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Gravel Pit 5 months, 2 weeks ago.
Its praiseworthy that you have not gone insane, homicidally angry or suicidal.
Maybe you have, but youre still “Vertical” as Collin calls it and not in Jail TODAY at least. I only hope you still have income and a shack to sleep in.Keep your composure man. Your perseverance is truly an example and inspiration to men here. Reminds me of how absolutely precious my sovereignty is (because I once served 6 months in county jail and I know what its like to not have it.) Freedom to throw on some shoes and roam the land at will, is highly underrated.
Youre a reminder that getting tangled up with a woman for the sake of cuddles and some trim can turn into total triage. Its not a bad idea at all to just MONK and ghost sex and affection. Afterall, Liberty and Serenity is better.
FEAR based incentive training… hurting GOOD men…
That’s the part that makes the most sense. Fear. FEAR is what they really sell. But in fact, MEN don’t fear much anymore in jail. I will be writing the book and starting after I really get some things with my life all put back to what “Normal” I can.
But Jail is simply a place that goes by really quick for most. Just get High, and the time flies by in jail for those that take their Medicine given to them by the “Pill Doctors”, and then of course the “extra” stuff they get while in jail that helps the days fly by.
It’s amazing how how many times people just keep coming back. And how long people keep coming back. I met a guy who was 70 years old. And what do you know? DV. No kidding. I helped him get out of there, get his “Medical Shoes” and help him out and see if I could get him some relief. I’m telling ya, Probation Officers who work in the DV unit are the biggest waste of Money to the tax payer that I have seen in a long time.
We called him Grandpa in jail. This guy has been at the jail so much, he knows things like when the installed fences, added a new wing to the jail. All sorts of things. Sure he was homeless. But he was a drunk latter in life. Had problems with other drugs in the early days. (I made sure to get as much information on these men as possible as I wanted to know their stories since I can remember all that but not their names. ) Ahh! His First name was Sid. I know this since I filled out much of his paperwork for him as his hands shook to much to write anything. So I filled out much of his Request forms.
Thing is, the officers make sure to work with the other party to not only find them, but even go as far as putting them back in jail at any time a women says so. Just like Bill Cosby who can’t really speak for himself, or defend himself, this is just the normal as men get older, and the system is beyond their understanding.
The system PRAYS on these men to make sure they never understand the law, or try to better their lives and simply just try to stay away from a system that Can’t let them go. If they do, where is their paychecks going to come from?
Sid had a Pussy that was 48 years old. And of course you know that even at 70, the allure of a woman (even another homeless indigent woman) is still a powerful foe for a man. In this case, his home was a local Transit Station.
The entire point is to get these homeless men into a Program offered to men only via the Volunteers of America. What they all call VOA (Program) . It’s perfect for men that are simply just to f~~~ed up in the head to subsist on their own. However, for normal men, it’s like jail on the outside.
The programs that are state sponsored are not built to get you back on your feet like something like an Oxford house. It’s more of a way to make sure that you keep filling the coffers and jobs of those that always need more jobs and funding.
Like it or not, Jail does not rehabilitate. And the programs that DO JUST THAT? are Quickly Cancelled. In Fact, the Jail use to offer DV classes in jail. NO more. How odd right? About 20 % of men in there were there SIMPLY for that or had at least ONE DV charge.
They NEVER want to let you go. Even the Interstate compacts when it comes to DV orders are Bait and Switches. See, even if you don’t live in the state, or even in the AREA of the “Victim” , you can still have your Local state Probation officer act on a whim of another to come and pick you up or even put double the sanctions on you at any time.
Hence why sometimes, you are stuck in Probation hell forever. You either do jail time and do what I did, or risk losing your job, house and all your things due to you not being able to keep them up for months at a time while you are in jail. And you STILL lost your job since you were in jail for around 45 days or more as the standard you are in jail.
And the Tomfoolery does not even stop there. It simply just compounds while you are in jail. In fact, the entire idea is to keep you in jail so you can not access any outside sources to defend yourself. You are given a Mandatory Public Defender, and you can’t even get paperwork from the PRLA Act that allows you to file a Habeas Corpus to get you out of jail. In fact, it’s all a RUSE. And if you request it, you better know the form numbers BEFORE HAND and HOPE you know how to use the system that is all on a touch screen interface. There are no books, and no papers in the office. There simply is little you can do from what you have or given to you to use at your disposal. There is suppose to be a Law Librarian but that person is actually not really there.
