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Hey. Recently found out about you guys through a GQ article (little scathing, nay?). While I wouldn’t consider myself a MGTOW, I have some questions I hope you won’t mind answering.
I briefly read through the FAQs and a few forum postings, and I wonder where you guys are finding all of these terrible women? I have a beautiful, compassionate, generous, kind wife/best friend/ partner, not to mention a beautiful mother and sister who are genuine, intelligent, complex human beings. They are all people I’m proud to know and I respect them greatly. I am curious why so many men would reject the opportunity to know women in this context.
I’m also curious about your relationships with the maternal figures in your life in general. From what I can gleam, there seems to be a omnipresent belief throughout this site that all women are conniving, lecherous sluts, gold-digging and without human reason. I’m curious of you would say the same of your mothers? If that is the parental experience shared by all of you, than I’m sorry indeed.
The language in most all of your posts is foul and anger-driven, dotted with logical fallacies and confusing arguments which makes your beliefs hard to take seriously. Do you consider yourself a serious social/political movement? If so, is your method of communication a calculated move?
Would love some answers.
-Thanks,
Mark
“Mark”. this doesn’t belong in “MGTOW Introductions” and your questions can be answered on your own by reading the countless introductions left by others. We won’t spoon feed them to you. In there, you can find weeks of educational reading – as well as in our archives. Use the top menu.
Where do you FIND them? Just turn on your television. They are everywhere. Like trashcans are everywhere.
Are you going through life with your eyes open?? Or are you, like, “using the force”./video/wendy-williams-teaches-women-to-trap-men-into-fatherhood/
That’s just one example. Need another?
/video/woman-castrates-husband-women-laugh/
You don’t have to “find” them. A service you pay for (like GQ magazine) will broadcast that s~~~ into your living room if you let it. Cancel your cable immediately and the problem is solved. You don’t even need to LOOK at them. Let alone seek and “find” them.
I’m also curious about your relationships with the maternal figures in your life in general.
Why? It’s not even relevant. I bought my mother a new computer for Christmas. But I also moved 2500 miles away from her. What could you – Dr. Freud – possibly diagnose from that?
Nothing.
“My mother” has nothing do with the 2 links I just posted for you.
From what I can gleam, there seems to be a omnipresent belief throughout this site that all women are conniving, lecherous sluts, gold-digging and without human reason.
Really?
Who are you trying to convince. Other people? Or YOURSELF.
/audio/3-million-dollar-bitch/
That’s not even from our site. So don’t even try that s~~~ here.
“Without human reason”, you say? “Without human reason”.Is that enough human reason for you?
You say you read about MGTOW in GQ Magazine? You know who the cultural writer for GQ “men’s” magazine is? Obese feminist Lindy West. This is about her intellectual capacity:
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Reading GQ magazine costs you money. That’s the kind of s~~~ you are paying for. MGTOW.COM is free. So knock yourself out. Now if you’re hearing “anger” within these typed words, then you should probably turn the volume in your head down a notch, because I graciously dropped what I was doing to happily answer your questions. Now if you don’t like the answers, then the “anger:” you are hearing is purely imagined in your own head.
Since you made it personal, I have never been shattered by divorce, never cuckholded, never robbed of 216 monthly payments because some goldigger took anything from me that I didn’t willingly GIVE her. So that whole “this comes from a place of anger” s~~~ doesn’t work here.
You don’t need to PERSONALLY murder someone to know that it’s WRONG.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Meh.To me you appear to lack the intellectual fortitude for a MGTOW discussion. Maby if you spend some time at some MRA sites and listen to some Karen Straughan for a few days you might just maby might be able to keep up with us.Other than that we don’t have time to bother with you.
frankly my dear i don't give a damn
Maby if you spend some time at some MRA sites and listen to some Karen Straughan for a few days you might just maby might be able to keep up with us
Pardon?? MRAS and Karen Straughan? Neither of them are MGTOW. One of them is not even a MAN.
When you want to buy a television, you don’t go to MacDonald’s.
Why would you ever recommend anyone wishing to educate themselves on MGTOW go listen to “Karen Straughan” or MRAs???
That’s as off-base as thinking sitting in a waiting room qualifies as “harassment”.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.I was hoping for an intelligent conversation, not belligerent dismissal.
