Nothing has CHANGED and nothing every will.

[pZ1$Participant 110]

Hi Guys,
I have not been here in ages. I must say, the more I watch MGTOW videos the more it makes sense!
I have gotten excellent advice from you guys here, and I appreciate it! I hope to read your replies again.
Nothing has changed in my marriage. It’s still loveless, even her telling me she doesn’t L me. And a totally sxless marriage at that! If only this woman knew the depression and heartache she has caused me by not letting me get some! But she doesn’t care. She never has and never will. She’s just happy go live her life as is. She’s so happy and sweet to me just as long as I don’t bring up the Sx aspect of marriage. Nope, it will never, ever change… ever! Even if I told her I wanted out she would lie and cry and say she will change, but she won’t. Because she has done this before. Sure she changed for a day or two after I threatened to end it. But she went right back to being the workaholic hard narcissistic woman she always was. And on TOP OF THAT to say SHE DOESN’T LOVE ME and to not have that BOTHER HER and never to apologize for it? Amazing! So what’s holding me back? Why don’t I just end it? Maybe because I don’t know how. We have a kid too which really complicates things. And I wonder if she is fooling around. There were a few red flags. I don’t know… I came to vent. Hope to get response. And I WILL read your replies to me again… from here and from my previous posts. Thanks guys!

[PuniShredderParticipant 2268]

Why are you there? If you can afford to leave, LEAVE!! I can’t personally afford it at this time or I would. Life is short dude. GO! Be happy and STAY SINGLE…Use the bitches for the whores they are at most but WRAP IT UP.

Be professional be polite but always have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

[pZ1$Participant 110]

PuniShredder wrote:

Why are you there? If you can afford to leave, LEAVE!! I can’t personally afford it at this time or I would. Life is short dude. GO! Be happy and STAY SINGLE…Use the bitches for the whores they are at most but WRAP IT UP.

I really am not sure if I can afford it. I have a job but I make less than half what the wife makes. I don’t make all that much. Maybe that’s just a cop out on my part.

I thought of something today. I think a woman’s out is to stop having sex with their husbands so their husbands screw up and the wife can look like the victim and be out of the marriage. I really think that’s how women work.

[bladeParticipant]

If you have a gut fealing she is playing up on you go with your gut fealing .I bet if you have asked her that she will play it of with very few words like,don’t be stupid,your just been paraniod. That will follow by her making herself busy to limit eye contact.I think it would amaze blue pill guys how many married woman play around these days.

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[Anonymous 43]

its ok to write sex. lightning won’t strike you down

Sex sex sex sex sex sex…f~~~ f~~~ f~~~

See nothing happened…lol

btw you have been demoted from husband to roommate. Soon you will be downsized and become an employee.

Happened to me in 2007, never recovered, divorced in 2009.

Get out asap my friend, the life you save may be your own.

Thing to watch out for…suicidal thoughts. I almost self immolated in the back yard agonizing over this s~~~. f~~~ her and the kids and the house the dog, y’all can clean up after me for once.

[bladeParticipant]

pZ1$ wrote:

Kempercat wrote:

Why are you there? If you can afford to leave, LEAVE!! I can’t personally afford it at this time or I would. Life is short dude. GO! Be happy and STAY SINGLE…Use the bitches for the whores they are at most but WRAP IT UP.

I really am not sure if I can afford it. I have a job but I make less than half what the wife makes. I don’t make all that much. Maybe that’s just a cop out on my part.

I thought of something today. I think a woman’s out is to stop having sex with their husbands so their husbands screw up and the wife can look like the victim and be out of the marriage. I really think that’s how women work.

You are definitely right on that

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[Anonymous 43]

Amigo, ya might get lucky and the judge will look at the disparity in income…hell I had no job, stay at home dad, and she paid me every month while I was in college. Contact a lawyer…all the lawyers in the area. every single on e of those bastards. They can t rep her if you consulted with them…conflict of interest. lol another tricky way to f~~~ with yer impending ex c~~~.

[Anonymous 42]

She’s f~~~ing someone else and appointed you as a working orbiter to keep her solar system in tact and functioning (or should I say dysfunctioning).

Slap a magnetic GPS tracker on her car and see the places she visits and the time she goes there. Warning, you may not like what you find.

[WA4SWJParticipant 366]

I agree – get out! No sex from your wife is mental cruelty and is grounds for divorce. I am NOT a lawyer but have been through it. Go see an attorney ASAP. Usually the first consult is free unless things have changed. Find out your rights. If you can find an attorney that only works for men go see him. I have seen ads for lawyers who only represent men in my area. Maybe there is one in your area. With your disparity in income you may come out OK. Don’t let her whining and crying and promises that she will change dissuade you. She will not change as you have apparently found out already. Get out period. She is disrespecting you and is worth no more of your time. I wish you the best and I just hate to hear that you’re going through this. There is a MUCH better life out there. Go find it!! Wishing you the very best of luck….

Ed

[bladeParticipant]

If she is secreative with her phone is another good one.Woman just love there f~~~ing phones.Watch out for white knights as this unfolds to.Another sign female friend and there manginas will treat you different limiting conversation with you.Woman pre plan way before you know what the f~~~ is going on but it sounds like your up to the your head is spinning stage.

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[HitmanParticipant]

God made credit cards for this.
Lawyer up and get out.
Go into debt. .I did.
Your freedom and happiness are worth it.
Do it for the kid.
This is a very unhealthy situation for a child to witness.
Fix it.
Good luck brother!