God Forbid you take advantage of the PREA Act and laws. That is / are the Prisoner Rape Elimination Act. Something I had to use while in jail. No, Mickeys But hole is still virgin thank you. But being called a F~~~ing Homo from the guard and witnessing him trying to start a fight in jail with an inmate at 1AM, then him focusing his attention on me, yea, that was the scariest thing I have ever had to experience. This includes my shoulder injury while in jail that I have to keep tight lipped about.
Point is, in Jail, your Public defender is all you have. And really, without family that supports you, you are F~~~ED. So for those that thing that MGTOW and being your own man is a safer bet, think again. They got this angle a well.
From the books in the regular Dorms , to the services they offer, all of it in JAIL is to keep you as dumb as possible. Tons of books about fantasy and fiction. Hardly ANYTHING there to help you grow or learn. No kidding. There are some self help book titles that I read and some great books there. But they are in the minority. I actually have some great recommendations for these books from a guy that would never read them to save his life. Here I was reading them.
I can tell you that the first book I picked up was Alan Turing the Enigma. The First Serious Biography that I have read in my life really. And it had a TON of pages. Took me more then 2 months to read it all. Low and Behold, (No Offense to the GAyBro’s) it was about a Homosexual Mathematician, and in my case thankfully, one of the best books I have read. In fact, the Vocabulary may even stump some of the higher end minds here. I really needed a Dictionary to be able to even read the book. Course it was a reprint from the 80’s, and had a bunch of new additions and centered on Cryptography. In fact, it even helped my understanding of how we use HASH and so many other things we use in Computers tech today to secure information today.
What surprised me is how guys like this get almost no mention in the GAY community! Why the hell not talk about this instead of always Civil rights BS. THIS would be the bridge that would have done more good for the civilization we had today then the crap we are fed. It even goes into Communism, the war and so much more. And how he changed his ideas from each. The book was written by someone at Cambridge, (Andrew Hodges) so get your Dictionary ready. Or have google right at your side when you read it.
But what Alan Turing went through, is almost eerily similar to how John Ball had to deal with his problem. As most gay men of his time, he went out in style. A poison Apple. Even his death was an Enigma. That’s whats so crazy about reading this book. It makes you see not much has changed behind the covers of our lives or times.
This and the book called Mentor helped me with my time in there. Its of the first self help books that made sense. And really has some Red pills to when the CEO of his company had to ask his wife if she still wanted to stick it out. Weird. I wrote a review while in jail on Toilet paper since I did not have any paper to spare.
I actually wrote and sent out letter on Toilet paper a lot since I did not have paper most days. It made me realize just how important writing was to me.
I even started a few books on a Jail workout. And now am going to add a section on Jail Nutrition. (HOW I HATE POTATO’s is going to be a E-book for sure!)
Its praiseworthy that you have not gone insane, homicidally angry or suicidal.Maybe you have, but youre still “Vertical” as Collin calls it and not in Jail TODAY at least. I only hope you still have income and a shack to sleep in.
Keep your composure man. Your perseverance is truly an example and inspiration to men here. Reminds me of how absolutely precious my sovereignty is (because I once served 6 months in county jail and I know what its like to not have it.) Freedom to throw on some shoes and roam the land at will, is highly underrated.
Youre a reminder that getting tangled up with a woman for the sake of cuddles and some trim can turn into total triage. Its not a bad idea at all to just MONK and ghost sex and affection. Afterall, Liberty and Serenity is better.You know what really kept me going? I was able to help other men in there. I mean LOTS of them. If you were ever racist before, go to jail. You will see why White men turn, one side or another. It’s strange. You that preferential treatment that is really the source of all this bs? IT EXISTS IN JAIL MAINLY FROM BLACK GUARDS. Thankfully, there are a FEW white men that are firmly Constitutionals. (the people who wear the don’t tread on me tats, etc.) In fact, I got to experience this FIRST HAND from an Officer by the last name of Scott who Threatened to send me to another dorm for asking about getting medial and request forms. When I needed a grievance form to file about my Legal Mail being opened, he sent me on my Rack, and then, started to threaten me in front of the few inmates in the open Dorm. He thought that since there was so many Black men in there they would go along with it. Nope. 🙂 Sorry, Intelligence rules Mr Deputy. And for the Dumbest Jail guy in the dorm often (or the most greenhorn) Damn, did I have like a TON of people that looked out for me. But I don’t think you need that if you have conviction of Character. In fact, I have to say I had ZERO problems with Inmates. In fact, I had to look after a few Black inmates that were about to get their asses f~~~ed with by the Real Crazy white dudes.