Too bad.
I was hoping for an intelligent conversation, not belligerent dismissal.
Too bad.
Exactly the response I would expect from you. But that won’t work either. “Belligerent dismissal” would have been to delete you altogether and not even bother. Care to try again? Or are you stumped for intelligent conversation now. Anytime you’re ready. Its OK, we’ll wait.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.That’s cool man. Pretty much found what I expected to find. Just glad this will remain a fringe movement.
got a life of love and beauty to get back to.
-Mark
got a life of love and beauty to get back to.
Yeah ok. You run along and don’t let the door hit your vagina on the way out.
You didn’t find what you expected. You expected to get way with the predictable shaming s~~~ and failed miserably. You expected a bunch of men to start talking about their relationship with their mommies. (LOL!) That was hilarious.
Happy to disappoint you. Pleasure was all mine.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.I was hoping for an intelligent conversation, not belligerent dismissal. Too bad.
You should go on a date with Stephen Hawking then. Seriously.
Hey. Recently found out about you guys through a GQ article (little scathing, nay?). While I wouldn’t consider myself a MGTOW, I have some questions I hope you won’t mind answering. I briefly read through the FAQs and a few forum postings, and I wonder where you guys are finding all of these terrible women? I have a beautiful, compassionate, generous, kind wife/best friend/ partner, not to mention a beautiful mother and sister who are genuine, intelligent, complex human beings. They are all people I’m proud to know and I respect them greatly. I am curious why so many men would reject the opportunity to know women in this context. I’m also curious about your relationships with the maternal figures in your life in general. From what I can gleam, there seems to be a omnipresent belief throughout this site that all women are conniving, lecherous sluts, gold-digging and without human reason. I’m curious of you would say the same of your mothers? If that is the parental experience shared by all of you, than I’m sorry indeed. The language in most all of your posts is foul and anger-driven, dotted with logical fallacies and confusing arguments which makes your beliefs hard to take seriously. Do you consider yourself a serious social/political movement? If so, is your method of communication a calculated move? Would love some answers. -Thanks, Mark
what do you expect dude? this is a message board, not a church community group. no offense but you sound kinda queer. anyways we can say anything that we f~~~ing want. I will say though that the majority of people here think there are a few good women out there. but in my experience and many others, the majority of women in their 20s and 30s aka the next generation are sluts and lack any traditional values. that intelligent for enough for you ? now p~~~ of ya little bitch
Pretends to want “intelligent conversation”, but gets “intelligent conversation” from GQ magazine and prefers that instead. Even when you’re sitting across from him happily answering all questions and saying “OK! Ready for that intelligent conversation now! Anytime you’re ready!”.
That’s the problem with these who pretend like they are asking questions. You hammer them over the head with fact or three, and they will just believe whatever core belief has been pumped into their skulls. No genuine interest in understanding reality or others. Just a pretense… which is then followed up by back-peddling and desire to exit immediately: “I’m going to back to not f~~~ing my wife and reading GQ, now”.
His prison is a familiar, comfortable zone. Padded with walls of velvety self-deception.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.He created the strawman he wanted. That’s like proving dogs are aggressive by continuously harassing them as if to say, “If it were nice no matter how many times I poke it, it will not get mad and fight back.” When that dog does bite, then we see the dog is violent. This is a huge weapon in dysfunctional systems.
Finally, @keymaster, you described the simpleton. They love their comfort, and to them it is their god. They will lie, cheat, steal, or anything for their comfort. They are easily led astray though, and must be shepherded like sheep. They are vulnerable to shame though. I recommend letting most of their crap roll off your back until you start seeing a pattern emerge. When it does, point it out to them.
In this case, this person is just lying to himself. He wants to see us as people with problems which is why we’re here. He engineered something to get what he wanted, his self-fulfilling prophecy.
He created the strawman he wanted. That’s like proving dogs are aggressive by continuously harassing them as if to say, “If it were nice no matter how many times I poke it, it will not get mad and fight back.” When that dog does bite, then we see the dog is violent. This is a huge weapon in dysfunctional systems.
+10 if I could.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.I imagine he is showing his woman his bravado at entering such a website and how he pwned the evil MGTOW in his mind. I am sure he will get many pats on the head and perhaps even a doggie treat! Won’t that be special.
