Ok, I want to leave the site but can't get anyone to cancel my paid membership.

[IRuleMeParticipant]

BachelorForLife wrote:

El C~~~o Punto wrote:

So… You deduced this all by being here for a whopping 16 days?

Anyone can take a look in The Litter Box.

You had access to the entire sections of the forum well before you joined. Well before you upgraded your account. Anyone can view the forums. You had an out then. Nobody forced you to join. And frankly, your complaints aren’t even valid arguments.

1. Too much censorship and banning of people that share the same ideas as famous Youtuber’s like Turd Flinging Monkey

I’ve noticed plenty of men on this website have been put in The Litter Box for saying the exact same s~~~ that Turd Flinging Monkey has said in regards to taking women’s rights away.

They say the exact same things about how we should as men, be in charge of women, but, when they say it, they’re banned and placed as a spectator. F~~~ that s~~~.

The vast majority of men choose not to even bother engaging with women. That’s the mass perception among MGTOW. And while there are men who could advocate putting women in their place, this site does NOT condone violence. So if that’s what you’re alluding to, then you’re more than welcome to GTFO.

2. Too many men (Including Keymaster) have supported Tom Lekyis in past posts, even though he’s a Hillary Clinton supporter while at the same time calling other members “tuna” for saying the exact same things Tom Leykis has said about Trump supporters and Trump himself. Everyone else gets the ban hammer when they do this, but when Tom Leykis does this, almost no one demonizes him for it. Even if they do demonize him for it, he’s still not called a tuna like other members have done to new members saying the exact same s~~~.

Leykis is a PUA, who advocates pumping and dumping, and not living with or marrying women. Which connects with a number of men on here. Which is why guys liked him. He lost a lot of respect and listeners by supporting Hillary and denouncing MGTOW. The reason some guys get called tuna, is because an overwhelming majority of men here are conservative. Not liberal. But ask It’sallbs if he’s been banned. Sure he gets s~~~ from guys, but he’s not a Trump supporter. He’s still here.

3. I don’t want to be on a website with active mods. This is exactly the reason I’m not on MGTOWHQ. Too many active moderators there are so f~~~ing paranoid about new members it’s pathetic. Since I read a recent post that Keymaster is going to start doing this with his website, I don’t want to be a member here anymore.

Keymaster can’t be on here all the time. And frankly, you’ve seen what happens when the s~~~ show runs wild. But if you think that justifies losing quality posters, then you’re a numbskull. We’ve already lost a number of good posters because of f~~~heads. If we allow the f~~~heads to run wild, then Keymaster may as well shut this s~~~ down now.

4. I hate that as a new member I have to filter my speech until my reputation is grown on this website, but if I said and did some of the exact same s~~~ other members on this website have said and done in the past, I’d be placed in The Litter Box where as, they’d get upvoted for it and even have their posts stickied.

I don’t filter my speech for anyone; and that includes other MGTOWS.

When other active moderators get placed into a forum, that forum, no matter how good intention, becomes worse than Youtube, T~~~ter, or even Facebook in terms of censorship. Too many moderators get used to the power and it goes to their f~~~ing heads. This is exactly why I only stick to Youtube and maybe even T~~~ter for the most part.

How and where did you deduce this? Who said anything about filtering speech? If you’re not being a site disruption, threatening violence, or posting gore, what is there to censor? You’re allowed to have an opinion that differs from other people. Don’t mean you’re gonna be popular. But this isn’t a popularity contest. I’ve ruffled a few feathers in the past myself. So has Old Bill. And others.

If you want to leave, that’s your choice. Do what you want. I’m not your parent. But I think the fact that you are complaining about stuff that you had a chance to witness before you participated on this site is ridiculous.

[bladeParticipant]

Doc wrote:

Bachelor – don’t bail.

There are many of us who listen to positive criticism and what can be done to accommodate your comments.

Maybe nothing can be done but on the other hand maybe others feel like you.

The problem is that recently here there has been a surge of people joining who are clearly female and also men who are intientionally being antagonistic.

The way people have responded hasn’t always been the best way but it has taught us that we need to adapt and move with the trend.

Yes it’s a shame that it’s reached a point where we have to moderate but it’s still only an idea.

It’s a shame you feel you need to watch what you say but trust me you really don’t have to.

We can pretty much say anything as long as it’s not threatening or illegal.

But there is a huge difference in what we say and how we say it.

I am all for us having debates and arguments about anything. And be critical of each other.
There is a difference between crirital and offensive.

Stick around – raise your concerns. Get to know people. Help us make the place a lot of us want it to be.

OldBill wrote:

460 up votes in 16 days? I thought you were doing rather well, Bachelor.

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[AwakenedParticipant 35203]

Not Every Site is for Everyone.

They Come, and They Go.

Hope ya find YOUR Greener Pastures.

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[It’sallbsParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Doc wrote:

But there is a huge difference in what we say and how we say it.

