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Symmetric MGTOW 3 years, 5 months ago.
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Dear MGTOW brothers,
It has been more than a year since I separated from my now ex wife. Some of you probably remember my by my old handle (JeffersonianLiberal). But even if you don’t remember me, I will tell you how things been recently.
As more and more time between the trauma of the divorce and the separation passes I feel better about life. My sense of humor, my outlook on life, my approach to work and many other things have improved vastly.
My friends love me cause I’m generally a happy, respectful, know-your-boundaries type of person and I like it that way as well.
When she left me and divorced I became a shell of myself and swore women off my life forever. But here is the catch, I generally get positive attention from females frequently. Be it people on the street, coworkers, etc… and I’m okay with it, I just say f~~~ it and move on because I don’t socialize with them in any other way.
I fell in a trap a few days ago though. Been playing a very popular MMORPG and joined a guild/company there in which I ended up socializing with this woman. She is younger than me, about 26, and we kinda hit it off. There is certain chemistry there and some indications that she is really into me. As soon as I figured this out I got out of it. Left the company and transferred to a different realm where a buddy of mine plays. But when I told her that she gave me a hard time about leaving, in a I’m-going-to-really-miss-you type of way. And I’m not going to lie but that moved me… After what I have been through and everything I have studied/read on women I definitely should just be able to shrug it off, but it kinda bugs me…
I know that this is nihil novum sub sole, but wanted to share.
Hope to hear some advice from the elders on this issue.
Thank you all!
Love
J
Come on my brother you know better than that. Please on behalf of all your other brothers don’t give in to that. If you give in to that you will find the same problem it never matters who the woman is she is always the same as all of them. Look J, slap don’t do it
I can see their heads have been twisted and fed with worthless foam from the mouth. Bob d
I definitely should just be able to shrug it off,
you said it yourself, shrug it off.
that doesn’t mean you can’t hang out with her. just don’t let her move in with you. and don’t sign the marriage contract with her.
MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.
I know, I talked to my blue pilled friends about it and they said I should go ahead and keep talking to her. F~~~ me, like I didn’t know better than that…
Eff that.
That’s why I’m here writing this. It’s the f~~~ing spell I swear, women can just charm the heck out of you if you let them. That’s why better than not letting them charm you, is to not even interact with them and allow yourself to fall into that trap.
Appreciate it, Dave.
I definitely should just be able to shrug it off,
you said it yourself, shrug it off.
That doesn’t mean you can’t hang out with her. Just don’t let her move in with you. And don’t sign the marriage contract with her.
She lives a couple of states away from me.
I could be her friend, but if her personality already generates this magnetism, it’s can only be plausible that it could create something else down the road. That is why I requested a realm transfer, so I won’t see her anymore, even though I could text her via one of the apps we used for partying while-in-game.
There are very few women that I trust as friends, no more than three because they have been truly honest with me in their friendship throughout the years. But with a person that I just met online, s~~~, too many variables, too many ifs, it’s just a huge risk, and my rational mind can’t reconcile with that idea.
It’s just a bad deal all in all. But sometimes the indoctrination and programming about love, man a woman together, etc., gets me. It does. It’s a natural aspect of the human experience and a very frightening one for people like me who already can see these situations unfolding in terrible ways.
Anonymous54Ruuuun!!!!
I was talking to a guy about why he seemed SO attached to this one girl….. and another one who was talking about one woman from his past.
You know what they both said?
“Nobody else ever looked at me that way before”.“Nobody else ever looked at me that way before”.
I’m sorry. Not good enough. She LOOKED at you certain way? And that’s why you’re all smitten? Talk to me when she throws some noodles in a pot of boiling water for you, because batting her eyelashes is not enough. Drop the Disney video and just back away.
Sometimes men are such beaten dogs , sick and tired and discouraged by the whole thing, that they stupidly fall for the first/next nice girl that comes along and pays attention to them – or who shows any kindness.
she gave me a hard time about leaving
Ah yes! The neglected woman bulls~~~.
Your move is an “insult” to her personhood.“You’re leaving me? You asshole!”
“I think I’m in love.”
