New To MGTOW, Is It For Me?

[thescotParticipant 2]

Hi guys, never sure what to say for a first comment on the internet. I hail from Scotland as you probably guessed I am 23 years old and like many of you agree with the thoughts shared about how negative women are these days due to society and feminism etc. I know what many of you may be thinking right now, what only 23?? That’s nothing and this guy probably has not had the experience to fully understand what it is we are talking about, well I have to say that may be true but my young age doesn’t make me blind to the fact about how much easier the female of our species has it in our modern day to day world. This movement of men going their own way is something I am thoroughly interested in as I believe it will help me in life as it has evidently done so for many others. I would however expect nothing but the truth from anyone who decided to comment on this post about what they might think of it. This would be my first dose, of the red pill.

[Lord VatsParticipant 379]

Hello and Welcome!
23 is old enough to know how gynocentric our society is. I’m 19 and a MGTOW. Here you’ll meet fellow MGHOWs who are even younger.
Yes it’s true that you’ll improve a lot after you stop chasing women. That is mainly because of saved resources (time, money, and labor). I suggest you start reading the archives, all the content is amazing and heavy in dose.

If you’re confused about where to start then I recommend this: Comments from Married Men. This is the most eye opening article on the blog and will teach you the 1st lesson of MGTOW, i.e. Never Get Married.

[ScandinavianParticipant 590]

Welcome! I am new myself though alot older (36 soon yay), and from your description you’ll fit right in. The big question the way I see it, is if you yearn to be a punching bag for a woman the rest of your life or not. If ‘no’, then you’ve definitely come to the right place.

Whatever you do with that knowledge; forming a family aware of the risks or living the life of an eternal bachelor? Now THAT is your way, you choose!

 

Anyhow, welcome.

[felixParticipant 406]

Being young is not a barrier to becoming aware of a need for MGTOW.   I am sure there are 6 year old boys out there that have watched their mothers totally screw over their Dads and thinking WTF!

more throttle ..... less brakes.....

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

Lord Vats wrote:

If you’re confused about where to start then I recommend this: Comments from Married Men.

Interesting article, but I disagree with a lot of what was said.  Based upon my personal experience

In my opinion women’s attempts to control their husbands are an instinctively motivated test of his strength and character. Deep down they want the man to rise to their challenge, not give in. Giving in to them all the time brings out their worst while standing up to them in a fair-handed way brings out their best.

Complete and utter balderdash.  Standing up to them brings about a relentless campaign to break you.

Over time the nagging, moods, etc greatly lessen if you make sure those tactics are the one sure way she never gets her way.

More bulls~~~.  The nagging and the moods do not lessen.  They intensify.

Society expects my to waste my life by serving others as a worker-drone in organized gene replication unit. Thanks, but no thanks. I will spend my life doing things that are good for me, because I am worth it.

The most accurate and eloquent assessment of marriage and the alternative I have ever read.

 

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Educate yourself. There is here a list of books etc that will gain you knowledge …. from which you can make your own well informed decision.

In no special order:

The Manipulated Man by Esther Vilat

Stand By Your Manhood by Peter Lloyd

Men On Strike by Helen Smith

Do Fathers Matter by Paul Raeburn

Aslo

Self-Made Man by Norah Vincent

Other guys here may add to this list.

Mgtow pick there own path and destination. That’s the beauty of it.

Welcome ☺

 

[ScandinavianParticipant 590]

ILiveAgain wrote:

Educate yourself. There is here a list of books etc that will gain you knowledge …. from which you can make your own well informed decision. In no special order: The Manipulated Man by Esther Vilat Stand By Your Manhood by Peter Lloyd Men On Strike by Helen Smith Do Fathers Matter by Paul Raeburn Aslo Self-Made Man by Norah Vincent Other guys here may add to this list. Mgtow pick there own path and destination. That’s the beauty of it. Welcome ☺

 

I’ve read Men on strike. Good book, but in the end I got the feeling she only wanted the plantation to stay whole and was just willing to reach further than other females to make it happen.

[Lord VatsParticipant 379]

@soldier-medic
The comments are not from true Red Pillers, that’s why some are inaccurate. Still, those men have suffered first hand and are trying to figure it all out. It’s basically a mental talk to themselves. Did you read all of the nine sections?