You can say almost anything in life and get away with it, if you just know how to say it right!

A life skill so many miss.

Example.

You need to

Vs

Mabey you should.

Yep a diplomat can call someone a cnt without offending them.

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[KeymasterKeymaster]

BachelorForLife wrote:

Thanks in advanced.

It’s already done and confirmed and I even refunded you just now. See my previous post above ^^^ (or on the previous page)

BachelorForLife wrote:

There’s a few reasons for this:

1. Too much censorship and banning of people that share the same ideas as famous Youtuber’s like Turd Flinging Monkey I’ve noticed plenty of men on this website have been put in The Litter Box for saying the exact same s~~~ that Turd Flinging Monkey has said in regards to taking women’s rights away.

Why would you want to “take women’s rights away”?
How about boosting their RESPONSIBILITIES instead?

Big difference.

Rights are pointless without responsibilities. RIGHT? So a better solution is not to “take women’s rights away”…. but rather to hold them to proper standards. With all the shreiking about “women’s rights” they do, they go curiously quiet when you talk about RESPONSIBILITIES. Fascinating isn’t it.

Less chatter about “rights” and more about RESPONSIBILITIES.
Then watch what happens.

BachelorForLife wrote:

They say the exact same things about how we should as men, be in charge of women, but, when they say it, they’re banned and placed as a spectator. F~~~ that s~~~.

THere’s a REASON for that.

This is “men going their own way”.
Not “controlling-women-dot-com”.

You want to be in charge of women? Tie them to the kitchen sink? Teach them their place? Then this may not be the place for you. It’s a very different mindset. It’s actually WOMEN who are the control freaks who want to dominate and control you in a personal relationship / marriage.

MGTOW has exploded in the current culture —>> because F~~~ THAT s~~~.
They are all f~~~ing INSANE.

BachelorForLife wrote:

2. Too many men (Including Keymaster) have supported Tom Lekyis in past posts, even though he’s a Hillary Clinton supporter while at the same time calling other members “tuna” for saying the exact same things Tom Leykis has said about Trump supporters and Trump himself. Everyone else gets the ban hammer when they do this, but when Tom Leykis does this, almost no one demonizes him for it. Even if they do demonize him for it, he’s still not called a tuna like other members have done to new members saying the exact same s~~~.

I actually appeared on the Turd Flinging Monkey show on this topic. You will have your answer when you go hear it. I was very surprised to learn of Tom’s political stance – and even said so on the TFM show. I’m actually otherwise indifferent to Tom’s political stance – and have admired him for his contribution in the best interests of men – but LISTEN TO THE SHOW and you will understand I am not even politically inclined where Tom Leykis is concerned.

BachelorForLife wrote:

3. I don’t want to be on a website with active mods. This is exactly the reason I’m not on MGTOWHQ. Too many active moderators there are so f~~~ing paranoid about new members it’s pathetic. Since I read a recent post that Keymaster is going to start doing this with his website, I don’t want to be a member here anymore.

OK STOP. There has been almost ZERO moderation – especially in recent days. You will see FAR less moderation here than ANYWHERE else. Relax. We’re not “making more people moderators”. Just giving an extended priv to be able to “pause” a troublesome member when no admin is available.

BachelorForLife wrote:

4. I hate that as a new member I have to filter my speech until my reputation is grown on this website, but if I said and did some of the exact same s~~~ other members on this website have said and done in the past, I’d be placed in The Litter Box where as, they’d get upvoted for it and even have their posts stickied.

When was the last time a thread was thrown in the litter box? Last MONTH?

You don’t have to “filter” anything. But in the litter box, there are MANY who were plants sent here (like from the f~~~ing BBC ) to try and demonize MGTOW and make us look like a bunch of control freaks who want to tie women to the kitchen sink , show them their place, control them and “take away their rights”.

NO.

MGTOW.COM is nothing of the sort.
Wrong forums for that and we are HAPPY to disappoint you.

BachelorForLife wrote:

Members don’t have control over whether or not they can cancel their paid membership. They have to keep constantly and constantly emailing the website owners to get it canceled if they want it canceled. What other website has a system set up this way? It’s f~~~ing stupid to say the least.

Already explained in an FYI above ^^^^^ thats’ because of the confusion between “Cancel” requests and “delete” requests. So we are spelling it out so that admin doesn’t have to email and ask and confirm. Members will be able to request EITHER themselves. When they do, we will just cancel or delete and they will have 2 opportunities to say “YES I AM SURE” before we do.

This will be re-implemented with CRYSTAL CLEAR instructions as soon as possible.
Don’t worry. We’re on it.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[IRuleMeParticipant]

OldBill wrote:

460 up votes in 16 days? I thought you were doing rather well, Bachelor.

Esp since, as is the case with MOST members, he was welcomed with open arms.