You made the move became it’s better for YOU, and no other reason.
a I’m-going-to-really-miss-you type of way
Yeah when an ex of mine heard I was moving to another city for work, she “gave me a hard time about leaving” too … in an “I’m really going to miss you” type of way. She made the last few months such a living hell, I couldn’t wait to be gone.
• Another one followed me across the country and “gave me a hard time about leaving” too … in an “I’m really going to miss you” type of way, and she stalked me for weeks. When I did NOT f~~~ her, she actually brought a false accusation against me.
• Another one “gave me a hard time about leaving” and cried at the airport. She was 19 years old and a virgin when I met her. She was REALLY good at pretending like she would miss me. She couldn’t WAIT until I came back for a visit. Less than one month later, she called me up and asked if I ever had herpes. No I f~~~ing didn’t. But she did, because she was already f~~~ing someone else.
When a woman says “I’m really going to miss you”….
Don’t place any stock in that.There is also nothing “special” about a woman giving you a hard time about leaving. Too may women already want to be paid to f~~~ off. ( if you get my meaning )
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When evaluating and qualifying women, don’t be so impressed or quick to think “that one is special”. We make that mistake very easily and women think all they need to do is bat their eyelashes ( or “say the right thing” ) and our eyes will glaze over.
I don’t want to hear her give me hard time about leaving.
What is she prepared to do to keep me around and interested?If they don’t make that effort, forget about them. They don’t exist.
ASK YOURSELF: Do I like this girl because what she’s doing is really EXCEPTIONAL? Or do I like this girl because most women are not very nice to me at all. Including my ex wife.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.What you felt when she gave you a hard time about leaving was emotional manipulation. Be grateful you were not in front of her in person. Women are experts at manipulation when they have the opportunity to use a touch to accentuate the emotional responses they want out of you. You may think I am portraying this as “evil woman” but I am not. Its both genetically written into their DNA and reinforced / taught to them by other women. Its just how women function emotionally when faced by a man they have interest in.
It would have been interesting to have had another account in the game which was unknown to the woman and in the same guild as her. You would have had an opportunity to see how a woman handles rejection. Not pretty.
When she was trying to convince you to stay did you happen to note how the conversation went? If you listen you will note it centered around HER feelings about how she would miss you. The conversation would probably center around her feelings, her reactions, and how your leaving would affect her. This insinuates that YOU are responsible for hurting her feelings. (to bring out the blue pill protector in you.)
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
Was your divorce traumatic enough?
Put a picture of your ex on the wall.
Where was I, oh yeah, was your divorce traumatic enough?
I hereby sentence you to two mandatory courtroom visits so that you can watch a divorce proceeding and remember.
Report back after and we will discuss further.
Peace brothers
I was talking to a guy about why he seemed SO attached to this one girl….. and another one who was talking about one woman from his past.
You know what they both said?
“Nobody else ever looked at me that way before”.“Nobody else ever looked at me that way before”.
I’m sorry. Not good enough. She LOOKED at you certain way? And that’s why you’re all smitten? Talk to me when she throws some noodles in some boiling water for you, because batting her eyelashes is not enough. Drop the Disney video and just back away.
Sometimes men are such beaten dogs , sick and tired and discouraged by the whole thing, that they stupidly fall for the first/next nice girl that comes along and pays attention to them – or who shows any kindness.
she gave me a hard time about leaving
Ah yes! The neglected woman bulls~~~.
Your move is an “insult” to her personhood.a I’m-going-to-really-miss-you type of way
Yeah when an ex of mine heard I was moving to another city for work, she “gave me a hard time about leaving” too … in an “I’m really going to miss you” type of way. She made the last few months such a living hell, I couldn’t wait to be gone.
There is nothing “special” about a woman giving you a hard time about leaving. Too may women already want to be paid to f~~~ off.
( if you get my meaning )
••••••
When evaluating and qualifying women, don’t be so impressed or quick to think “that one is special”. We make that mistake very easily and women think all they need to do is bat their eyelashes ( or “say the right thing” ) and our eyes will glaze over.
I don’t want to hear her give me hard time about leaving.
What is she prepared to do to keep me around and interested.If they don’t make that effort, forget about them. They don’t exist.