In addition to ILiveAgain’s list (I’ve read them all). I’d also add “No More Mr. Nice Guy” by Dr. Robert Glover and “The Red Pill Handbook” 2nd edition. The latter is available as a free download at r/TheRedPill.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Scandinavian wrote:

ILiveAgain wrote:

Educate yourself. There is here a list of books etc that will gain you knowledge …. from which you can make your own well informed decision. In no special order: The Manipulated Man by Esther Vilat Stand By Your Manhood by Peter Lloyd Men On Strike by Helen Smith Do Fathers Matter by Paul Raeburn Aslo Self-Made Man by Norah Vincent Other guys here may add to this list. Mgtow pick there own path and destination. That’s the beauty of it. Welcome ☺

I’ve read Men on strike. Good book, but in the end I got the feeling she only wanted the plantation to stay whole and was just willing to reach further than other females to make it happen.

Yes I agree but there is much truth and insight also.

On balance it’s still good for 80% of it.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

thescot wrote:

Hi guys, never sure what to say for a first comment on the internet. I hail from Scotland as you probably guessed I am 23 years old and like many of you agree with the thoughts shared about how negative women are these days due to society and feminism etc. I know what many of you may be thinking right now, what only 23?? That’s nothing and this guy probably has not had the experience to fully understand what it is we are talking about, well I have to say that may be true but my young age doesn’t make me blind to the fact about how much easier the female of our species has it in our modern day to day world. This movement of men going their own way is something I am thoroughly interested in as I believe it will help me in life as it has evidently done so for many others. I would however expect nothing but the truth from anyone who decided to comment on this post about what they might think of it. This would be my first dose, of the red pill.

Just work on yourself, and don’t be driven by social expectations.  Define how you will interact with women, by your terms, not social norms, and become a better man.  Find your own way, and make it work.  Along the way likely involves getting resources so you can walk with more autonomy and not driven by demands of society.  Know that loneliness and your sex drive can end up undermining this, so learn to manage.

What matters more that you do it, than worry about a label, if you fit in or not.  I believe the core of MGTOW is Your Own Way (Men Going Their Own Way, for me means that it is each man going his own way, not as a collected unified way).   So, to not be MGTOW would be for you to go the way of someone else.

In all this, there will be skills that are recommended to be developed, so you don’t make things worse for yourself.  But, I won’t say what, because you don’t know me, and it would be presumptive for me to tell you now what these skills are.

Well, that is my take.  As you ask around, I am sure you will get dozens of other ones.  Find the take that works for you.  The rabbit hole can be seen as going VERY deep.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

Lord Vats wrote:

@Soldier-Medic The comments are not from true Red Pillers, that’s why some are inaccurate. Still, those men have suffered first hand and are trying to figure it all out. It’s basically a mental talk to themselves. Did you read all of the nine sections?

I read your comment and went back and read all nine of the sections.

I found its accuracy to be poignant.  I has been a good reminder of why I filed for my divorce.

Now I just have to deal with the flashbacks.

 

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[Lord VatsParticipant 379]

Soldier-Medic wrote:

I found its accuracy to be poignant.  I has been a good reminder of why I filed for my divorce.

Well, I wish you best for the future. If your generation had such women, I can be sure mine would be in the toilet. MGTOW is the only way.

[WolfParticipant 890]

Welcome thescot!

At 23, you’re not too young. In fact, I believe a guy can never be too young to learn and observe what’s going on in today’s male/female dynamic. Like you said, understanding the cards that are dealt to you will help you in life.

thescot wrote:

1st lesson of MGTOW, i.e. Never Get Married.

Bingo!

[coolthingy450Participant 1223]

Well welcome don’t worry, you are not the only one. At 20 it is funny that older women, milfs tend to flirt with me way before a women my age would.

After a while, I too stopped caring about women feelings when making jokes, or discussing ideas.

Enjoy the ride thescot because it’s going to get even more fun.

Actions have consequences and consequences have prices. Cause and effect at work.

[HitmanParticipant]

stick around and learn, it will be good to expand your knowledge..be careful of the females ..the deck is stacked against us..lots of ways to skin a cat..dont be a pussy..ya might lose your hide ..if you make yourself number one instead of some chick, you have a chance at having a good life.

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