Tazz wrote:

I agree with bachelor on some things. I dont harbor any ill will towards MGTOW and im really grateful for finding this site and im going to continue to get on here and learn as much as i can. But im good on having a account and a voice here. Dont need a MGTOW account to be a MGTOW feel me? Keymaster can you delete my account when you have a chance please? I understand you got alotta s~~~ to do so whenever you get a chance. Thanks bruh

Keymaster isn’t going to be deleting your account. If you don’t want to be here, ask to be put in spectator mode, or log off and don’t come back. Keymaster already “deleted” someone once. Had to go through and delete every thread they made, every reply… He’s not wasting hours of his life doing that. You can log off and stay gone. Has the same effect.

[It’sallbsParticipant]

Let him go h’es put the htread up to attention seek if he has emailed keymaster

Here’s a banger of a tune anyway.

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[KeymasterKeymaster]

@crankganker

Only saw a few posts from you, but would like to take a moment to welcome you properly. Haven’t had a chance so far. A pleasure.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[DocParticipant]

Exactly Guys.
The whole point is to listen to views that oppose our own and find the common ground.

Thesis – a persons argument or view or evidence

Antithesis – an opponents view, argument etc

SYNTHESIS – The strengths of both arguments. Ditch the evidence that fails. Accept the evidence that strengths. Move on to next thesis.

Through this process we learn and grow.

A fool listens to only what they already believes.
A wise man seeks the opposite of what he believes.
If his views are shot down he learns from the opposing view. If his views are not then he teaches someone else. This process brings learning for teacher and ‘student’alike.

F~~~ man. Look at how much we could learn together if we could just stay on point and stop insulting everybody.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[TazzParticipant 165]

There isnt a account deactivation thing in profile settings or something?

Peace of mind is more important than pussy in mind

[It’sallbsParticipant]

Stop pandering to attention seekers.

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[Anonymous 18]

BachelorForLife wrote:

4. I hate that as a new member I have to filter my speech until my reputation is grown on this website, but if I said and did some of the exact same s~~~ other members on this website have said and done in the past, I’d be placed in The Litter Box where as, they’d get upvoted for it and even have their posts stickied.

Brother like you we all started without much fanfare.

I have always spoken my mind and at times locked horns with other members here.

I’d like to take the opportunity to apologize if that has been your experience.

Certain issues will always hit a nerve. Others will be ignored.

Most of what you say in earnest will get attention- good or bad. But it’s upto you to defend your stance instead of feeling we are attacking you as a person.

I create threads often with the awareness that it won’t get much attention. But I come here to share what I see and how I perceive things to be.

I hope members would take heed to your observation and be more welcoming.

Also I hope you have had some pearls you would take away from your stay.

Best wishes.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Tazz wrote:

There isnt a account deactivation thing in profile settings or something?

Please read my previous posts on that. I was very clear we are bringing it back. There was some confusion between “cancel” and “delete” requests so we are adding a more detailed explanation and “Yes I AM SURE” options so we don’t have to email them and ask “Are you sure”?

Too many time, some have sent a removal request only to say shortly after “I DIDN’T MEAN IT!!” so we’re making watertight. When they hit “YES I AM SURE” there will be no more question.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[It’sallbsParticipant]

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[TazzParticipant 165]

Alright thanks KM. Much respect to you and the whole MGTOW community

Peace of mind is more important than pussy in mind

[KevinStylesParticipant 2580]

wait… there’s a paid membership?

[ChristopherParticipant 2478]

It’sallbs wrote:

Here’s a banger of a tune anyway.

Inspirals ! havent played them in years …Saw a gig back in the day they were good live ! heres one with with Mark E smith

Feminism was funded by bankers/politicians to create more taxpayers. MGTOW IS FREEDOM https://archive.org/details/mgtowisfreedomblurayready

[Prophet MicahParticipant 1972]

Call your bank and claim the card you used to subscribe to the site was stolen.

I hope you still lurk the site though. I’ve been appreciating your input.

No Wife - No Strife

[OneLaneOnlyPlsParticipant 1747]

BachelorForLife wrote:

I just need Keymaster or another admin to cancel my paid membership.

Fk outa here.

Next time you throw the toys out of the pram, just write the quoted line above.

I listen to Leykis often, and agree with a lot of what he says, but not all. It would be hard to agree with ALL another person thinks. That is part of GOING YOUR OWN WAY. Doesn’t mean I blast others here for not agreeing with this and that.

For example, I no longer pump n’ dump, yet others here continue to do so. I respect their decision. Don’t come on here blasting others for not agreeing entirely with you.

And btw…. you having a rant ‘on you way out’, is no better than Balaam (or any other female for that matter), when they just want to fling monkey p00.

Good riddance.

[It’sallbsParticipant]

Yeah funnily enough I’ve been listeningt o ligtning seeds if you listen to teh lyrics of life of riely and sugar coated iceberg and understand them its sort of MGTOWIsh in a way

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

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