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Hi everybody!
In order to introduce myself, I should tell a little about what I think. Now, I’m quite young (19 yrs old) and, thankfully, have not endured harsh times with women while I was blue pill. But, I always liked to observe and think. And, due to those habits, I came to some conclusions:
1. AWALT. Now, I didn’t knew the acronym back then. But I understood the concept and could easily verify it. In essence, they expect a lot and go to great lengths to give very little in return. And they believe that they’re the salt of the Earth while men suck. F~~~ them.
2. Even a hypothetically good marriage would still be expensive and would leave very little space for the man self-improvement.
3. Feminism, especially today, is bulls~~~. See, my dad would always criticize and make fun of feminist propaganda, especially on TV. Sorry for thinking otherwise, dad: you were right all the time.
Fast forward a little and I find MGTOW. That’s the turning point. Finding thousands and thousands of men thinking like you change the perspective. You realize you’re not a weirdo. And you start to acknowledge the points that MGTOW make and realizing and verifying them in your life. Now I realize that I know a few dozen blue pill maginas. I feel really sorry and even a little sad for them.
So, I’d like to thank you guys for keeping such and excellent environment here on the forums and for being a great source of inspiration for me to actually improve myself as a man every day. I’m exercising more, I’m learning new skills, I’m eating better and, most importantly, I feel like a truly free man. Thank you guys!
P.S.: I’m Brazilian and English in not my first language. Sorry for any mistakes.
P.S.2: If there is anything you guys wish you knew when you were 19 and feel like sharing, I would really like to hear it. Wisdom is never enough.Welcome, respectively “oi”, spend 6 of the best weeks of my life in Santos, but have been to some other places, too.
Things i wish i knew, at 19? AWALT, women love to be treated like they deserve it, Men are far more supporting to each other and far less competativ than society wants to tell us, never ever change your view or sayings, just because society “demands” it.
Enjoy the ride! Learning MGTOW is like a rollercoaster, UPS and downs and all of it in rapid motion. But be assured you are about to have the time of your life!
"Him, who delights in solitude, is either a wild beast or a GOD!" - Aristotle (Aristot. Pol. 1.1253a) 1 Hom. Il. 9.63; the passage goes on: ἐστὶν ἐκεῖνος ι ὃς πολέμου ἔραται.
Welcome, respectively “oi”, spend 6 of the best weeks of my life in Santos, but have been to some other places, too.
Things i wish i knew, at 19? AWALT, women love to be treated like they deserve it, Men are far more supporting to each other and far less competativ than society wants to tell us, never ever change your view or sayings, just because society “demands” it.
Enjoy the ride! Learning MGTOW is like a rollercoaster, UPS and downs and all of it in rapid motion. But be assured you are about to have the time of your life!
Oi. Thanks for the welcome and for sharing your knowledge and, consequently, your experience.
The reason I ask for these extremely valuable pieces of wisdom is that I believe that they’re a very important part of what a man is. Maybe you’re watching TV with your dad or something. Then he look at the news and, due to those moments of inspiration that only men have, says :”That’s a dick move, son. Men are not supposed to do that”. And you end up carrying that for life, using it as a guideline on the most unlikely situations. For me, some of the best things come in seemingly small moments.
And the part about men being more supporting and less competitive speaks a lot to me, especially on the context i’m living on.Hi there GreatFrankie. It’s good to have you in here with us.
Now in case your dad might ever get split up from your mom (hopefully not though!) that could be your latest cue to introduce him to mgtow, too. I mean how cool could that be..? Father and son on this forum…
… the only trick there should be that your mom (for quite obvious reasons) should in the ideal world never ever become aware of this.
I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC
Hi there GreatFrankie. It’s good to have you in here with us.
Now in case your dad might ever get split up from your mom (hopefully not though!) that could be your latest cue to introduce him to mgtow, too. I mean how cool could that be..? Father and son on this forum…
Thanks for the reply and for the welcome, Ned Trent. It would be really cool having dad here, indeed. And I’m sure he would have a few truths to share about how hard marriage can get, too! The old man seems really happy with mom, though. 55 years on the blue pill… What i try to do, however, is to encourage him to at least keep improving himself, learning what he always wanted, buying some stuff for himself, being healthy.
What i try to do, however, is to encourage him to at least keep improving himself
Yeah alright do that by all means but like I said tread carefully in conjunction with your mom (or with any other woman you or your dad knows for that matter), since evidently both of you know what women are like once they do smell something slightly funny in any way imaginable…
I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC
Welcome!
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
Welcome!
Thanks!
Welcome sir. Your English is better than some of the English spoken here in America.
I am 48 years old and I wish I would have had a resource like this to consult when I was 19.
Enjoy the forums.Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.
Welcome young man. It’s good to have an international flavor to the forums. It cements the AWALT theory in to law.
Things to remember:
1. Women do NOT love men. Women love themselves, first, & they love being loved by men [or other women], second.
2. When listening to a woman, preface EVERYTHING she says with the following phrase: “Right now I feel like …” Note that this phrase gives them an “out option” for damn near everything. They will not say the phrase, but it’s implied.
3. At the first sign of bitchy, controlling, manipulative, disdainful, or otherwise inappropriate behavior — LEAVE and never return.
