New question: Have men changed or simply responded?

[WhackerGuy2030Participant 999]

“Oh where have all the men gone” bellars cow after cow approaching the wall. “Why won’t they man up?” “Why won’t they grow up?” We’ve all heard it. I finally came up with a new angle I’d like to toss out there when I find myself in one of those conversations. To those befuddled by my life choice and are pondering the questions above, I’d respond simply by asking:
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“Do you think men have somehow changed, or have they simply responded to a changing environment?”

[BlacqueJacqueShellacqueParticipant 6890]

Love it dude. This is exactly the answer to the question.

[RealityBitesParticipant 2198]

A better answer to women is: “You figure it out”

[KeymasterKeymaster]

WhackerGuy2030 wrote:

“Do you think men have somehow changed, or have they simply responded to a changing environment?”

GREAT! If you’re speaking to a man.

We all know what “man up” means when a woman says it, so I would just ask her “what would YOU know about being a MAN?”. They never know what to say to that one.

And “Why won’t they (men) grow up?” is just a woman pretending to be an authority on maturity. But if being married is a sign of “maturity”…. then how childish is every divorced WOMAN?

Just hold a mirror up to them, and they won’t like what they see.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[ChuddoxParticipant 585]

RealityBites wrote:

A better answer to women is: “You figure it out”

The best answer is:
“…” *Walks away*

“Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.” - Robert E. Howard

[experiencedParticipant]

“Laydee if you answer that question yourself will you reject your answer?”

Yes, better to walk as you Chuddox say to.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

WhackerGuy2030 wrote:

“Do you think men have somehow changed, or have they simply responded to a changing environment?”

Does it matter?

That is the real question. And the answer is: Of course it doesn’t. It doesn’t matter at all.

Because men are not the issue here. If a woman can’t find a Good Man™ then the problem is with her entirely and entirely hers. It’s is not a problem of men or a problem for men.

: “Why can’t I find a Good Man™?”
: “Why should I give a f~~~?”

[clint englandParticipant 341]

As a good friend (married) of mine once put it:

‘A women can start an argument in an empty room!’

They can never accept any kind of fault what so ever and thrive on drama.

The sanest choice is to walk away every time and not even go there in the first place.

As i always say, some are nice to look at from afar but that’s about it. I feel so lucky to be the way i am in that i would choose a peaceful non-drama life over sharing my life with a women every time. Age has helped but even as a younger man, i found it all a struggle.

So glad i did!

I think if you was to ask most women in response to her asking where all the good men have gone:

“Do you think men have somehow changed, or have they simply responded to a changing environment?”

She wouldn’t care to know the answer, especially the more attractive one’s that have a football field full of c~~~ and or pussy available to them. At least that’s my take.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Both

One responds to a situation.

Head on collision?

Response: turn the wheel.

After comes the change:

Don’t drive on same side of the road as oncoming traffic.

Relations~~~ wise …. first you get the fk away RESPONSE ..

Then you find out you like being away CHANGE.

[bigboy83Participant 11312]

The sleeping giant is awake.

Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

[Silverstone the SecondParticipant]

I believe men have responded to their changing environment. The onus has always been on men to fix everything for women, because women can’t fix s~~~ themselves. So if she can’t find a GOOD MAN, then there must be something wrong with all men.

Of course, this is only shaming language, there’s no productive or intelligent talking with women on the subject. They don’t want to look inside themselves and soul search, they don’t want to improve themselves, they’d rather nag nag nag until they get what they want.

The best answer is to move away from them because they won’t talk with you, they’ll talk AT you with a list of demands then sit there all frumpy until you make them a reality. She’ll be sitting there a very long time.

Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.

[AFTParticipant 2722]

Hang on a second, let’s just take a leaf out of their play book:

Not all men are like that.

You must be bitter.

You haven’t found the right man yet.

I prefer “well obviously you don’t swallow”

How about “don’t you take it up the rear?”

Then turn your back and walk away, or pump and dump if you must.

When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan

[RockmaninoffParticipant 1641]

Keymaster wrote:

And “Why won’t they (men) grow up?” is just a woman pretending to be an authority on maturity. But if being married is a sign of “maturity”…. then how childish is every divorced WOMAN?

I used to like to read manosphere websites, learn about shaming tactics, learn how to rebut them; problem was, I either always forgot them, or I remember them, and then another shaming tactic comes up and I’m lost.

Nowadays, someone tries to shame me, says I should “grow up,” I just flash a grin, and say: “Okay, whatever you say.”

So much less stress in my life.

". . . elle, suivant l’usage des femmes et des chats qui ne viennent pas quand on les appelle et qui viennent quand on ne les appelle pas, s’arrêta devant moi et m’adressa la parole"—Prosper Mérimée

[STORMParticipant 738]

We are responding, when something goes to hell, you take the appropriate measures to fix it, HOWEVER … we can’t fix female nature, and shouldn’t put forth the effort even if we could, that’s on them. So it’s resist & evade time.

In simple terms, we saw the roof caving in, and ran for the emergency exit LOL.

If we listen to a female at all, It's no longer to find out if they're crazy, we know they're crazy, It's to find out what flavor.

[Frank V.Participant 2445]

“I’m looking for a good man, where are all the good men ?”
“What you are looking for is a man who is ‘good and dumb’.”
“What ? What ? What ?”
“Men who are ‘Good and smart’ are smart enough to know marriage is a bad deal.”

Usually the response, if there is one boils down to

“Muh Vagina !”

By then I have walked away. Men are more and more coming to the common sense understanding that today’s marriage contract is always against his best interests.

I think Keymaster said that “MGTOW is just common sense for men”, and that men are realizing it.

Frank V.

[J.D SilvernailParticipant 383]

We have responded to societal abuse on the part of pop culture. Pop culture didn’t use to accept feminism,but in the last few years it has. Ever since then the world has been going to hell in a hand basket. I don’t know why the average westerner has begun to tolerate such an outrageous group of women who want to dominate men. I just hope it stops soon.

I'm married to the game,but she broke her vows.

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

When a woman asks “where are all the good men?”, she is setting you up.

Never will she look at herself to see if there is opportunity for self-improvement or change.

No, she is looking for the opportunity to embark on a dramatic session of nagging, complaining, and man-bashing.

As others have opined, don’t engage. Walk away.
Female- Where are all the good men?
Male- Not sure. Bye now.

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