Of what benefit is nationalism, ethnic centrism, to going MGTOW?

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

If you are a man seeking to go his own way, who is avoiding marriage, etc… exactly what the hell does nationalism, or ethnic centrism have for benefit to you doing this?

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Anonymous 14]

Nationalism seeks to protect your interests as well as the interests of those around you, good housekeeping in a sense. Ethnic centrism has nothing to do with it. This is evidenced by the fact that there are Nationalists of every race in America, and most of them are not bigots.

Now this is not to say that I believe that my government protects my interests no matter who is in office, this is all just in theory really.

[HydroParticipant 164]

Nationalism is laws and policy that are in the best interest of the citizens and main street USA, and not multinational corporations, wall street, international banks, the chamber of commerce and their lobbyists.

Some specifics include enforcing laws on illegal immigration, limiting legal immigration, enforcing election integrity, renegotiating unfavorable trade agreements, and promoting domestic manufacturing and energy development.

Stopping the illegal alien welfare moochers, stopping citizens from being disenfranchised and replaced at the voting booth by illegal invaders, and counteracting the totalitarian marxist s~~~storm the leftards would implement are all benefits to MGTOW as I see it.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Me not care.

Im nuke entusiast, death worshiper and identify as an multiracial attack helicopter.

Just f~~~ing around bro, I’m an nomad, I got no country, no one ever did s~~~ for me, so I don’t owe s~~~ to anyone.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[Old BuckParticipant 3596]

I am very proud of the country I live in. I can speak my mind, as on this forum or in public, and not have the gestapo knocking down my door.

I may not agree with or give a s~~~ about 99% of the assholes that live here, but it still is the best country on earth to live.

If you don’t like this country, f~~~ off and leave. I heard North Korea needs more cannon fodder.

As for the ethnic bulls~~~, I don’t care what your skin color is or where your parents came from. If you are an arrogant f~~~, you will be eating my beer bottle. NO F~~~ GIVEN!

Don't chase tail. Turn yours around, walk away, and live free!

[narrow road travelerParticipant 1680]

MGTOW is individualistic in nature. So many communal centric natured arguments won’t align with a MGHOW.

Men by nature are also tribal. Individually many of us want to contribute to a healthy tribe.

That’s why team sports are a part of every male culture. Men in a large civilization rooting for a relatively small group of male athletes is a part of our innate tribalness.

An ethnic or nationalist manipulator will exploit inherent tribal tendencies in men. Solely to enrich themselves and get a wider variety of vagina. This scenario has been repeated for millennia. So every individual man has to think about the tribe he may be apart of. Or he’ll definitely be exploited no matter what label is being used to justify it.

The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. --Sun Tsu

[TheWolfSheepFearSpectator 459]

To me mgtow is the band aid that keeps my wounds from getting infected and forcing a doctor to chop off my arm. It is not a cure but rather a reaction to our completely sexist and f~~~ed system. So naturally I support nationalism and “tradcon” behavior. But not neo cons who claim to be conservative yet support feminism every step of the way. F~~~ that s~~~. I believe in the old school where men have the final say in the house and in politics. Society will cease to exist unless we have normal natural roles that are fulfilled. But if the masses want to f~~~ up society to the point it crashes and burns than fine, f~~~ um all. They want to live with lies and delusions? OK go for it. I believe in God so I know I’ll find a better place.

Please God smite the wicked now

[surfdude12Participant 4103]

Nationalism is ideologically opposed to global socialism and global socialism is ideologically aligned with feminism since global socialism favors “gender equality”

[AlmostWonderfulParticipant 63]

The two aren’t always connected. You’re trying to draw lines where they don’t belong here. I don’t think being nationalistic or an “ethnic centrist” has a lot to do with the primary reasons the site was started. This is the political corner so those discussions take place. Not everyone on the site posts here.

[anonymousyamParticipant 4605]

I am against nationalism (at least for my own life in my current time) as nationalism promotes the interest of the state over the individual. Nationalism will have you blown to pieces in the name of being a patriot or a hero in some far away country. Nationalism will have you toil and die for the country and in specific cases nationalism (specifically white) will have to throw away your personal mission and only goals, dreams, hopes and aspirations you may have in hopes of preserving the race or making more babies for the race (presumably inside of marriage as not being married is what darkies do).

The whole tribal identity thing is exploited by nationalists for their own personal gains as in the end we are apes who are tribalistic by nature.

So in the end i have to be against nationalism as what benefit does toiling and dying for the so called race or nation do for me? it does not matter to be if my name is on a wall somewhere as my personal mission will get me remembered far more then just being cannon fodder in a war (the thing with vets is if they die in war at most they are 1 cross in a field of thousands).

Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

AlmostWonderful wrote:

The two aren’t always connected. You’re trying to draw lines where they don’t belong here. I don’t think being nationalistic or an “ethnic centrist” has a lot to do with the primary reasons the site was started. This is the political corner so those discussions take place. Not everyone on the site posts here.

I see nationalism, or any sort of collectivist mindset can cause individuals to give up their principles in the name of a “greater good”. That is why I asked here about this. Why is it essential many hold the same views as I do, in order for myself to do anything? So long as they don’t get in my way, what do I care? What I see with this here is individuals who presume that having people with similar attributes be in total accord, undermines autonomy.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[AlmostWonderfulParticipant 63]

IGMOW…I’ve never tried to and haven’t seen anyone here try to tell you it is essential you hold the same views they do in order for you to “do anything”. That’s just a straw man. I didn’t read all the posts, I guess it’s possible. If people here are trying to presume or assume you have the same views they do, I’m not one of them. I like different opinions and that’s what makes the world go around. I don’t chat on here just to situate myself inside of an echo chamber. What I do see though, is that many of the members here share a sense of brotherhood. We try and offer each other a support system. So often, as opposed to totally and just outright disagreeing with one another, we’ll offer a different perspective on something or a tidbit of advice, just drop a small dime, etc.

[Frank V.Participant 2445]

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

If you are a man seeking to go his own way, who is avoiding marriage, etc… exactly what the hell does nationalism, or ethnic centrism have for benefit to you doing this?

None, not one single bit. And since both often are traditionalist, a lot of that ends up trying to make the plantation look good again.

No thanks, I was born free and plan to stay that way.

Frank V.

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