[Won'tGetFooledAgainParticipant 3293]

pZ1$ wrote:

And I wonder if she is fooling around. There were a few red flags. I don’t know…

First of all, when women say they have no interest in sex they mean they have no interest in sex with their husbands. Trust me, by the time these women have checked out they are already starting on the c~~~ carousel party.

If your gut feel is telling you that she is fooling around, then I would say she is definitely fooling around. Give away signs are :

1)Joining a gym and loosing weight.
2)Buying new clothes and lingerie, these are for the new guy not you.
3)Not letting you see her naked. Her body is now for the new guy, by letting you see her naked she feels she is cheating on him.
4)Mobile phone has a lock and is never out of her hand. Spending ages in the toilet (sexting guys)
5)Spending all her time on Facebook (flirting with orbiters)
6)Going out with the girls way more than she used to.

For women, everything eventually boils down to Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.

[Anonymous 0]

Anonymous wrote:

She’s f~~~ing someone else and appointed you as a working orbiter to keep her solar system in tact and functioning (or should I say dysfunctioning).

Slap a magnetic GPS tracker on her car and see the places she visits and the time she goes there. Warning, you may not like what you find.

If you feel like she’s cheating she probably is. Get the GPS tracker and use it. But need Tower’s warning and no matter how angry you are don’t do something stupid.

[Anonymous 1]

My experience is that you have any gut feeling she’s cheating, then she is.

Bail,. Now.

One thing my dad taught me – You must think of your self first. Always.

[Dirtydog73Participant 232]

Won'tGetFooledAgain wrote:

pZ1$ wrote:

And I wonder if she is fooling around. There were a few red flags. I don’t know…

First of all, when women say they have no interest in sex they mean they have no interest in sex with their husbands. Trust me, by the time these women have checked out they are already starting on the c~~~ carousel party.

If your gut feel is telling you that she is fooling around, then I would say she is definitely fooling around. Give away signs are :

1)Joining a gym and loosing weight.
2)Buying new clothes and lingerie, these are for the new guy not you.
3)Not letting you see her naked. Her body is now for the new guy, by letting you see her naked she feels she is cheating on him.
4)Mobile phone has a lock and is never out of her hand. Spending ages in the toilet (sexting guys)
5)Spending all her time on Facebook (flirting with orbiters)
6)Going out with the girls way more than she used to.

Exactly what happened to me.
Did the tracker with her phone that I was supplying …google account tracked her movements…and yep sure enough..there she was every weekend ,..I worked away ,had the gut feeling ,she lost weight , new clothes with my money , new hair and nails ,my money…was “out with the girls” ..again my money and car…gut feeling is usually right …either get the proof ,lay it on her and kick her to the gutter (or out of the house) ..or get out man …just pack up and go

Fed, Fucked, Appreciated. The three simple things men want, but women will never grasp.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

I have a friend in the same boat–for years. Sorry to tell you this but…just because she doesn’t want sex with you doesn’t mean she doesn’t and isn’t having it with someone else. I’d lay odds chum.

[Anonymous 5]

pZ1$ wrote:

I make less than half what the wife makes. I don’t make all that much

This is why she won’t get divorced.
This is why many married men can’t get divorced.
She’s done her legal homework. She knows she’ll get f~~~ed over by the courts.

You’re just a gullible potential liability to her now.
She’s saving money for every day she can bulls~~~ and guilt trip you into delaying the inevitable.

She makes you feel important and wanted, every time she insists on staying legally married.
She’s playing your Blue Pill ego like a musician plays a musical instrument.
She is not evil, she’s clever and calculating.
Don’t get evil, just get clever and calculating too.

Don’t waste your time trying to catch her out.
Mentally give her permission to f~~~ whoever she likes, whenever she wants.
Give her permission to f~~~ a sports team or a zoo if she chooses.

The only way you should want to f~~~ her now is through the courts.

[PhantomParticipant 3328]

pZ1$ wrote:

So what’s holding me back? Why don’t I just end it? Maybe because I don’t know how.

I was foolish enough to do marriage twice. The second time around was hell.

I was holding myself back. Only you know if that applies to you or not.

Why did I not end it? I was too far gone, I was that destroyed inside, and because of that, I didn’t know how.

I stayed far longer than I should have, and it just got more f~~~ed up.

If I could go back and redo it now, I would have slept in my car if need be, and got out way FASTER.

Need to formulate an exit strategy & plan, if you want this nightmare to end sooner instead of later…

The alternative? That the title of this thread may be more true than you know. Unless of course, she finds a bigger wallet, and files for divorce.

[ExecrationParticipant 1496]

Did you marry my ex-wife? No- women just follow the same format. Workaholic wives are at the top of the totem pole of s~~~tiest wives by degree. Brother, she used your c~~~ to pole-vault into some s~~~-sandwitch version of sex and the city. Professional poll-vaulters always drop the stick though at some points.Its a s~~~tiest set of circumstances . Whether its you, chad thunderbolt , james caswad, bob, or whoever she’d throw em to the curd.

Look at it this way.If shes cheating;theres two men in her life she doesnt care about. Dont let a women make you feel like less.

[ExecrationParticipant 1496]

Divorce her ass and make everything look like her fault so you can get custody. If marital assets are not distinguishable in your state use it to your advantage.Put cameras in her car because technically your married and its not “hers”–its–yours and hers. Spy on her ass like crazy and spend all her money, best advice have fun doing it. Then divorce her ass. Oh and install micro cameras and p~~~ her off outside the house and play the helpless sheep inside the house.

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