Nice Guys Cannot Win

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8283]

If you’re a nice guy, and you want to date women, it seems like you have very few options. Since women, in general, despise your niceness, I suggest you choose one of the following:

1) Start acting like a jerk around women.
2) Stop dating women.
3) F~~~ a prostitute.

As a teenager, I somehow got it into my head that if I was nice and accommodating to women, that behavior would lead to a good relationship. And a good relationship would lead to sex. Boy was I wrong! But it seemed logical to me because other kinds of relationships were based on a quid pro quo system (friendships, working relationships, business deals).

I’m the kind of person that wants to live in a world where people respect each other, and we all cooperate with each other. I try my best to AVOID conflicts with people. Having that kind of mental approach to dating women, an dealing with their irrational/contradictory mindset, has not helped me successfully get laid at all. Women test men’s strength of character, and they will blatantly disrespect men until they get mad and stand up for their values.

I notice that when a frustrated man says, “f~~~ it,” and sets out to do some thing destructive to society (like a school shooting), he gets love and sympathy from women that never would’ve notice him before or would never give him the time of day. After he goes berserk, these particular women (who would never date him if he was well-mannered) suddenly see something special about him—especially if he’s featured in a TV news program. It’s like this: the thought (THOT) of being the girlfriend of a mass murderer makes their vaginas tingle.

In summary: nice guys cannot compete with Chad. Chad has the phone number of every hot girl in town and they’re all waiting for his call. They will check for Chad’s texts while they are on a date with a nice guy, and eat a nice meal at his expense. If you are a nice guy, you’re better off investing your money in the stock market than spending it on ungrateful bitches.

If you upgrade your social status, and find a way to become more assertive about the things you value in life, you won’t be seen as a pushover. The ladies may not like you, and some may hate you, but they will respect you. And the dating relationship should begin with a man’s SELF-RESPECT.

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Or just don’t give a f~~~, a s~~~ or a damn.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[ArcturisParticipant 2819]

Yeah, you can be a nice guy, just don’t do it FOR women.

Be whoever you want to be. F~~~ everyone else.

Protect Your Sovereignty. Women WILL TRY To Manipulate You. #NOCONTACT #ICETHEMOUT

[Anonymous 12]

When I was 17 I went with option 3. I chose whores. A different woman each time, no games no bulls~~~.

No regrets.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Great post!

I have decided to be myself…

And do what brings me joy.

Being nice in public is what grew my business.

Being a jerk and cracking misogynistic jokes is what I used to confuse the gold diggers during my free time…

C~~~s hate me so much, they get wet just thinking about my existence.

The existence of a man who “has everything” and doesn’t give a s~~~ about them.

My motto was: “If she does not like me with all I have to offer, then she is not the right one”.

Well, 100 per cent were not the “right one”, since the AWALT is a c~~~ by nature.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[WarloccParticipant 204]

Be you for you.

Changing to get women, successful or otherwise, is nonsense.

[Anonymous 2]

Nice guys need to stop worrying what useless whores think. Be nice to a homeless guy. He will appreciate it more. Nice guys can win…if you don’t play the game!

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

All of these c~~~s in the OP video are so shallow, superficial and stupid that I hope they will find their own bad boy and live a sitcom drama life to be happily ever after.

You will see them again on the Jerry Springer or Jeremy Kyle show…

Or as a cam girl on PornHub.

LOL.

But now on my side.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[Anonymous 42]

I’m a nice guy, a real nice guy! I just don’t let it out anymore!

It’s hard to let it out with the not so nice guy laws and government c~~~ shoved up my ass!

Social engineers just keep on engineering, and I just keep on throwing monkey wrenches into their diabolical machinery! NICE! GUY!

[AwakenedParticipant 35200]

WHY would YOU want to be a “nice guy” for a woman ?

WHY would YOU want to “date” ?

Nice Men, In Fact ALL MEN can WIN by NOT PARTICIPATING IN RELATIONSHIPS.

Dating leads to Relationships
Relationships Lead to Cohabitation/ Marriage
They ALL Lead to MISERY Sooner or Later.

