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Dear Members,
I have noticed that here in Switzerland, there are really not enough MGTOW… I have the feeling of being alone (in the dark lol) !
I know this is something that comes from the US, like anything else probably…
The community in the US seem to be quite developped, but still not enough in my opinion…
We have some Youtube channels in french but compare to english ones, it is very poor…
Do you think this Movement will increase with time ?
Really hoping so !
All the Best !
Christophe
Do you think this Movement will increase with time ?
MGTOW is LESS of a “movement”, and MORE of an individual Life Style and adoption of a PHYLOSOPHY (MGTOW).
Just by Woman continuing down there present path will turn more and more Men towards a MGTOW Lifestyle. Also, there are MANY Men that live a MGTOW Lifestyle without the “label”.
The community in the US seem to be quite developped, but still not enough in my opinion…
The only “community” that MGTOW can claim is an online global community which you are FREE to share in.
In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash
Will MGTOW increase with time? I hope so too.
I think that brand names can come and go but the truth does not.
Women are on top in the world today due to “equality” legislation that gives them special treatment and the prevailing culture in the west that says they are oppressed and need a boost. Women are also taking advantage of men continuing to perform traditional male gender roles while women do what they like and demand that men share the female roles with them. Getting too close to women -financially, emotionally, legally is not in a man’s best interest. That is the plain self evident truth. The truth tends to sell itself over time so unless women stop being on top and taking advantage men will continue to see this and start to treat women with caution.
Whether or not you call it MGTOW, it will still keep growing until something changes.
A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own
No movement.
I hope it doesnt grow.
Be glad, the more mgtows the harder life will be for you.
I wold say mgtow started with the japanese herbívore men.To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.
Women are also taking advantage of men continuing to perform traditional male gender roles while women do what they like and demand that men share the female roles with them
There is a lot in here this statement.
THEY want to be “independent’, but still search for provider husbanks.
THEY EXPECT Men to not only bring home the bacon, but to fry it up in a pan, wash the pan, put it away, clean the house, raise the kids etc. etc. etc. etc. while they DEMAND a McMansion, new cars, clothes etc. etc. etc.
WHY wouldn’t Men Walk Away ???
In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash
mgtow came from Canada, not the USA
Barbar was a New Yorker I think.
Stardusk was American but he expatriated and is basically German
There are MGTOW all over the planet. But yes, likely 75% of them are on the North American Continent.
When I saw the map on mgtow.co years ago, there were a ton of EURO MGTOW… you should be able to find many near you, dig harder
mgtow cant really go mainstream. lust is too strong. instinct is too strong. nuero-transmitter released that tells you woman is safe and needed, is too strong. LOL. Its like that one guy said, it’s nature’s way of doping you up right before it does surgery on your ass. She’s about to cold cawk you, so you nature gives you a high when she comes around, lessens the pain. LOL
Will MGTOW increase with time? I hope so too.
I think that brand names can come and go but the truth does not.
Women are on top in the world today due to “equality” legislation that gives them special treatment and the prevailing culture in the west that says they are oppressed and need a boost. Women are also taking advantage of men continuing to perform traditional male gender roles while women do what they like and demand that men share the female roles with them. Getting too close to women -financially, emotionally, legally is not in a man’s best interest. That is the plain self evident truth. The truth tends to sell itself over time so unless women stop being on top and taking advantage men will continue to see this and start to treat women with caution.
Whether or not you call it MGTOW, it will still keep growing until something changes.In fact @awakened said it well, this is maybe not a movement but more a philosophy of life… But still as human beings we need to share our experiences and thoughts with other who are living +/- the same thing…
Actually my biggest problem is that I am so attracted by the bodies of women, and excited by them… So it brings me lots of confusion and frustration in my relations with them…
I would really like to be asexual !
But still as human beings we need to share our experiences and thoughts with other who are living +/- the same thing…
That’s what this place is about.
Actually my biggest problem is that I am so attracted by the bodies of women, and excited by them…
That’s just NORMAL for a heterosexual Male. Unfortunately, the Matrix that we must live in has destroyed any form of a complimentary male/female relationship.
So it brings me lots of confusion and frustration in my relations with them…
Most cities globally have professionals that offer sexual services for reasonable fees. Even if it’s “illegal” it’s probably still safer and less expensive then dealing with any form(s) of “dating”.
In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash
I would really like to be asexual !
Get a doll, works for me.
I’m not a pump and dump guy, I’ve been looking for a unicorn, but now that I’m forty I have pretty much left the plantation.
