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[FIDKParticipant 32]

I have been hesitant to post an introduction, cuz you guys are a tough crowd.

Still married, have kids, hence still married. There was another thread that I could relate to, where it seemed better on a cost/benefit calculation to stick it out. And, that is before I discovered this web site.

Since I found this web site (actually, starting with that Sexodus article), society has begun to make sense. I really wish this site existed when I was younger. I certainly am envious of anybody who is not married and has the chance to keep it that way.

My marriage has “improved” substantially since I found this site. I do not put up with (as) much bulls~~~. I make the decisions. She stopped hassling me about everything. sex life improved. She started to understand that she will have to work one day and has been studying hard. It is tough raising three children and and an adult child, but I do believe I am making progress.

I respect MGTOW, I am just not there yet. I have certainly gained from those on the forums. Thank you to KeyMaster for putting this site up.

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[tofu916Participant 36]

Welcome, brother. I am not sure how to respond, but I wanted to let you know that I was also a blue pill man. I did it all, from the marriage to the kids. These days, I am forever solo and forever fighting for the right to view my kids, whenever SHE allows it. Your wife may start to hassle you again about everything, after a while. I was always the one who wore the pants, so to speak. That did not stop my ex wife from leaving me, once I was on a US music tour.

Fight the good fight, man. I worry about you, because (IMHO) this always ends in divorce. I hope you stand strong when the time inevitably comes.

Be well.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Big points and respect for this kind of directness and honesty. Thank you.

I have been hesitant to post an introduction, cuz you guys are a tough crowd.

Really glad you did. But nah, not really. It’s just tough love. 🙂

Forget the MGTOW part of it, it’s for red pill thinking Men who are awake. Some might be married. But you know, if you got married a long time ago, things may not have been this bad.

I really wish this site existed when I was younger. I certainly am envious of anybody who is not married and has the chance to keep it that way.

Perhaps you couldn’t have known.

Who tells men in Canada if they live with a woman for 12 months, she’s legally like a “wife” now? Nobody. THere’s no possible way that a man could know that. So he has a girlfriend, innocently lets her move in, and 13 months later, she pulls some s~~~ and now he’s in a HEAP of trouble and has to pay her monthly as he is kicked out of his own place. The system likes to keep us in the dark. So its up to us to do what we can.

This happened to me. I remember finding out I was legally considered “married” to my live-in girlfriend of 2 years. BOOM! We were “common law”. I had no idea of the actual implications. Thank god she didn’t either or she could have started some s~~~. But thankfully I learned about it from other guys online.

FIDK wrote:

My marriage has “improved” substantially since I found this site. I do not put up with (as) much bulls~~~. I make the decisions. She stopped hassling me about everything. sex life improved. She started to understand that she will have to work one day and has been studying hard. It is tough raising three children and and an adult child, but I do believe I am making progress. I respect MGTOW, I am just not there yet. I have certainly gained from those on the forums. Thank you to KeyMaster for putting this site up.

thanks

This was the best thing I read all day. Thanks right back to you. And best of success with everything! Drop by again whenever you’re inspired!

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

You need to wake up and smell the coffee, it’s mostly likely if you get divorced your wife will screw up in many ways. She has that power and plenty of women use it. Child support, alimony, false rape or domestic abuse and you can keep it going. You do’t realize men are fed up with women and there’s good darn reason. I personally haven’t been married or lived with a woman because I could see their s~~~ coming so fast.

We don’t put up with s~~~ that’s all. We are tough crowd? Deal with feminism and see how it goes. Deal with women at work and crap and see how tough we compared to them. Men are being just reasonable, we don’t have a huge expectation. It’s simple to get along with men we are easily please yet women fail more than once.

Congratulations if you really did put your wife in line. It’s not so easy for most men I hope that you see it in time.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[experiencedParticipant]

Congrats on coming to the right place.

It might pay to think a few moments from the angle of she’s improving herself via the education so she gets the degree, has you pay for it along the way and with debt, divorces you, takes the max, and then uses that degree to make money for herself, after the divorce is settled. IOW when a woman tells you she is working so hard on herSELF for both of you, you have to trust her? I don’t, not anymore.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[RoyDalParticipant]

Welcome, and keep taking red pill wisdom. Here’s hoping you and your family are one of the lucky 5% who do not get divorced and are not unhappy, both.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[FIDKParticipant 32]

experienced wrote:

Congrats on coming to the right place. It might pay to think a few moments from the angle of she’s improving herself via the education so she gets the degree, has you pay for it along the way and with debt, divorces you, takes the max, and then uses that degree to make money for herself, after the divorce is settled. IOW when a woman tells you she is working so hard on herSELF for both of you, you have to trust her? I don’t, not anymore.

There is no angle other than the realization that she cannot count on me to be there. I do not care if it is for her only. She stopped hassling me all the time. It is not expensive. imagine if you could spend just a few hundred dollars a month to get your nagging wife to shut up for 90% of the time ? Is that not worth it?

I would love her to use the degree to make money for herself. That would be a huge step up from me paying her to surf the web all day, every  day. It would also count in the divorce as income (which is very hard for me to maintain when she f~~~s with me), so alimony might be less. Regardless, she would not divorce without her backup rich man.

I understand that divorce will be 1/2 of everything. I am good with that. It will be well worth it when it the time comes. I would like to stay together for the kids for another 5 years or so. After that, if things are not tolerable, I do not mind the cost of doing business (1/2). Money can be made again.

 

 

 

 

[FIDKParticipant 32]

tofu916 wrote:

Welcome, brother. I am not sure how to respond, but I wanted to let you know that I was also a blue pill man. I did it all, from the marriage to the kids. These days, I am forever solo and forever fighting for the right to view my kids, whenever SHE allows it. Your wife may start to hassle you again about everything, after a while. I was always the one who wore the pants, so to speak. That did not stop my ex wife from leaving me, once I was on a US music tour. Fight the good fight, man. I worry about you, because (IMHO) this always ends in divorce. I hope you stand strong when the time inevitably comes. Be well.

Thanks for the welcome.

I would rather be divorced, just several years in the future. There is no need to worry about me. If she becomes intolerable, I will deal with it by moving out again. Yeah, I came back to the bulls~~~. My daughter was sad; it was hard to resist. Also, I knew I would get raped by divorce courts; I researched the topic on numerous occasions. There did not seem like there was much hope.

She promised to change, did for a while, then went back to the old bitch habits. I found this site and got a better understanding of the way she acted the way she did (ingrained by nature/culture). Women do not want mangina’s and nice guys. I learned the power of No.

so far, so good. However, it does go against the feminist way I was raised/brainwashed. Also, I was pretty much putting the pussy on a pedestal. I stopped that. I get more action now.

I do not want anybody to think that I recommend marriage. You should absolutely not get married, under any circumstances. Love (passion/chemistry/chemicals) is NOT a good reason to get married. All societies in history seemed to have figured that one out. It is just hard to get it through to young men. They all have a NAWALT.

 

 

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