Keymaster:
To be honest with you, she invited me to visit her sometime and promised to cook for me HAHAHA! Go figure! So she actually did offer to do something very concrete for me aside from being kind to me.
But I agree with you and what you say.
We men are sometimes like abused animals in that regard. The slightest demonstration of tenderness or care from females can throw us off balance really badly.
It’s very possible that she took as an insult, too. It just makes sense.
Dear Symmetric. I too have been divorced. The first year went by in a blur; I have a lot of trouble remembering what happened during that first year. All together it took about 2.5 years to recover emotionally…I didn’t stop processing things on an emotional level until about 4 years had passed; at which point I finally admitted to myself; that things were not only NOT my fault; but mostly NOT my fault. I not only did the best I could do; but I went far beyond above the call of duty to try to save my marriage; and in the end I failed.
And the reason I failed was that my ex-wife utterly refused to compromise on ANYTHING; admit any wrong doing; etc. Her ego was far more important than the marriage. So…this is how it came about for me; but for you. I will tell you this:
You will have some self doubts for years; eventually and only very gradually you will realize that the Unicorns do NOT exist; that women are AWALT. And if a unicorn does exist: it is as rare as a magnetic monopole (which was only detected ONCE in all of human history; at Stanford)
Do NOT fall for the stuff that the woman is throwing at you. Recognize it for what it is: Emotional Manipulation; which is done to control you. Sadly: UNLESS you are a Criminal Lunatic Outlaw Biker; the ONLY thing that the vast majority of women are interested in: is your UTILITY. And that my friend is ONLY until something that they perceive as ‘better’ comes along!
As for the former: Most women realize that Chad Thunderc~~~ is ONLY good as a sperm donor. Chad will NEVER stick around and work and spend money and resources on his own child. So women after a certain age realize that TIME is RUNNING OUT! And that the Alpha male they are sharing with other females will NEVER be a provider; so they embark on a DOUBLE MATING STRATEGY of: Alpha F~~~s, and Beta Bucks.
That is: such women will cheat like hell and commit paternity fraud. They get the DNA for their kids from the street thug; and fool the mangina they are married to, into believing that it is their own child.
BEST of BOTH WORLDS as far as women are concerned!They get their cake and eat it too. And if enough time has passed the Courts are completely on their side and they can ASS RAPE their husbands and in some states for LIFE!
My advice to you is this: PUMP and DUMP until you reach the point of where that isn’t even worth the money and hassle; in which case: invest in a Fleshlight.
I have been TESTING women for 8 years. Went out with a LOT of women! Screwed them, all kinds of things. But in the end; I was ALWAYS disappointed when they failed one of my tests. It just proved one thing to me: AWALT! Yes…I am still testing; but with each passing year, I am becoming increasingly pessimistic on the line of BS women are throwing out there.
you been told.
now listen.
they are all the same.
don’t sweat that bitch..
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dime a dozen.Dude – since my divorce. I fell head over heels in love TWICE. I dated so many women; slept with them; etc. And every single one of them FAILED. I told them NO on something and they went berserk. I have had 2 women that FLAT OUT asked me to co-sign for them. (I told them NO!) within LESS than a MONTH they moved on to another guy!
Hard Truth here: YOU ARE NOTHING more than a WALLET and MAYBE a sperm donor: a source for DNA; but odds are the latter is reserved for some FELON she is f~~~ing behind your back.
I dated HUNDREDS of women; I have yet to find the Unicorn. I did discover Sasquatch; but she is married to Obama! 😉
Anonymous54It’s the f~~~ing spell I swear,
Thats exzactly what it is. Shake it off Man.Its your brain playing a trick on you. Get doing some activitys that requir logic. It will take you to a different part of your brain.
What you felt when she gave you a hard time about leaving was emotional manipulation. Be grateful you were not in front of her in person. Women are experts at manipulation when they have the opportunity to use a touch to accentuate the emotional responses they want out of you. You may think I am portraying this as “evil woman” but I am not. Its both genetically written into their DNA and reinforced / taught to them by other women. Its just how women function emotionally when faced by a man they have interest in.
It would have been interesting to have had another account in the game which was unknown to the woman and in the same guild as her. You would have had an opportunity to see how a woman handles rejection. Not pretty.
