No one cares about men anymore? What to do?

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  • #28876
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    Ignis
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    Hello guys. A lot of time has passed since my last post. Hope all of you are doing great.

    Long story short:

    My sister broke up with her boyfriend. They where on a relationship for 5 years. I used to think she was different, but since she broke up with him just to have casual sex with other men… I don´t know what to think anymore.

    I became MGTOW just about 6 months or so. I have sex only when a women approaches me, and to tell you the truth, women nowadays have sucked so much dick that I am afraid of STDs. But anyway…

    The world of relationships has turned me into stone. I mean it, my heart is rock solid. On the inside I am sentimental, like almost all men. We all have a shell that protect us from the outside. But this world that we are living is taking away the little things we used to feel. Because if we DARE to feel something, we are undervalued. Could it be that all the things our parents teached us where lies and while realising this little by little we start to become less and less sensitive?

    People of my generation (90s- born in 1990) are having a rough time. Because nothing we used to think about the world is real. I think this is because times are changing, like they always did. But now, it´s different because we feel betrayed. All the things we used to think and do in the world of relationships didn´t worked. It was all a lie. And now we are in front of the real world and don´t know what to do with it, because no one teached us or said to us that it was going to be this way.

    What does a man have to do now? Women don´t respect our feelings because they don´t have feelings. Let me correct that: They have, but those feelings change like the wind. They have wishes that change like the wind and they fullfil those even if that means leaving us crushed behind.

    I feel no one want us or REALLY respect us. Not even in our own jobs or professions, but that is another story I think.

    Sorry to ask again but: What does a man have to do now?

    I want to focus only on my goals. I really , really dont see women as something beautifull anymore. It´s sad, but it is the truth. Maybe in the future something will change and they will be beautiful again. Maybe they´ll WANT us or love us like we deserve.

    I think relationships reflect society. And before, marriage and relationships where neccesary. Man and women supported each other. Now people are egocentrical, and nothing good can come from a couple of ego driven people.

    I would like to know:
    Do you feel less sensitive now?
    Do you feel like stuff like relationships and women have NO meaning?

    Just want to know if someone else feel like this.

    Thanks for reading.

    Wish you a good day/night.

    (Sorry for my english)

     

    #28922
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    Sidecar
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    What does a man have to do now?

    Well the first step is not giving a damn about whether or not other people want or respect men.  Because they never have.  They’ve only ever wanted and respected the material goods and services men can provide them; the men themselves are just disposable tools in their eyes.  So stop being a tool.  Stop providing.  Your life is the only one your have, and it is yours to command.  Your time and labor as well, so use them to enrich your life on your terms.  And if anyone else demands a share of what’s yours, be it time or resources, they better offer something damn worthwhile for you in exchange for it, not just bulls~~~ shame and empty promises.

    Do you feel like stuff like relationships and women have NO meaning?

    Did they ever?  And what the hell is “meaning” anyways?  A better question is what use do relationships and women have?  We all know what use they have to women: resources.  But what use are they to men?  Really.

    Also: “feel”?  Women feel.  Men KNOW.

    #28953
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    Diygkas
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    The loss of women in your life is a great deal. It’s kind of a loss of the purpose.

    When i crawled off from a deep friendzone, years ago, because i found out the girl i was in love with was making out with the biggest douchebag I knew, i felt quite lost. I didn’t feel anger, but it was quite despairing that all i had fought to be, and all a believed that was right crumbled all at once.

    So, you can spend your days waiting for a nawalt, but the truth is you will feel more and more empty. Sidecar is right. It’s not really a loss. What you miss was never there.

    #28963
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    Dayrep
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    What does a man have to do now?

    You’re absolutely right. Society doesn’t give two s~~~s about men. Women are the same as they have always been, only now they can unleash themselves in never-before-seen ways.

     

    Men have to go their own way and be very careful while doing so, at least for the next decade or two.

    #28970
    Ignis
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    You are right guys.

    Also: “feel”?  Women feel.  Men KNOW.