"Society is to blame" Denton
No movement.I hope it doesnt grow.Be glad, the more mgtows the harder life will be for you.I wold say mgtow started with the japanese herbívore men.
Agreed, if MGTOW starts affecting the bottom line; breading (slave population), tax income stream ( to pay for all the benefits for women) , or too many 40 year old post wall hags left to their own devices. The state will start to legislate anti – mgtow taxes and property rights. So selfishly I hope there is no movement or publicity, I’m good right now flying under the radar. Free and happy.
SpleeferGalatians 5:1 (KJV) Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
So selfishly I hope there is no movement or publicity, I’m good right now flying under the radar. Free and happy.Spleefer
Couldn’t have said it better.
Be glad, the more mgtows the harder life will be for you.
I’m not too sure about that.
Agreed, if MGTOW starts affecting the bottom line; breading (slave population), tax income stream ( to pay for all the benefits for women) , or too many 40 year old post wall hags left to their own devices. The state will start to legislate anti – mgtow taxes and property rights. So selfishly I hope there is no movement or publicity, I’m good right now flying under the radar. Free and happy.
SpleeferI don’t think society really cares that much about MGTOW. At least not yet. Single men still pay s~~~ tons of taxes to support the wimminz whether they are with them or not.
My understanding is that up to 60% of men that have ever lived on this planet have not fathered children. F~~~ knows we have plenty of people with no trouble making more. Even if many men walk away from the plantation populations still grow. Temporary downswings in replacement rates for some populations are just that, temporary. The problems begin when we say “f~~~ no, I’m not giving you my hard earned cash to pay for the diabetes medications for that fat forty something cat lady”.Live a good life Christophe and go your own way. The MGTOW philosophy is about sovereignty over your own life. MGTOW can avoid women, date or just ghost through life. It’s natural to want to share experiences with like minded men and people don’t want to be different. The MGTOW philosophy has always been around to a degree and it is seeping into culture but many people don’t want to leave the matrix, it’s too painful for them. Build your life and find online communities to discuss MGTOW matters with. Work hard to make a great life for you.
Everyday above ground is a good one. Everyday above ground while single...better still.
Will MGTOW increase with time? I hope so too.I think that brand names can come and go but the truth does not.Women are on top in the world today due to “equality” legislation that gives them special treatment and the prevailing culture in the west that says they are oppressed and need a boost. Women are also taking advantage of men continuing to perform traditional male gender roles while women do what they like and demand that men share the female roles with them. Getting too close to women -financially, emotionally, legally is not in a man’s best interest. That is the plain self evident truth. The truth tends to sell itself over time so unless women stop being on top and taking advantage men will continue to see this and start to treat women with caution.Whether or not you call it MGTOW, it will still keep growing until something changes.
In fact @awakened said it well, this is maybe not a movement but more a philosophy of life… But still as human beings we need to share our experiences and thoughts with other who are living +/- the same thing…
Actually my biggest problem is that I am so attracted by the bodies of women, and excited by them… So it brings me lots of confusion and frustration in my relations with them…
I would really like to be asexual !To be attracted to the bodies of women is just a sign that you are a normal healthy man. This is your nature. You will get differing opinions on this but my view would be that a man must embrace his nature not fight it.
The problem is not your attraction to women (which is normal and healthy), the problem is women are out of control, unaccountable for the things they do to their lovers and dangerous legally.
My advice is that you look to keeping yourself safe in your dealings with women and you only deal with ones that you really think are worth your time, money and emotion. These are few in number. There are no unicorns in the forests. Some risk attaches to all interactions. However men are born to be good at taking risks and accepting consequences when they are unlucky.
What I am trying to say is that you will not stop liking pussy, nor should you try to force yourself to. However do not become a pussy beggar. Do not orbit women in friend zones. Do not give too generously for them. Do not white knight. Do not compromise your clear male thoughts by acting as a mangina in the hope of a sniff of pussy. Do not sign a marriage contract. In your inner heart, keep yourself for yourself -this is the key to going your own way. Don’t do the pussy beggar things that slightly increase the chances of getting your dick wet but which hugely increase the chances of your being used and hurt by women. Choose your own path unmoved by social convention and working your way around the minefield of legislation that is there to trap you.
Every man has his own solution, that’s just my suggestions. Be the man you are, wisely.
A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own
Will MGTOW increase with time? I hope so too.I think that brand names can come and go but the truth does not.Women are on top in the world today due to “equality” legislation that gives them special treatment and the prevailing culture in the west that says they are oppressed and need a boost. Women are also taking advantage of men continuing to perform traditional male gender roles while women do what they like and demand that men share the female roles with them. Getting too close to women -financially, emotionally, legally is not in a man’s best interest. That is the plain self evident truth. The truth tends to sell itself over time so unless women stop being on top and taking advantage men will continue to see this and start to treat women with caution.Whether or not you call it MGTOW, it will still keep growing until something changes.