When she was trying to convince you to stay did you happen to note how the conversation went? If you listen you will note it centered around HER feelings about how she would miss you. The conversation would probably center around her feelings, her reactions, and how your leaving would affect her. This insinuates that YOU are responsible for hurting her feelings. (to bring out the blue pill protector in you.)
This seems accurate to me and it makes me realize that she clearly was interested in me. And because of it, I decided to leave as I mentioned before.
But I have to admit that I had forgotten about the “manipulation” element from my assessment. I naively saw it as a disinterested act of kindness. But…! We know.
Thank you, brother.
To be honest with you, she invited me to visit her sometime and promised to cook for me HAHAHA! Go figure!
I told this story before, but it’s worth repeating now.
A few years ago I had some VERY special tickets to a rare concert event. The tickets were worth about $250 each which I received as a perk. I decided to take this girl who’s kinda fun and the whole evening just blew her mind. I even kept it a TOTAL surprise until the very last minute. She actually CRIED when she found out.
At the end of the evening , she “offered” to invite me over for Christmas Dinner which she would cook as a way of saying thanks, because she knew I wasn’t going to be with family that year.
I graciously accepted her offer, and then I made other plans, because I bet myself I would never hear from her again.
I was right.
This wasn’t some Friday night drink thing. You don’t f~~~ing flake on someone you invited for Christmas Dinner. If that’s how she treats someone who treats her WELL, then she can go straight to hell.
THAT’s my point. “promising to cook for you HA HA” doesn’t mean jack s~~~. And re-read what I added above. Then maybe you’ll stop placing such stock on whatever crap comes out of a woman’s mouth.
“I’m really gonna miss you” is woman-speak for “I’ll be f~~~ing someone else by the end of the week”.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.How do you know she’s not a massive hambeast?
proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome
To be honest with you, she invited me to visit her sometime and promised to cook for me HAHAHA! Go figure!
I told this story before, but it’s worth repeating now.
A few years ago I had some VERY special tickets to a rare concert event. The tickets were worth about $250 each which I received as a perk. I decided to take this girl who’s kinda fun and the whole evening just blew her mind. I even kept it a TOTAL surprise until the very last minute. She actually CRIED when she found out.
At the end of the evening , she “offered” to invite me over for Christmas Dinner which she would cook as a way of saying thanks, because she knew I wasn’t going to be with family that year.
I graciously accepted her offer, and then I made other plans, because I bet myself I would never hear from her again.
I was right.
This wasn’t some Friday night drink thing. You don’t f~~~ing flake on someone you invited for Christmas Dinner. If that’s how she treats someone who treats her WELL, then she can go straight to hell.
THAT’s my point. “promising to cook for you HA HA” doesn’t mean jack s~~~. And re-read what I added above. Then maybe you’ll stop placing such stock on whatever crap comes out of a woman’s mouth.
“I’m really gonna miss you” is woman-speak for “I’ll be f~~~ing someone else by the end of the week”.
Man, I love your stories.
Point taken. Brothers, thank you for bringing life into my life with your inquisitiveness and your intellect.
Proud to be part of the group and a MGTOW, even in moments of weakness like today.
Yes, sir!
I know. And that’s why I got the heck out of there.
The minute I started thinking and feeling s~~~ like that was the minute I decided to take my buddy on his word and jump ship to another realm.
Thanks!
Reality: thank you for your message. Sorry if I come across as naive with my post, I am not a naive individual. Quite the opposite.
Day by day I’m analyzing and assessing every single thing that happens around me. With that said, this is the first time in my life that I have spent so much time playing an MMORPG and I have had a s~~~ ton of fun. But it definitely is a new format for me, and that’s why I think that this happened. It’s just a very unfiltered (in some ways) via of interacting with people.
And for those brothers out there that play online games, please read this couple of blog posts that I have found very enlightening while thinking about this situation.
Hope it’s useful to someone aside from me!
Darksith and NO:
Yes! I agree.
ps: MY DIVORCE WAS A F~~~ING BITCH. Never, ever, in my life want to go through something like that again.
I was literally dead inside for several months while trying to recover from the trauma.
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