    You got me there, sidescar.
    The shocking thing, at least for me, was realising that nothing was like family told you. Just like Santa or the Tooth Fairy but on a bigger scale. And once you start to see  the truth around you…well you can´t belive so much bulls~~~.
    It is just like Diygkas said:

    The loss of women in your life is a great deal. It’s kind of a loss of the purpose.

    We never knew something different. And now that we do, is like beign born again. Is like starting again but with your concience clean. I just became MGTOW recently so maybe with time it will get better. More clear. And that all the s~~~ that now seems so heavy will just vanish or be replaced with joy. The joy you start to live when you know your real purpose.

    Men have to go their own way and be very careful while doing so, at least for the next decade or two.

    Hey Dayrep. Do you belive this will last that much longer?

    #28975
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    Dayrep
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    Hey Dayrep. Do you belive this will last that much longer?

    With the way MRA is growing and the bad name feminism is getting, I think it’s safe to say that we will have near-equal rights to women in the next 20 years.

     

    The anti-male attitude however will take longer in my opinion. Maybe 30-40 years. It took feminism this long or longer to make society this way, and I think it will take equally long to deconstruct it. Though I hope I’m wrong. Things will be much better in 20 years though definitely.

     

    The sick nature of women however, will never change. They will only adapt themselves to whoever is in power, like a new virus strain mutated to no longer be affected by any vaccine, but we will always be their hosts. Which is why it is best for society to always keep women in line. If they are not kept in check, thankfully, we can still go our own way in the foreseeable future.

     

     

    Stay safe!

     

    #28979
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    Sidecar
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    The loss of women in your life is a great deal. It’s kind of a loss of the purpose.

    It’s a lot easier to take when you realize that providing time, labor, and resources to ungrateful greedy women is a pretty p~~~ poor purpose.  It’s better to have a better purpose: yourself.  Of course this will be called “selfish”, but look at who calls it that: selfish women who want you to go back to providing for them.

    When i crawled off from a deep friendzone, years ago, because i found out the girl i was in love with was making out with the biggest douchebag I knew, i felt quite lost. I didn’t feel anger, but it was quite despairing that all i had fought to be, and all a believed that was right crumbled all at once.

    The best revenge is to live well.  Concentrate on improving yourself and your life and ignore what other people tell you to do on their behalf.  Believe me, there is nothing more satisfying than catching up with an AWALT years later and seeing her look at you and realize what she could have had if only she hadn’t been Like That.  AWALT regret is unbelievably satisfying.

    The shocking thing, at least for me, was realising that nothing was like family told you. Just like Santa or the Tooth Fairy but on a bigger scale. And once you start to see the truth around you…well you can´t belive so much bulls~~~.

    Society, well women, depend on those lies to keep men deluded into providing for them gratis.  So of course they are going to push them as hard and as constantly and as pervasively as possible.  The legend of Santa Claus exists to try to get little kids to behave themselves, but the legend of the NAWALT is for keeping men trapping themselves into working 40+, 60+, 80+ hours a day to support some lazy ungrateful wife and a bunch of disrespectful kids, a third of which aren’t even his.

    Think about it for a moment.  If women one day all refused to have children (assuming they could exercise that discipline) it would mean the end of the species, but at least the last generation would have one hell of a good time for the better part of a century.  If men one day all refused to get up and go to work, civilization would end that very day.

    With the way MRA is growing and the bad name feminism is getting, I think it’s safe to say that we will have near-equal rights to women in the next 20 years.

    I don’t have a lot of confidence in the MRAs.  Whining back at feminism for crumbs doesn’t seem a particularly effective approach to me.

    Pocketing your chips and walking away from the table is much more effective than trying to break a crooked house using a stacked deck with only a pair of twos in your hand.

    #29089
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    DruidVI
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    No one cares about Men any less than they ever did, either.

    I will continue to not give one single f~~~ about what a lack of slaves for the pussy plantation means for those who are running it.

    If economic, and political trends continue on as they have been, Western women will soon be sucking dicks for cans of expired dog food anyway, or even worse for them, they will be forced, yet again to  snuggle up, and get all cozy with an invading army of woolen, swarthy rapists, murderers, child molesters, and inbreds, none of whom who have ever heard of feminazism, human rights, or even a civilized code of law. Their mercies for non-compliant females will be non-existent. This exact scenario has played many times throughout ancient history. Rome alone has voluminous accounts of  this happening within the borders of their empire, many times over. In every case, the conquered women chose to happily defer, instead of fight, or even resist their invaders, in any way.