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
I imagine he is showing his woman his bravado at entering such a website and how he pwned the evil MGTOW in his mind. I am sure he will get many pats on the head and perhaps even a doggie treat! Won’t that be special.
He can’t afford to show this to anyone. He got cremated.
It doesn’t require “bravado” for him to show up here and try that s~~~.
It requires stupidity.Every mainstream publication would delete my reply – not republish it. That’s why Sharon Osborne was fired for that s~~~ and not promoted. And it’s why he didn’t proceed with “intelligent conversation” – even after his questions were answered. Because he’s an idiot. If there were a counter point, he would have made it. Instead he ran out as fast as he could…. like when you tell a woman to “go away and get lost” because she’s f~~~ing annoying, she will flip her hair and convince herself she’s “rejecting” you.
Same s~~~.
He’s making sure his wife doesn’t find out where he logged into last. The “happily married man”, with glazed over vision couldn’t even IMAGINE that his wife of 16 years could POSSIBLY hate the living s~~~ out of him – as she dreams of divorce on a daily basis – simply because he greets her with a SMILE in the morning. But guess what:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/personal/08/26/o.divorce.dreams/
That fool just thinks typing “I’m happily married” is proof of anything.
According to readers of Oprah magazine, he wouldn’t even KNOW.He should drop GQ and start reading a little OPRAH to get some insight on what he doesn’t know.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.KM’s: He’s making sure his wife doesn’t find out where he logged into last. The “happily married man”, with glazed over vision couldn’t even IMAGINE that his wife of 16 years could POSSIBLY hate the living s~~~ out of him, simply because he greets her with a SMILE in the morning. But guess what:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/personal/08/26/o.divorce.dreams/
KM hit the nail on the head!

This witch seems to have forgotten that no one held a gun to her head to take the wedding vows. Bitterly imagining she could have done better. sprinkle some baking soda on her and watch the sizzle.

Men, for the love of goodness, don’t put women through this living hell. Refuse to marry.
The best part of being divorced is being divorced from the mother and sister in law as well.
"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."
80% of divorces are initiated by women and over 50% of marriages lead to divorce. Many men are absolutely stunned when they are handed divorce papers, this is one reason we see high suicide rates for recently divorced men. You have to worry about false rape/assault allegations beyond logical comprehension. Did you see the “I stand with Jackie” incident in the Rolling Stone? The thousands of female supporters without any evidence and a published article without evidence as well! These false allegations can ruin your college career, professional career, and personal life. Radical 3rd wave feminism has created ludicrous child support payments and alimony payments (potential lifetime in some states).
I’ve seen deceitful women sucker thousands of dollars away from my “beta” male friends while leading them on, because they could. I suggest you take a look at some STD and STI (Sexually transmitted infections) charts as well, it will show you just how promiscuous women are. My relationship with my mother (and grandmothers god rest their souls) is/was great. Anyways, why bother asking us? Try doing some independent research of your own instead of absorbing the mainstream GQ nonsense.
Our visitor sits in his breakfast nook greeting her with “good morning honey!” and she cant wait to be rid of him because of a mile long list of diatribes she harbors internally for 16 years. To top it all off, she doesn’t even tell HIM! She tells Oprah magazine instead. And, when you google “happily married” …..that “dreaming of divorce” article is 18th on the list in popularity out of 12 million results.
In what f~~~ing universe does this kind of moron think he’s making a point by typing “I’m happily married…. you’re all just bitter angry, now come answer my question about your mother”. As if that’s the f~~~ing point.
You can’t even compete with that level of stupid.
And then posing as if he’s seeking “intelligent conversation”?Never mind MGTOW, he should drop GQ and start reading a little OPRAH to get some insight on what he doesn’t know about his own wife.
I wonder where you guys are finding all of these terrible women?
We don’t find them or even LOOK for them. We EJECT them.
It’s morons like you who live with them and sign marriage life contracts to their worthless asses.
There’re your answer, “Mark”. Cheers!
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Keymaster what an annihilation!! Those sniper bullets were flying lol!!! I know his tail is between his legs.
Never lose sight of what brought you here.

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