Jail fights happen from time to time. But mostly, its all about from what I found out people not paying back for the drugs they get. The Jail economy as it is. That’s why Jails have something called Commissary. As I found out, that’s the currency of drugs in jail. It’s amazing really how things work in Jail. Just like an old Baker who use to work in the jails told me, “Business always gets done in jail” – HE was SO right about this.
In fact, the amount of things that happen in jail is really quite amazing. I even learned of a gang that according to his opinion can starts riots anytime they want. Even look out for each other. Not like the Blood or Crips, but something else. Not that much more amazing, but its like a REAL brotherhood of trust. It’s why so many prefer the jail life and jail friends. Trust is the best commodity out there.
In fact I have to go put money on some peoples books this week. For a while, they thought I was some kind of Jail Informant cuz of my very of the candor demeanor in jail. And just like my Chief was asked in the NAVY from the NCIS agent at one time : “Is he really that stupid” He answered with an outstanding “Yes, Yup…he really is..” .
Just like here, people have told me things and I kept them in Confidence. And I will forever as well. I will speak about them, and I got their permission to do so.
But the trust and the good will you experience is crazy from what it is on the outside. And the RED PILLS About Women just FLOW AND FLOW!
Jokes at bed time a 11PM are about the best you are ever going to hear. The fact that people go to jail just to visit with friends is an odd one, but, some peoples best Friends are in there.
I have to say, that there is so much that I need to catch up on. And I will soon. I got some Prison Economics to pay off. and some things I said I would do for some folks.
You know, I may have been one of the ONLY people in jail that ordered stuff just to give away to people who did not have anything or any money in jail to get stuff. Sure, I know some of it was used to just simply buy or trade for drugs. Whatever, to each his own. But I did save a guy from an Ass whooping. Amazing how far 2 packs of Coffee or Hot Cocoa will go in jail.
And I met some SERIOUS bad dudes in jail. The kind of thing that makes you glad you never stepped over that line. And, if you ever want to get anything done, these are the people you hire out or get out of jail to do your jobs for you. Think of the Old skool way the MOB sent in their Bill collectors. Now we just have police that do the work for you today. 🙂
But TRUST is the BIGGEST commodity in jail. And for a guy that NO ONE knew? S~~~, I had my lions share. Mainly do to the fact, I did not give a s~~~ who you were, WRONG IS WRONG. And you treat people with real respect and Dignity. A MAN is still a MAN.
I still don’t get what the fuss is about having “Jail Respect”. Some people say its the most important thing. I never understood that. I told a guy I was very close with that it means nothing dude. YOU ARE IN JAIL BRO!!!” But, to each his own I guess.
It was Mainly the Alcoholics & the DUI crowd that were the ones that had money or the Serious pushers of goods that had the better lives in there. Some were actually quite well off. But simply could not buy them selves out of their addictions and fell pray to their own vices. This Black guy said to me once while I was cleaning the bathroom (something I will tell you more about later!) , “You may be able to understand this, but I miss my Sonicare tooth brush with Bluetooth”, We laughed hard at that one!
Thing is, that’s how I found out the best lawyers to use for the future. THIS INFO, I am keeping WELL TO MYSELF! 🙂
In fact, it was odd that another man who I argued that White people have fell of the horse of civilization, actually offered me a room at his place. I smiled said thank you, and then got another man to take my place that could really use the help. He actually works as a Foreman making more then $40 bucks an hour and owns 2 property’s. I helped him with all sorts of legal stuff and showed him how to protect his assets from a legal issue he had gotten himself into. (More about that later) I never cower down when I know I am right about something. I made my point just like I would here, and it was clear, that some other white people felt uncomfortable about the truth of things with some black people around. But I made it clear, “Is the truth uncomfortable, YES. Is the truth racist. No. No it’s not. Stop being stupid. My Quote that Racism is nothing but Dick envy and Favoritism caught on real well.