     

    Modern history will show us again, and again,  that a conquered nation’s women will never risk their lives for nation, duty, honor, or any other cause in which their Men have fought and died, sometimes by the tens of millions. They will instead gleefully bed down, and breed with their victorious invaders, in hopes of avoiding being put to the sword themselves.

     

    All of recorded history proves to Men again, and again, that women have absolutely zero loyalty to any of us.

     

    All one has to do is take a glancing look at the results of any historical war.

     

    Many “good” Men have been doing exactly that..

     

    Where will all these “good” Men be when the hoards arrive this time around, I wonder?

     

     

    Interesting times ahead, to be sure.

     

    #29115
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    Ignis
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    The best revenge is to live well.

    Perfect answer. This is it for me.
    A few months ago, before the red pill or even knowing what a MGHOW was, I dated a girl who rejected me in highschool. But I improved so much since then that now she was interested. Thank god it is over now. Living that experience teached me a lot, and that is when I started reading articles and opinions about women. Then I found the truth.

    #29122
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    Puffin Stuff
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    I think I don’t understand the question fully. I believe you are asking what to “do now”. Do you mean now that you have learned what the rules of the real game is, not the programming that your family, “friends” and society at large plays? Or do you mean what do you do now to have a relationship knowing what the pit falls are.

    Brief answers to both. What you do now is full fill your destiny. You were trained by society to be a pack mule and now that your free, you stay in the barn because you don’t know what to do with your new found freedom. Do you know how lucky you are? You can now determine your life as you see fit. Date if you want, don’t if you don’t want. Work at any job, find your dream job, go Galt. The possiblities are only limited by your skills and imagination.

    If you hadn’t woken up to the real deal you might, at this very moment, be at the beck and call of a woman trained to be a harpy and keep you emotionally beat down to placate her feminist sisters and what society expects from her these days.

    One false assumption modern men make these days is that men need women to guide them in life. Maybe that’s what your saying. You have been raised to see a woman as guiding your life like your mom did your dad (hypothetically) and now you need a wife (master) to tell you what to do. Many slaves in the south stayed on the farm after they were freed. They didn’t know what to do with their lives.

    In that case your at the right place, MGTOW central. You need to be self motivated. You are a free man. The kind of men who built this country without the help of the women folk.

    Choose happiness and do what it takes to reach that, what ever it might be.

    Choose a goal or not and do it. You know you don’t need anyone to succeed. You will be so much more successful without a woman than with one because your not spending all your time and energy trying to please some woman that doesn’t look to you for emotional support, her girlfriends are for that, who looks at you as the hired help that she has to sleep with on the occasion you get so horny porn doesn’t do it for you and you beg her to what in past would be grounds for divorce. Give you a little sex.

    Now pleading for sex from your frigid wife is considered marital rape. Under fault based divorce with was grounds for divorce. Men don’t have nearly the b~~~~ to do that today.

    #icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

    #29123
    Smacktalk73
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    In order to understand how a woman thinks, you have to ask this question:  “who cares about women?”

    The answer is “F~~~ING EVERYONE!”

    Start looking at how often, when you bring up a problem males have, the answer is “but what about women?”   Men’s needs and problems are completely erased every time we bring them up because everyone cares so much about women.

    That’s why women’s problems are at the forefront of every gender discussion.  Not because women are actually disadvantaged.  The disadvantages faced by women (the real ones) are completely eclipsed by the disadvantage faced by males — that everyone is completely concerned about women.

    #29147
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    Sidecar
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    This exact scenario has played many times throughout ancient history. Rome alone has voluminous accounts of this happening within the borders of their empire, many times over. In every case, the conquered women chose to happily defer, instead of fight, or even resist their invaders, in any way.

    In the case of the Huns, many former Roman men didn’t just not resist, they actually asked: “Where do I sign up?”  Because it’s a hell of a lot more fun being a Hun.  This is one of the reasons why the Huns were so damn unstoppable against the Romans; the better part of their armies were the best part of what used to be Rome’s military strength.