4. Truth is ALWAYS relative to a woman. “Truth” is whatever gets her what she wants. 1+1=9 sometimes.
5. Women are perpetual adolescents. They think and behave like teenagers constantly.
6. A married man learns a lot about ONE woman. A bachelor learns a lot about ALL women, and thus he remains a bachelor — because AWALT or EWALT [thanks TaxGuy].When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.
Anonymous54Welcome Frankie!
Show this to your Dad.He would want to see it.
Welcome sir. Your English is better than some of the English spoken here in America.
I am 48 years old and I wish I would have had a resource like this to consult when I was 19.
Enjoy the forums.Thanks. Having some knowledge of English, especially in the context in which I was raised, is very valuable.
Welcome young man. It’s good to have an international flavor to the forums. It cements the AWALT theory in to law.
Yes, indeed. It’s related to their biology (something that feminists keep trying to deny).
Also, thanks a lot for welcoming and sharing some wisdom. I’ll keep those 6 axioms in mind.Welcome Frankie!
Show this to your Dad.He would want to see it.
Yes, will do. Currently, I’m waiting for a more propitious occasion to do it. Thanks for the welcome!
Greetings GF,
It is always good when young fellows are open to the advice of other men. It also allows the more experienced and old timers to be able to share their experience/ wisdom.
As a young man, my mother ruined my relationship with my father. In fact, she still has my siblings fighting with each other.
Thankfully, my Dad and I have been great friends for the past thirty years. The healing occurred when I went through the same bull s~~~ he went through. Now we talk and get together often. He is now in his eighties.
One of the activities which helped our relationship was playing the music of our grandfathers. The Old Time music of the Anglo Sphere is simple and user friendly even though most of the acoustic instruments require training.
Here is an example:
My relationship with my son has been difficult. In his defense, there are a lot more temptations to f~~~ up the life of a young man now than there was for me.
My son’s choices is a painful topic. I was lucky to have custody of him for a few years as a teenager. He has profound creativity in an Alpha male consciousness, so I had to home school him. The feminists running the primary schools did not like him and he gave them hell. Thankfully, I live on a college campus in Chicago and we had access to several University’s facilities.
At first, I had a hard time teaching him English and the humanities, until he studied the PUA philosophies/ wisdom. MGTOW teachings were not available back then.
As he became older, he chose a more creative/ chaotic path that is too scary for me and we have had a strained relationship. His use of drugs/ alcohol is a big mistake. His application of PUA skills to manipulate/ swindle others is at odds with my values and our ancestral heritage.
Even though I am proud of him for many reasons, especially turning the tables on women, the things he does and places he goes makes my stomach turn.
My discipline, reliability, trustworthiness, and healthy mind/ body are the foundations that helped me rise to the top of the food chain in the trades. It is difficult for me to understand the value of the other paths that my son choses.
I have written about this and provided other tips in my MGTOW posts. You can read my or other MGTOW’s posts by finding the links in our profiles.
Here are some YouTube talks by Mike Rowe that brings up the truth about jobs and real success. He suggests great opportunities for men in today’s economy.
These videos will also help you to fight the foolish programming and guilt trips that were forced upon your generation:
What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?
Anonymous54Welcome sir. Your English is better than some of the English spoken here in America.
I heard that! Hah
Propitious.
Thank you Great Frankie. You have taught me a new word in English!!!
Greetings GF,
Thanks!
About your son, I wish I could give some advice or say something meaningful. Wish you strength and the best luck for your son.
About your father and carreer choices, what you said made me smile because it fits my reality really well. My father was, most of the time, away from me. It’s not his fault, as someone had to provide. However, and especially after I got into college for music production and creation, one thing that unite us is music. While I lean more towards the Classical side (not only Classical period, but common practice period and a little more), I always liked the blues. And so does dad. Listening and commenting about music with him is always a pleasure.
Now, “college for music production and creation” really doesn’t sound like a good idea. To be honest, I jumped in mostly by “passion”. Luckily, I realized what Mr. Rowe said and also found out that, with dedication, I can get good enough on it. Always analyzing new
opportunities, though!I heard that! Hah
Propitious.
Thank you Great Frankie. You have taught me a new word in English!!!
Glad I could help! Was struggling with finding the right word when “propitious” came to mind.
Welcome GF. You are amoungst friends. Spent a weekend in Santos during soccer world cup 2014. Great time. Look forward to hearing from you.
Peace is > piece.
Welcome bro. It’s always nice to see that someone discovered MGTOW at a young age.
I’m 22. When I was 19, I wish I was awake (had discovered the red pill), I wish I had more control of my life and I wish I wasn’t in a relations~~~.
My brother make you no follow sheeple o. Look them and Go Your Way.
Anonymous1Welcome brother, free yourself from the pussy scam.
Welcome GF. You are amoungst friends. Spent a weekend in Santos during soccer world cup 2014. Great time. Look forward to hearing from you.
Welcome bro. It’s always nice to see that someone discovered MGTOW at a young age.
I’m 22. When I was 19, I wish I was awake (had discovered the red pill), I wish I had more control of my life and I wish I wasn’t in a relations~~~.
Welcome brother, free yourself from the pussy scam.
Thanks for the welcome, guys! Your attitude towards me is a great proof of how men are actually more supportive and true friendly towards each other than women are (just like Muglintar said).
men are actually more supportive and true friendly towards each other than women are
Welcome, yes well women understand perfectly each other, so no wonder they hate each other.
The choices we make, not the chances we take, determine our destiny
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