I got the Nick Name “The Lawyer”. Yea, I spent a LOT of time in that Law Library. In fact, the amount of things I unfrocked while I was there was Crazy cool! And I kept making sure that I put my standards of living in the mix. From cleaning the bathrooms to work ethic. Something that Saved my But when I was accused of not working by a tyrant of Work Crew Deputy when I fought to protest over the rights of Inmates to go to Jail Programs. I still got fined 5$ bucks, but I think I won my case. 🙂
Thing is, just like MGTOW life and the Loneliness that TFM talks about, it is all in your mind. Hard to believe on my last days, I was wondering if I had enough time to do paperwork while in jail LOL! Gives a new meaning to hurry up and go nowhere I guess. But your surroundings are what you make it. And I made sure that MGTOW values and the MESSAGE of MGTOW was a CLEAR ONE.
I even convinced people that BEING selfish is GOOD. Not BAD for overall people or community’s. (that’s another book in itself really) And I have to thank so many of you for that. But it all makes sense. Unlike some Religious Dogma that is only a Half truth.
I also made changes to the Buddhist Meditation. I’m not a Buddhist, but I wanted to learn mediation. Thankfully, the shaved headed women and the group really did something great. I almost know how to do it now. But how men do it, and how women do it are different. 30 min of silence, is not how men I think or those that are new to Medication do it. So the Guided approach that I brought up was amazing. 30 min felt like 5 minutes .
We even has a Ceremony for a lost comrade Light bright. We did not bother with the Chaplin there either. We did our own the whole Dorm when out to the small courtyard to have a service or him. Imagine more then 50 guys holding hands and talking. Weird how that would happen in a jail. But the man who I nicknamed Captain America was very religious. And He was a Built like Captain America! Damn YOU people who have great f~~~ing work out ethics!
Was it almost like Summer Camp? Kind of. The Food was just as cold sometimes and Plain. But it’s amazing what food you can make. Something called “spread” I am going to have to get the Recipe for! DONE!
And some History of the Spread. Of course, it came from California!
They also make Burritos with it. But they use Large Garbage bags to get the job done! And thankfully, Microwaves are not just used to light cigarettes, (more on that some other day) but also used to cook food.
There are all sorts of things you learn in an Open Dormitory Jail. And in fact, it’s a LOT safer. The part that sucks is the TOILETS. I WILL NEVER use a PUBLIC TOILET AGAIN. Once you find out what they are really used for, then you understand why so many lock them up during the night in California. Or look at one the same way again.
In fact, there are so many things that happen and could be prevented, but in fact are encouraged to keep the inmate peace in the jail. And to keep them coming back with their Frequent Rewards Miles. Me and this Arabian dude has this thing about calling the place 5 stars! It was the Joke of the day.
In fact, every-time we got a new person, he would yell out, “That’s the guy!”.. Just to make it feel more like home for the new people.
I can also tell you that if you were ever you right now, once you go to jail, you are never going to be poor again, or without funds. If you don’t have an vices, you life is made. I found out every damn trick in the book. From how to steal your car, to how to get away with crimes etc. The amount of money their is in drugs make you understand why so many do so. And also, why METH is preferred over any other drug. And how it’s made. If Gasoline makes your car go, it will do wonders for the week or so the high lasts from the drug.
I even found out why so many people prefer one drug over another. I think it might be Genetic predisposition. And MAN did I learn a TON about Heroine. How there are 2 kids. How they sell fake heroine. How the Pad it etc. And why so many people die from it. And why they give away free drugs so you won’t die from an overdose.
I learned so much about people, life, and how things really are even more the before. And how and why so many people just tend to after a while just live the outdoor life. This Bulls~~~ about Compassion for those on the streets and drugs is really dank.
In fact, those so called religious institutions PRAY on the people and their addictions. Not just men. WOMEN TOO. You can thank them for the state of religion today. And it’s ALL well known. Just kept under the radar. Why? Ask your local church how they keep the real money rolling in. It’s not at all what you think.