    #29156
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    Zuberi Tau
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    If a man has wealth, status and is a bachelor,  society will give a fraction of a s~~~ about him.

    They’ll give a s~~~ because the man isn’t living up to his biological imperative.

     

    #29186
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    Harpo-My-"SON"
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    I don’t care about those, who don’t care about me, nor do I care about their opinions of me.

    my well-being is my first and foremost concern.

    I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

    #29189
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    Anonymous
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    No one cares about men anymore? What to do?

    I don’t know about you guys, I’m a man, and I care about me…….

    I care about the plight of other men that can be steered to a much better future, and avoid the crippling effects of ignorance……

    #29227
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    Rennie
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    If economic, and political trends continue on as they have been, Western women will soon be sucking dicks for cans of expired dog food anyway, or even worse for them, they will be forced, yet again to snuggle up, and get all cozy with an invading army of woolen, swarthy rapists, murderers, child molesters, and inbreds, none of whom who have ever heard of feminazism, human rights, or even a civilized code of law.

    I don’t see things turning around before it’s too late quite frankly. The future is not going to be good. But atleast there will be justice served to those who ruined things for everyone else.

    #29254
    Ignis
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    Do you know how lucky you are? You can now determine your life as you see fit. Date if you want, don’t if you don’t want. Work at any job, find your dream job, go Galt. The possiblities are only limited by your skills and imagination.

    I know I am lucky. I truly am.

    Now I am more focused than ever in the things I REALLY want. All the rest is meaningless. I will succeed with this mindset.
    I readed all your answers guys. Thank you for taking the time to answer.

    Just today I started reading a book I should have read a long time ago. I think it is a classic around here. It´s called: The manipulated man by Esther Vilar.
    Holy s~~~. It is incredible. Mind Blowing.
    I found this book just in time. Did Not finished it, but I will soon. I can´t stop reading and laughing about how blind everyone around me are.
    This will get better soon. I just know it.

    #29255
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    Sidecar
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    Back to the Hun thing, the way I see it men have two choices when the barbarians are at the gate.

    1. Throw away their lives defending a society that never valued them and, best case, will only discard them to a life of poverty, vagrancy, and squalor should they somehow achieve victory.
    2. Join up with the Huns for a life of action and adventure featuring all the gold they can plunder, all the wenches they can bed, and all the self determination they can self determine.

    Choose wisely.

    They’ll give a s~~~ because the man isn’t living up to his biological imperative.

    Nah.  They won’t give a s~~~ about whether or not he fulfills his biological imperative.  They never have.

    They will care that he’s not providing them with his wealth, time, labor, and resources though.  Which is all they have ever cared about.

    This will get better soon. I just know it.

    A hell of a lot of power comes from being the only sane man in the asylum.

    #29256
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    Rennie
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    Back to the Hun thing, the way I see it men have two choices when the barbarians are at the gate.

    1. Throw away their lives defending a society that never valued them and, best case, will only discard them to a life of poverty, vagrancy, and squalor should they somehow achieve victory.
    2. Join up with the Huns for a life of action and adventure featuring all the gold they can plunder, all the wenches they can bed, and all the self determination they can self determine.

    Choose wisely.

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Zuberi Tau wrote:</div>
    They’ll give a s~~~ because the man isn’t living up to his biological imperative.

    Nah. They won’t give a s~~~ about whether or not he fulfills his biological imperative. They never have. They will care that he’s not providing them with his wealth, time, labor, and resources though. Which is all they have ever cared about.

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Ignis wrote:</div>
    This will get better soon. I just know it.

    A hell of a lot of power comes from being the only sane man in the asylum.

    Often in history, when a country could not win militarily, they would quietly work on turning their opponents country against it’s own men(via women) so that they would no longer fight for it and the country could be easily conquered.

    Sounds suspiciously like what we see today.

    #29259
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    Himeo
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    Do you feel less sensitive now?

    Yes.

    Do you feel like stuff like relationships and women have NO meaning?

    Absolutely yes.

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