Neon Sign HELP

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    ResidentEvil7
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    I need help with one of my neon signs and I don’t know if anyone knows, but it doesn’t hurt to try. My transformer on my SEGA sign is out and needs replacing. I don’t know how to shop around for something like that and even if I did, I don’t know how to install it. I saw a YouTube video where the guy in the video cut the wires and to me that looks like something I would cause damage if I did it myself. So does anyone know anything about neon transformers and how to install them?

    Don’t suggest going to a fix it store, because I rather do it myself since I am kind of handy such things as VCRs, computers, bikes and PS3 repairs.

    https://themanszone.webs.com/

    #615855

    Anonymous
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    Not my balliwhick but here goes….
    1. Remove the defective part. Use your phone to snap pics of how it should be.
    2. Depending on your country, take defective part to a supply house and get a replacement. If US try Johonstone or Grainger.
    3. Replace defective part. Use pics from 1. To help.
    Good luck.

    #615868
    Joey Cusack
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    Your transformer should have a label on it like this one on Amazon:https://www.amazon.com/Neon-Transformer-Signs-Devices-6-5kV/dp/B00OYZSMM0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1506832311&sr=8-1&keywords=neon+sign+transformer+120v

    Search Amazon or Google for one that matches the input and output values on yours. Installing it may be as easy as connecting 2 wires in and 2 wires out. Should be easy to find a YouTube video on using wire connectors such as these:https://www.amazon.com/Orange-Wire-Connector-Pack-Twist/dp/B01L0GFV10/ref=sr_1_4?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1506833434&sr=1-4&keywords=wire+nuts

    Make sure you shut off the power to the device before working on it.

    #615881
    NotaFool
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    I’ve been an electrician for almost 30 years. Neon is not my thing but if you do what I say you should be able to fix the sign.
    The first reply you got was close. You want to take a picture or two BEFORE you disconnect anything.
    Next -make sure you photograph the label on the transformer. Or write down exactly what is printed on the label such as manufacturer name, model number or part number, voltage input, voltage output, amperage input and output, sometimes they have a date stamped into the casing or printed somewhere. Then disconnect the wires carefully and make sure you put wire nuts or electrical tape on the ends of the wires coming out of the transformer immediately before anything else. You may have power stored up in the transformer even after disconnected.
    Use your computer or phone to Google the info on the transformers label and you’ll find more crap than you even wanted to see. Sift through the junk and ads until you find the manufacturer website or an electronics or electrical supply wholesale house and search for the exact specifications ie: voltage amperage etc…
    Find a local distributor or wholesale house if you can so you can bring it into the place and match up the new and old transformers to make sure the size of the casing (body) is the same and has the same number of wires and most transformers have a diagram of the wiring schematics for the connections and the tube length, size, etc…
    Buy it, go home look at your photos of before removal and make your connections exactly that way it was and you should be fine to plug it in and pull the chain or whateverturns it on. It should work.
    Good Luck

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    #615890
    ResidentEvil7
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    It doesn’t have a label on it; it never did. I’m relying on the eBay listing I originally bought it from and all it says is 110V, which the only ones come from Asia, which for me is risking money.

    Would 120V be a better alternative to 110V?

    https://themanszone.webs.com/

    #616079
    Gerald
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    It doesn’t have a label on it; it never did. I’m relying on the eBay listing I originally bought it from and all it says is 110V, which the only ones come from Asia, which for me is risking money.

    Would 120V be a better alternative to 110V?

    Input voltage is not the concern, output is. You need to know what voltage/amperage you need out to the sign to be able to power it correctly.

    There may be some “standard” with neon, I don’t know… And you may find a bunch of neon power supplies are the same… That may be your only hope.

    No longer can we walk away, we must run. Remove the motive power.

    #616089

    Anonymous
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    Would 120V be a better alternative to 110V?

    We’re 120vac/240vac 60hz., Europe and many other places are the British Standard 220vac 50hz.

    Your 110vac is the low value with 120vac being the high value.

    You’ll need to understand wiring in a transformer and capacitor which they’re all different from one another depending on the wattage rating and type of gas charge the medium is, Merc vapor, Sodium, Haylide, ceramic, and floresent.

    I can only surmise the transformer and capacitor are matched to how many feet of tubing are in any given run, the longer the tube the more lumins it emits which determines the wattage. Armed with the tube diameter and the watts per ft. I pretty sure you can run it on a matching standard floresent transformer. always go over on the transformer never under. over will still run the light but under likely won’t or have a hard time firing.

    I’ve been doing my own transformers for years.

    Do you know where I can get high voltage feedback transformers for a 240vac 110amp tig welder? That’s my next mindf~~~ project! I there’s a standard I can use to match it up with a regular transformer and use it all the same! Even if I have to wind the f~~~ing copper coil myself!

    #616145

    Anonymous
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    Hey R-Evil7, I looked into it and the colors have everything to do with the transformers, but also found this self adjusting electronic transformer with GF. Make sure the tube isn’t cracked or chipped. Question the seller more on this transformer.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Allanson-SS1235ICH-Self-Adjusting-2K-12KV-35mA-Electronic-Neon-Sign-Transformer-/282672802849?epid=2203328882&hash=item41d09cac21:g:VU8AAOSw8d9U2SVk

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