In fact, I may be one of the small handfuls of people who have never had any vices minus smoking. Something I have to admit, took me a bit to do when I got out.
Odd thing is, it’s alot like Heroine Addiction. And how it gets you high is that it’s trying to KILL YOU. And your body fighting it is the high you are getting as was explained to me by a very smart guy. Hard to say that about people in jail, but that’s just how it is.
I learned TONS about Predatory Gay males that pray on Meth addicted boys and men. The Joke in jail is that you are not a real heroine addict unless you sucked dick for it. And if you sucked dick for it when you are suppose to get out the next day? Well, then you are REALLY Gay for no pay. 🙂
Like I said, the Jokes and the fun times in jail depend. But after I got to a Worker dorm, things really got Brighter. And the people more diverse in a way. But it is what you make of it. I will never look at life the same way again. Hell, I never shaved while I was in jail. Something about using the same trimmer as everyone else…Meh, I’m GOOOD!
I hate getting stuff caught in my Mustache. But I’m going to try to rock the Rob Zombie Look as my sister calls it for a bit longer.
Sounds like a mad world you have got trapped in Mickey. How do you get out of the system once they have you by the b~~~~? Have you got a plan to just get out and get off their radar?
Sorry you have had so much crap.
That is the WHOLE reason for me to write the BOOK. Unlike most people that give you Half truths, it’s time someone told it how it was from OUR point of view. THERE IS A WAY. But in order to get there, you are hard pressed not to break the law in order to get away from it. It’s almost like a catch 22.
You need money in order to get away from the law. And you need to have a JOB, place and people you can pay that are ready to go and staged in a way that will not break down and have back ups as well. You can’t really get away from it until you really take some BIG steps to ensure you are out of their radar. Hence, why so many tell others to KEEP YOURSELF ANON ON THE NET! AND IN REAL LIFE.
You guys don’t get the amount of people that want this site to go away. THE THREAT IS REAL. MGTOW is the NUMBER ONE ENEMY OF ALL OF THEM. Religion. Government. EVERYONE! They WANT and NEED you to be reliant on them. That is why this system for so many keeps on going.
The entire reason why the DV set of laws are there are to make sure you NEVER get out of the system. Why they need you to be with women. And why they need you to think with your dick and never with your mind. And when you use your mind, they make it so that the items that you come up with lead you to the very same place you started.
Its CRAZY but that is how it works. You can’t even IMAGINE just how they already thought of that to make sure you don’t get out. That is why MGTOW is the ONLY way for men today. And Ghosting is now a real way of life. You can’t understand how well they have the place rigged and people in right positions to do what they are told to do.
You know how we all understand that the family court is Rigged. Think about that from a government Perceptive. And the amount of effort they go to to make sure WOMEN are not the ones affected or crying or WHEN THEY DO RAISE THEIR VOICE? Its a Game Over. The System has it all planed out. And very well I might add.
In fact the DV laws are made to make sure that women do not lose their housing as being the sole reason on section 8 for the last set of laws that were revised. Like I said, I studied like DDJ mentioned you should. What I read sent CHILLS down my spine when you read into the laws. There is little that surprises me anymore.
In fact the whole reason for VAWA not passing is the GUN LAW PORTION. None of the stuff that matters to men really as far as rights. It’s silent as silent can be. But it’s the only tactic that has worked. So don’t think your law makers give a s~~~ about you or your kids or men’s or children’s safety. That was a Very hard pill to swallow.
In fact, the whole idea of keeping the masses starved of info is the whole game. Even the Television that is in jail is made to keep your minds off the real world.
But as far as REALLY trying to dig yourself out of the radar? Once you get that first arrest, that first Police stop, it all starts from there. What I found out about how they keep records on you is simply JAW DROPPING! So many Databases and so many things out there SIMPLY there to make sure the cops and the state have any edge they can. What I can tell you is that the Second they are able to charge you with ANYTHING, THEY WILL.
I can’t state this enough, CLEAR YOUR F~~~ING NAME. But in the meantime, you really don’t have a real way to do so unless you have BUCKETS of CASH and Friends and Family all working for you and the PUBLIC AS WELL. And you have to do it all while keeping under the radar.
Ill catch you guys later. I got some stuff to do. Again sorry for the long post.
You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home
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