Need of army ?

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  • #378548
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    Psl47
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    Hello guys , imwas thinking a lot lately
    That probably boys/men , should not go to army at all
    Why?
    Well
    Heres my theory
    1.Goverment will use you… they dont care if you die
    2.In army – you help to run globalist plans for their need
    3.Goverment will offer HIGH wage – but is it worth if they send you to die? ( most likely )
    4.When the Army it self has protected from terrorist attacks ? Never… Army needed to revenge and/or run globalists plan ( again )
    5.All country needs is borders and police to make it secure

    These contries Costa Rica, Iceland, Mauritius, Monaco, Panama and Vanuatu has 0 ARMY Personel … no one gives a s~~~ , and all runs good

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    #378555
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    It'sallbs
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    Except they don’t pay UK soldiers a high wage, they don’t even give them equipment that works properly a lot of the time. Then when they come back injured no one wants to do anything to help them. I imagine it is much the same situation in the USA.

    http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

    #378566
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    Faust For Science
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    These contries Costa Rica, Iceland, Mauritius, Monaco, Panama and Vanuatu has 0 ARMY Personel … no one gives a s~~~ , and all runs good

    All those nations you listed either hire mercenary armies, or they have a treaty with larger nations, where should their nation be attacked, a larger nation will come to defend them.

    I believe you are mistakenly looking at several groups as a single group.

    For example, there are several parts to the U.S. military. The U.S. military serves a civilian government. The problem is the globalists have corrupted the civilian government which controls the U.S. military to turn the U.S. military into the globalists’ own mercenary army.

    Also, unlike most nations, the U.S. have two separate intelligence organizations. The NSA and the CIA. The NSA is a branch of the U.S. military. The CIA is a civilian branch of the U.S. government. As organizations, in many ways the NSA and CIA do not like each other.

    At the individual level, you can have no greater friend, and no greater an enemy, than a member of the U.S. military.

    #378571
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    PistolPete
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    These contries Costa Rica, Iceland, Mauritius, Monaco, Panama and Vanuatu has 0 ARMY Personel … no one gives a s~~~ , and all runs good

    Sort of–Costa Rica and Panama have paramilitary forces and I hate to point this out but the M-13 drug gang originates from Costa Rica. Vanuatu and Iceland are Islands in the middle of no where but Iceland does have a coast guard and defense force–small and inconsequential but it is there.” Even though Iceland does not have a standing army, it still maintains a military expeditionary peacekeeping force, an air defense system, an extensive militarized coast guard, a police service, and a tactical police force.” And Monaco is not a country per se any more than say Lichtenstein.

    “Liechtenstein follows a policy of neutrality and is one of the few countries in the world that maintain no military. The army was abolished soon after the Austro-Prussian War of 1866, in which Liechtenstein fielded an army of 80 men, although they were not involved in any fighting.”

    #378575
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    Suggestius
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    Exactly globalism makes anachronism of regular armies. People should have a right to defend itself and its home. The rest land belongs to greedy corps. So lets give them to fight each other with mercenaries.

    Happiness for all and let no one be forgotten ("Roadside picnic", Arkady and Boris Strugatsky)

    #378586
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    So lets give them to fight each other with mercenaries.

    Excellent idea–and a potential career change for me. I will contract myself out as a general for their contract army! HA HA. AND I don’t work cheap!

    #378601
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    Suggestius
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    I will contract myself out as a general for their contract army!

    I think it could be like Cossack hosts. Common people live on the lands of armed society (mercenaries in this case), pay money for using of hosts property and stay protected by. Just thoughts.

    Happiness for all and let no one be forgotten ("Roadside picnic", Arkady and Boris Strugatsky)

    #378730
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    Faust For Science
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    I think it could be like Cossack hosts. Common people live on the lands of armed society (mercenaries in this case), pay money for using of hosts property and stay protected by. Just thoughts.

    Mercenary armies are a very bad idea. Look up the Thirty Years War, which began four centuries ago. Basically, the Thirty Years War was worse for Europe than both World War I and World War II combined.

    The Thirty Years War engulfed all of Europe.

    Half way through the Thirty Years War, which lasted longer than thirty years, the European governments found they could not pay the mercenaries their severance payments. In other words, if the war ended, the governments could not pay the mercenaries what was promised, and their hired armies would turn on the governments.

    And so, the governments behind the mercenary armies forced the Thirty Years War dragged on. It reached a point where every time an army lost ground, the retreating army stole and burned the towns they left. Anyone, or anything , that survived the retreating army was raped, looted, killed, or drafted to fight by the advancing army.

    This happened over and over and over again. This is what created the colonialism period, where anyone who could get out of Europe, did leave Europe for the “New World”.

    Eventually, after decades of fighting, the mercenary armies burnt out from a combination of not being paid, nothing left to loot, and the surviving soldiers reaching old age, with no one left to draft into the armies. And Europe was left a charred husk of what it once was.

    Mercenary armies hold no loyal to the nation, leadership, population, they fight for. A mercenary army will do just about anything for money. They will enslave or kill entire populations. They will turn on those that hire them for a number of reasons. Such as not being paid, or being paid more by someone else.

    #378746
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    PistolPete
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    Faust for Science has read his Machiavelli–but mercenary armies are good for one group—the mercenary army–get paid big bucks and avoid fighting if at all possible—when you don’t get paid sake the city of your former employer AH yes spoils the life of a Condottieri has its advantages!

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    Suggestius
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    Faust, that’s why I have mentioned not about common mercenaries, but about Cossaks. They were kind of mercenaries, because they had been payed with lands and money. Of course they served to the crown except times when they raised against it. At least people felt safe while living among them.

    Happiness for all and let no one be forgotten ("Roadside picnic", Arkady and Boris Strugatsky)

    #378799
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    Faust For Science
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    Faust for Science has read his Machiavelli

    Machiavelli gets a bad wraps. But, that monk knew what he was talking about. And his suggested on Republic governments are brilliant. Such as if a man has a stable job, home, and family, they are more loyal to the leadership, because they will have something to lose with the fall of the leadership.

    Along with arming the peasants, because the rebels the rebels will be armed either way. And an armed peasant population will decrease the chances of a rebellion being successful.

    Faust, that’s why I have mentioned not about common mercenaries, but about Cossaks. They were kind of mercenaries, because they had been payed with lands and money. Of course they served to the crown except times when they raised against it. At least people felt safe while living among them.

    The Cossaks were a special case. They were a family/group of mercenaries, generation after generation. They had a vested interest in keeping the nation of Russia together. This loyalty to Russian is why the Soviets did their best to kill off the Cossaks.

    #378836
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    Suggestius
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    They had a vested interest in keeping the nation of Russia together. This loyalty to Russian is why the Soviets did their best to kill off the Cossaks.

    I’m not sure if they had an interest like that. More likely they cared of their status and privileges in the Emperial society. They had deserved it with no doubts.
    The main tragedy of Cossaks they were humans and like the humans they made mistakes. They were warriors, farmers fishermen, even merchants, but never politicians. So during the Civil War Cossacks were killing each other and then Soviets decossacked those who didn’t leave Russia or dead. In fact the Reds banned the Cossacks identity. That’s how Cossacks have disappeared.
    The picture tells about each moments of the tragedy.

    Happiness for all and let no one be forgotten ("Roadside picnic", Arkady and Boris Strugatsky)

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