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I have been thinking about different career paths, and have tried to narrow it down to a few. Was thinking of going into construction, but not sure if I’m a good fit and many say it’s hard on the body. Already have bad knees…
Anyway, I already have a lab tech diploma although not working in this field. So I thought why not nursing because well men do that too. But once again this is a female dominated field and I will be on a radar for harassment and discrimination if I decide to go into this field.
I’m at a point in my life where I can’t just do what I like doing. Although the medical field is attractive career choice, my thoughts are that I might be burying myself if I’m surrounded by females most of the time.
And trust me I wouldn’t be going into this field because of female attention or wanting to get a wife or gf. In fact I would rather avoid them. So what are you thoughts about this? Is it worthwhile?
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Anonymous25As a nurse you would be working with majority women. The bitchiness would put me off, I try find work with as few women as possible. An alternative may be something like a paramedic, possibly more men in that.
As a nurse you would be working with majority women. The bitchiness would put me off, I try find work with as few women as possible. An alternative may be something like a paramedic, possibly more men in that.
The good side of being a medic is that yes you most likely work with another men. Thing is, with nursing there are more doors that open up such as anesthesia assistant and better pay too.
Are there any male nurses on here to confirm they deal with a lot of feminazis in their workplace? My guess is that if in a regular job they never STFU, then it would be HELL in nursing. But I would just have to ignore that part and deal with it like a man. F~~~ em, they wanted equality so they shouldn’t bitch about men taking over their jobs. Besides men make more than female nurses.
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Anonymous42The only “nursing” I would do is strictly from the outside in, run in tag one and get the f~~~ out! Insurance companies too! In and out, don’t hang around too long! Believe me, I know the rules to any hen house, you can get pecked to death in a place like that! Why the f~~~ would you want to work there?
How are you going to handle Dr C~~~ (just graduated from C~~~versity) pecking on you for not changing the bedpan fast enough? If it were me I’d be fired the first day. In and out, that’s enemy entrenched territory!
Sadly, in most of healthcare you’re going to be surrounded by women. They dominate the HR hiring positions as well. If you are interested in a healthcare career, I would recommend something in the rehab field [PT, PTA, Athletic Trainer, etc], although most of the chicks in those fields are dykes, with all of the courtesies that come with that particular dysfunction.
If you really want to minimize your contact with the female, then take up garbage collecting or homelessness [for equality’s sake].
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Bear in mind, any patient looking to sue the hospital system will zero in on you for alleged abuse. Think on it, when the police show up at the house, the whimyn could be untouched and the man have a knife sticking out of his chest. Who gets arrested in the back of the ambulance?
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Bear in mind, any patient looking to sue the hospital system will zero in on you for alleged abuse. Think on it, when the police show up at the house, the whimyn could be untouched and the man have a knife sticking out of his chest. Who gets arrested in the back of the ambulance?
True that. They will claim that a man tried to stab a wife, but the knife ricochet from her into his chest.
Come to think about this, can they actually claim that you tried taking your own life away and therefore you are guilty of attempted murder?
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Physcans assitant.
Yes, I was going to say Anesthesia ass-istant. This is why nursing is the only route towards that. A medic would not be able to do that.
But I mean would MGTOW disapprove of this decision for a Red piller to go into nursing? Like I said, it’s not for the chicks but more for making a decent living. I’m tired up and above my ears of slave labor and min wage jobs. We need to take over nursing, because hey MEN were and are actually very competent nurses.
Men in Nursing:
A Historical Time LineThe world’s first nursing school founded in India about 250 B.C. Only men were considered “pure” enough to become nurses.
Ancient Rome
The term “nosocomial” meaning “hospital acquired” stems from the nosocomi, the men whom provided nursing care in ancient Rome.
Parabolani
In 300 A.D., a group of men, the Parabolani, started a hospital providing nursing care during the Black Plague epidemic.
Early Religious Orders
St. Benedict founded the Benedictine nursing order, while St. Alexis was in the fifth century. Military, religious and lay orders of men including the Knights Hospitalers, the Teutonic Knights, the Knights of St. Lazarus and the Hospital Brothers of St. Anthony provided nursing care during the Middle Ages.
The Alexians
The Alexian Brothers began as informal groups of laymen about 1300 A.D., providing nursing care for the poor.
St. John Of God And St. Camillius
St. John of God (1495-1550) devoted his life to serving the ill and mistreated and was canonized in 1690. St. Camillius (1510-1614) is credited with developing the first field ambulance. He was canonized in 1746. The symbol of his order, the red cross, remains the primary symbol of health care. In 1930, St. Camillius and St. John of God were named co-patron saints of nursing.
First American Nurse
Seventy years before the Pilgrims landed on Plymouth Rock, Friar Juan de Mena was shipwrecked off the south Texas coast. He is the first identified nurse in what was to become the U.S.