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[DocParticipant]

It’s just like playing poker.

I have played a fair bit in the past but not for several years now.

In a game the person who seemed to be ‘out’ quickest was the one who tried to hard.

I learned that the most effective way to play and consequently increase the chance of being the pot taker was to play as if you didn’t give a f~~~. The bets made in ‘who gives a f~~~ ‘ mode -all be they still calculated- bring bigger returns than bets made cautiously.

Over think it and it unravels quickly. Be bold and brash and returns on bets soon come your way.

I played a lot of games that way, amazed that they brought the returns. Over thinkers won’t compete. Not unless they are rock solid confident they have the stronger hand.
They fold. You win. Never showing your hand.

Of course such a style doesn’t always work but it worked more than it didn’t.

So you want to f~~~ the ladies?
Stop giving a s~~~.

I prefer to avoid altogether.

Something very very satisfying knowing they want you but you ain’t for hire.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

Its not rocket science; humans evolved for hundreds of thousands of years to be a certain way, and a mere 6,000 years of “civilization” is not enough to alter human sexual instinct.

Females are attracted on an instinctual level to strong, masculine males that are dominant and aggressive.

Ask yourself, who is more likely to have females 200,000 years ago? Pee Wee Herman or Negan? “Nice” has NOTHING to do with the biological act or human instinct. There are hundreds of thousands of years of evolutionary engineering behind “vagina tingles”.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

The biggest winner IS the nice guy who walks away.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[narwhalParticipant]

That’s incorrect.

The quarterback at my high school was known as one of the nicest guys at school. A nice Christian boy. He dated the head cheerleader, and I doubt any girl in the school would have rejected him.

If you approach a woman like a doormat, she’ll assume you’re happy to let her walk all over you because you don’t have better options. There is nothing nice about letting yourself be a doormat. It does nothing for anyone.

A nice guy isn’t going to be accommodating with the hope of getting a woman’s attention in return. Nice is giving to someone with no expectation of return, OR doing nothing.

Ok. Then do it.

[sjt1975Participant 2536]

Ranger One wrote:

The biggest winner IS the nice guy who walks away.

A winner right here!

In my mind, I decided that, if I had to change the way that I am, i.e. being the caring/genuine/just/level-headed/loving Nice Guy, in order to have a relationship with a woman, then it is just not worth having a relationship with a woman. Women want guys who are ass-holes, rich, or powerful, or some combination of these, which I am not, and so I have never ‘attracted’ a woman; I did, however, fight this basic truth, by not fully accepting it, for 26 years, before going MGTOW, towards the end of last year. I now no longer care and cannot ‘love’ women, because I now truly know what they are (like), and I do not want a messed-up creature like that in my life, which is highly likely to compromise me.

[Joey AlfioParticipant]

All is not lost though. To the nice guys out there hear my words: I have nothing against you and actually respect you for being the way you are in this f~~~ed up world because you refused to corrupt yourself to be something that’s not integral to the nature of your character.

As others have said, walk away instead. During that recluse meditate on your evolution as a person and work your way into becoming a stronger and better person that cannot be compromised. Trust me on this being a sigma male isn’t so bad people will find you interesting and women will find an aura about you that they can’t avoid.

By competing with the sheep you not only become one but you’re bound by the same social constraints/boundaries as they are — and that’s to be F~~~ED.

Nice guys, don’t compete or this will happen! Be your own man instead and the throne will be yours.

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[Anonymous 11]

Outside of these female dolts, being nice generally works better than being a prick.

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8283]

Doc wrote:

I learned that the most effective way to play and consequently increase the chance of being the pot taker was to play as if you didn’t give a f~~~. The bets made in ‘who gives a f~~~ ‘ mode -all be they still calculated- bring bigger returns than bets made cautiously.

Like Cool Hand Luke:

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8283]

Joey Alfio wrote:

Nice guys, don’t compete or this will happen! Be your own man instead and the throne will be yours.

I’m a nice guy, and I approve this message!

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

[Anonymous 54]

They just dont want whimps.

Just walk up and ask them if they want to f~~~.

Or go monk.

You can still be nice.

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