In fact @awakened said it well, this is maybe not a movement but more a philosophy of life… But still as human beings we need to share our experiences and thoughts with other who are living +/- the same thing…
Actually my biggest problem is that I am so attracted by the bodies of women, and excited by them… So it brings me lots of confusion and frustration in my relations with them…
I would really like to be asexual !The fact you are attracted to women is a good sign -you are a member of a rapidly shrinking group -the normal healthy male.
My advice would be that you do not try to suppress your inner nature. You just take great care in your dealing with women.
Only get involved with the best of them. There are few of these -women who are really worthy of your attention. There are no unicorns and so there is always risk with women but men are good at taking risks and facing consequences when things go wrong.
Don’t be a pussy beggar and you will be miles safer. Pussy beggars do things that usually increase the chances of getting their dicks wet but which cost them greatly. Remember it is usually only scraps that come to beggars. Do not white knight, do not be a mangina, do not sign a marriage contract, be wary of legal pitfalls, do not let gynocentric thought influence your actions. Do these things and you will not be safe but you will be heaps safer. Life was not meant to be risk free but a man was born to be his own master and take his own path.
Do not fight your nature but keep yourself for yourself in your inner heart. That’s just my thoughts. Others will have their own ways.
A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own
I would really like to be asexual !
Get a doll, works for me.
I’m not a pump and dump guy, I’ve been looking for a unicorn, but now that I’m forty I have pretty much left the plantation.Did you have children ?
So as per today you live by yourself ?
Don’t you feel lonely ?
Don’t you feel lonely ?
If you want to feel lonely and isolated try legally enslaving yourself to some female that can destroy you at her whim. Then you will know what loneliness is. If you seek companionship, get a dog. Much cheaper and easier in the long run.
Untamed wrote: Quit complaining and Go Your Own Way in whatever manner suits you best.
there are really not enough MGTOW
Check your local marriage and birth statistics. I believe you’ll find there are more MGTOW than you think.
Be glad, the more mgtows the harder life will be for you.
On the contrary, the more MGTOW there are, the more markets will cater to us, especially since we’re rapidly becoming the only demographic with surplus resources to spend.
Right now the single mother segment is heavily patronized by the markets, because it’s so incredibly easy to part cash from irresponsible women, but as more and more Men Go Their Own Way, that ready supply of cash is rapidly drying up. Eventually the single mother demographic will run out of other people’s money to spend, and the market will follow the money to its source.
Bonjour Christophe,
Since your native language is French, I’ll try and answer in French.
Moi aussi, je souffre d’une dépression profonde et c’est pourquoi je tiens à te dire que MGTOW ne signifie pas forcément une vie solitaire sans l’amitié ou sans l’amour d’une femme dont les charmes physiques et intellectuels t’attirent et te font plaisir. Ce n’est pas une secte ni une réligion qui t’impose la chasteté ou l’abstinence basées sur une conception qui considère les femmes comme quelque chose ce dont il faut se débarrasser pour mener une vie bien remplie et plus heureuse.
Les MGTOW sont plutôt des hommes qui refusent de croire en un féminisme extrêmement dégénéré, déraillé et perverti, en cette forme du féminisme qui nous entoure aujourd’hui toujours et partout. Une grande partie des MGTOW sont convaincus, cependant, que la nature même des femmes soit en général le facteur rendant une cohabitation paisible et égale entre les hommes et les femmes impossible par principe. Moi, par contre, je crois qu’il faut tout simplement considérer chaque femme comme individu tout en étant conscient de tes propres besoins et de ta propre valeur humaine et masculine. Alors, ne te fais pas l’illusion que “l’idéologie des MGTOW” résolve ta solitude ou même tes problèmes psychiques. Certes, tu pourras faire de nouvelles connaissances ici, mais les conseils de celles-ci sont à prendre avec réserve parce que la promesse d’une vie plus heureuse sans femmes peut être trompeuse, surtout puisque tu rêves d’avoir une compagne.
En fin de compte, je te conseille d’entrer en traitement ambulatoire chez un psychiatre. Et oui, je sais que trouver le bon médicament, cela peut prendre beaucoup de temps, mais pour la plupart des cas, un tel traitement peut bien aider.
Et bien sûr, je suis à ta disposition si tu souhaites parler de ton problème.
Bien à toi,
Subtilitas 🙂
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