Crimean War
The Crimean War started in 1853. A biographer of Florence Nightingale, regarded as the first modern female nurse, noted that male “orderlies” provided nursing care prior to and after Nightingale’s arrival at the Crimean front.
Jean Henry Dunant
In 1859, Dunant provided nursing care after the Battle of Solferino. He was helped found the International Red Cross and the Geneva Convention. He won the first Nobel Peace Prize in 1901.
U.S. Civil War
During the U.S. Civil War, both sides had military men serving as nurses. Men were the majority of the front line nurses while female nurses were typically restricted to general hospitals in the major cities.
Post Civil War
Both the Crimean War and the U. S. Civil War decimated the male population. Without men to help with the labor, many women were unable to continue farming and moved to cities and became “matrons” in military hospitals. The military continued to primarily use men as nurses.
The Alexian Brothers In The U.S.
In 1866, the Alexians built their first hospital in Chicago, Illinois and in 1869, opened a second hospital in St. Louis, Missouri. Today their work continues around the world.
St. John of God and St. Camillius
In 1898 the U.S. fought a brief war with Spain. The Daughters of the American Revolution recruited contract female physicians and nurses during the war.
Nursing Schools For Men
The Mills School for Nursing and St. Vincent’s Hospital School for Men were founded in New York in 1888. The Pennsylvania Hospital opened a school for female nurses in 1914 and simultaneously opened a separate men’s nursing school.
Army Nurse Corps
In 1901, the Army Nurse Corps was formed. Only women could serve as nurses and military nursing changed from being predominately male to exclusively female.
World War I And World War II
During World War I and World War II there were nursing shortages and women were given tuition, room, board, uniforms and a stipend to attend nursing school, but were not required to enter the service.
Two Men
In a time when few men were practicing nursing in the U.S., two men worked to promote men in nursing. Leroy N. Craig, superintendent of the Pennsylvania Hospital men’s nursing school, fought for the rights of men to participate in the American Nurses Association. Nurse Luther Christman volunteered to serve on the front, if he could serve as a nurse. Christman was turned down for combat duty as a nurse by the U.S. Surgeon General.
Men Again Serve As Military Nurses
Not until 1955, after the Korean War, were men again permitted to serve as military nurses. During the intervening decades men who were registered nurses enlisted or drafted, but were not assigned as nurses.
Nursing Schools Admit Men
Men were forbidden to attend some state-supported nursing schools until 1982.
American Assembly For Men In Nursing
The American Assembly For Men in Nursing, organized in 1971, supports and promotes men in American nursing. Originally named the National Male Nurse Association, the organization became the American Assembly For Men in Nursing in 1980. Source: Bruce Wilson, Ph.D., RN, associate professor at the University of Texas-Pan American in Edinburg, Texas, and a former board member of the American Assembly For Men in Nursing.Two thousand years ago, nursing school was for men only.
Only men were considered “pure” enough to enter what is thought to be the world’s first nursing school, which was founded in India about 250 B.C., according to Bruce Wilson, Ph.D., RN, and associate professor at the University of Texas-Pan American in Edinburg, Texas.
For the next two millennia, nursing remained male-dominated. It took warfare in the 19th and 20th centuries to transform nursing from being considered a man’s job to a women’s profession.
One of the biggest shifts in the profession came in 1901 when the military nursing corps was reorganized.
Men were no longer allowed to serve as nurses, furthering the process of the feminization of nursing, said Wilson, who is also the manager of American Assembly For Men in Nursing’s Web site.
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If you want to avoid the sloots as much as possible, try finding something that is hard labor, dirty, or requires practical licensure. While nursing may check those boxes, I think it is mainly the idealization of whimyn as nuturers that draw them to the field.
Plumbing, masonry, welding, auto body etc do not hold the same attraction to women. If the trades do not hold your interest, what about running a supply house?
I can’t think of the last time I saw a weemin in a welding supply shop…
Untamed wrote: Quit complaining and Go Your Own Way in whatever manner suits you best.
, but not sure if I’m a good fit and many say it’s hard on the body. Already have bad knees…
Nursing is very hard on the knees, walking all day, standing on concrete based floors, bending, lifting, etc. Lab Techs are hard on the knees for similar reasons as well… at least at the hospitals I’ve worked at.
No longer can we walk away, we must run. Remove the motive power.
I knew this nurse a while back before I became full MGTOW and we had a FWB thing going on.
She would tell me stories of the pettiness,gossip,catty f~~~ing behaviour of her fellow co-workers that would make my head spin!
One thing she did tell me that stuck was if I ever went into emergency and knew what some of those doctors and nurses were ‘on’ I’d turn right around and walk out!
Apparently the TV show ‘House’ was’t too far from reality,makes you think of all the mis diagnosis and
other screw ups,thats why now I do my own research and always get a second opinion.Getting back to your question, why not a Paramedic in an ambulance?
Work with a small team,in and out of the hospital quick.
not much time for office politics.Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!
I just graduated from nursing school and will be taking my state boards next month. The good thing about nursing is that it is such a broad field to get into. For example, I have already made connections to get into dialysis nursing. I will be pretty much on my own when I am doing my job with my patients and will have little to no interactions with the nurses on the floor based from what I’ve seen from my clinical rotations. I’ll come back to this thread once I’m fully in to give a status update.
If it has tits or tires, you know you're going to have problems.
Have a buddy that’s a nurse. He likes the money but hates all the f~~~ing drama. It’s not just about getting s~~~ done, it’s a bunch of office politics and gossip. You can’t focus on your work you have to focus on making Cindy happy by telling her how good her hair looks, even though she has had the same haircut for 3 years. You have to hear that kind of s~~~, and women are too preoccupied with talking to do their f~~~ing job.
As a man, expect to be picking up the slack because these women just won’t f~~~ing do it. They will EXPECT favors from you, taking over their shifts, working through lunches so they can talk, and they want you to take sides the talking even if you don’t give a f~~~. At least that’s what he tells me.
He’s considered going into other fields, but once you’re geared towards nursing, it can be tough. Maybe a veterinarian? I know they don’t make as much money unless you do exotic animals and can find a rich client. EMS might also be a good choice, but I also hear lower pay.
Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.
As a man, expect to be picking up the slack because these women just won’t f~~~ing do it.
^This.
F~~~ it. Yall right about this. Thinking about having to deal with all this bitchness..and WC you are right on all these points.
But the plan I had in mind was to bear the crap for 1-2 years and go to the Anesthesia program. But from what I see there’s other different interesting programs in the field of medicine.
But no matter how you look at it, there are women in almost in every field now. They now give free tuition for them in construction schools to lure them in and make our lives living hell. And vice versa. they lure men in, in nursing to do the same lol.
But considering how much they are getting paid, is it really back breaking work?
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I would NOT recommend the nursing profession to either men or women because of the lack of job security, reasonable working conditions, respect on the job, and the lack of professional growth associated with the same. Further, nursing is a female, feminist, and working class profession which routinely discriminates against men in education and employment without restraint from the US Courts, the laws as promulgated by the State and National legislatures, the State and National executive branches, and other formal and informal means.
Your professional status, self respect, and long term financial security will be significantly denigrated,if, as a man, you enter nursing.
The nursing profession generally demands that male nurses support feminist ideology (Texas Woman’s University nursing school specifically requires that all nursing students take and pass a course in women’s studies) and tends to specifically discriminate against men, especially gentlemen, who exhibit the manly virtues (such discrimination is acknowledged by many MRAs).
The following is the URL of an excellent and informative YouTube presentation by a male R.N. (not me) entitled “Male Gender Bias in the Nursing Profession”:I’m going to have to agree with MarcusAurelius2 on this. The video linked is priceless. Any man considering the field of nursing should spend the time to watch the video. I found myself agreeing with just about everything he said.
In my journey, I have worked as a nursing assistant at 3 different pediatric hospitals. In the beginning, I thought that I wanted to be a nurse. As time passed, I realized that I could never continue on that path.
As the only man on the unit, I was routinely requested to assist in moving, lifting, or turning any large patient, whether I was assigned to the patient or not. In addition, I was assigned to sit with any psych-violent or suicidal patients for an entire 12 hour shift.
During normal shifts I spent my time alone at an empty workstation filling out patient charts on the computer. The c~~~s spent all of their free time on Facebook, talking about weddings, babies, or whatever.
I learned just how biased the nursing industry is. If you want a job with no camaraderie, having bitches as bosses, and co-workers that ignore you until they need your physical strength, then nursing might be just for you!
I had no problem with patients or their families. I enjoyed that part of the job. What surprised me was how heartless my co-workers were. I had always thought that women were supposed to be nurturing. When I worked on the cancer floor, I learned that was not the case at all. They were p~~~ed that a kid/family would bother them with pain medication requests. That was interrupting their precious Facebook time.
All in all, I met so many female nurses in their 20’s that were already tired of working. They dreaded coming to work each shift. I found that to be odd. In my previous work (paid firefighter), I NEVER dreaded coming to work.
In conclusion, the gender bias is REAL. I did not have a good experience as a nurse assistant and I’m thankful that I didn’t waste my time or money on nursing school. I would have hated being a nurse. Of course, your mileage may vary. Good Luck!
I’m going to have to agree with MarcusAurelius2 on this. The video linked is priceless. Any man considering the field of nursing should spend the time to watch the video. I found myself agreeing with just about everything he said.
In my journey, I have worked as a nursing assistant at 3 different pediatric hospitals. In the beginning, I thought that I wanted to be a nurse. As time passed, I realized that I could never continue on that path.
As the only man on the unit, I was routinely requested to assist in moving, lifting, or turning any large patient, whether I was assigned to the patient or not. In addition, I was assigned to sit with any psych-violent or suicidal patients for an entire 12 hour shift.
During normal shifts I spent my time alone at an empty workstation filling out patient charts on the computer. The c~~~s spent all of their free time on Facebook, talking about weddings, babies, or whatever.
I learned just how biased the nursing industry is. If you want a job with no camaraderie, having bitches as bosses, and co-workers that ignore you until they need your physical strength, then nursing might be just for you!
I had no problem with patients or their families. I enjoyed that part of the job. What surprised me was how heartless my co-workers were. I had always thought that women were supposed to be nurturing. When I worked on the cancer floor, I learned that was not the case at all. They were p~~~ed that a kid/family would bother them with pain medication requests. That was interrupting their precious Facebook time.
All in all, I met so many female nurses in their 20’s that were already tired of working. They dreaded coming to work each shift. I found that to be odd. In my previous work (paid firefighter), I NEVER dreaded coming to work.
In conclusion, the gender bias is REAL. I did not have a good experience as a nurse assistant and I’m thankful that I didn’t waste my time or money on nursing school. I would have hated being a nurse. Of course, your mileage may vary. Good Luck!
Well that seems to re-affirm the stories I keep reading on other sites too. To think that women can be heart-less seems to be far fetched, but it’s not.
But what happens if you decline their request of help? I mean can you say that you are being discriminated against, if they say that they need a MAN for physical labor favors?
I mean how the F~~~ did they do that by themselves when there were no men in nursing?But the replies here are pretty much enough for me to sway me away from this field. I would dread working with women all day long. Plus you probably have to clean poop, which is not entirely my cup of coffee.
However I look at my state of life right now and can’t stop thinking how f~~~ed my life is. Being a security guard is a lonely and worthless job, much lower paid that most professional jobs and I’m miserable all the time. I know I won’t be able to afford even a small house on my salary. Not even talking about survival…
It’s incredible how feminists demanded male dominated jobs-CEOs, Management and so on, but worked hard to keep men from taking over their only niche.
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Hi Russky. I am a Nurse. I can tell you that working in Nursing for me has been a good move for the most part. The money is good and it is very satisfying. But be ready for female double standards, emotional outbursts, attitude and s~~~ tests.
S~~~ tests will start in nursing school. Usually from female nursing instructors and nurses who have an inflated sense of self for some reason. I remember one clinical instructor who would be outright hostile with me. She used to talk to the female students about how her best friend is “Miss Andry” I knew what this meant but it was apparent she thought I was too stupid to understand this. Another instructor looked me in the eyes and told me only women belong in nursing. She obviously favored the female students. Another female instructor made a sexist comment during lecture. Some of the women thought the comment was great and applauded. I complained to the chairwoman of the nursing program about thee things. She was receptive to my concerns and told me she would take care of it because its sexual harassment. All I wanted was to learn the material and be in a class without hearing sexist comments. Since all the faculty were women, I expected nothing to happen, but the comments did cease.
The female students were somewhat friendly with me and a few of them became my friends. But for the most part they just tolerate you. While on clinicals some of the female staff members in the hospitals were outright hostile with me. I kept my mouth shut and just kept going forward out of fear of risking my nursing career.
Long story short, there will be women in the field who will treat you like s~~~ when you first meet them, or what I like to call s~~~ test you.
After this they seem to accept your presence and things can move forward. After working there for a while, the s~~~ tests have stopped but I still have to deal with unreasonable attitude and just plain nonsense with them. Standing up for yourself seems to be the cardinal sin and this results in a few female staff members giving me the silent treatment. Which is a win-win for me.You may also be given the more difficult and dangerous assignments. These include difficult patients who the women say “a male should have this patient”. The reasons are usually because the patient is combative, assaultive or what women like say “inappropriate” which means they say things that make the women feel uncomfortable. If you work in healthcare, you will be called names and mistreated by patients who are sick. But for women, this does not seem to apply to them and the men have to take the brunt of the abuse. One thing is for sure, you will be called to assist with turning/positioning patients who are obese or heavy. Expect that to start your first day of clinical rotation.
Not all if it is negative. Some of the women are good at what they do and are pleasant to work with. But, they are still women and you will see that they are hard wired socialists/SJWs no matter what their political leanings.
For some reason, men seem to move up the ladder sooner. I would go for it.
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