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Ned Trent 5 years ago.
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The above is an award worthy collection of female shaming tactics. But the responses given are inadequate and impractical. Would be grateful if some genius could tell us one-liners to these…. that make women using them look worse than the accused. I know it may look like a bit of work, but I strongly believe that is we can come up with good responses to EACH ONE OF THEM then we will have really accomplished something great. And we could put it up for the world to read! Take your sweet time folks.
“You’re bitter!”
“You need to get over your anger at women.”
“You are so negative!”
You need to get over your fear.”
“Step up and take a chance like a man!”
“You’re afraid of a strong woman!”
“Stop whining!”
“Get over it!”
“Suck it up like a man!”
“You guys don’t have it as nearly as bad as us women!”
“You’re just afraid of losing your male privileges.”
“Your fragile male ego …”
“Wow! You guys need to get a grip!”
“Grow up!”
“You are so immature!”
“Do you live with your mother?”
“I’m not interested in boys. I’m interested in real men.”
“Men are shirking their God-given responsibility to marry and bear children.”
“You guys are scary.”
“You make me feel afraid.”
“You are just bitter because you can’t get laid.”
“You’re one of those right-wing wackos.”
“You’re an extremist”
“You sound like the KKK.”
“… more anti-feminist zaniness”
“Are you gay?”
“I need a real man, not a sissy.”
“You’re such a wimp.”
“I’m not like that!”
“Stop generalizing!”
“That’s a sexist stereotype!”
“You misogynist creep!”
“Why do you hate women?”
“Do you love your mother?”
“You are insensitive to the plight of women.”
“You are mean-spirited.”
“You view women as doormats.”
“You want to roll back the rights of women!!”
“You are going to make me cry.”
“You’re unstable.”
“You have issues.”
“You need therapy.”
“Weirdo!”
“You are so materialistic.”
“You are so greedy.”
“If you didn’t go after bimbos, then …”
“How can you be so shallow and turn down a single mother?”
“I bet you are fat and ugly.”
“You can’t get laid!”
“Creep!”
“Loser!”
“Have you thought about the problem being you?”
“Stop being so negative.”
“You are so cynical.”
“If you refuse to have relationships with women, then you are admitting defeat.”
“C’mon! Men are doers, not quitters.”
“No woman will marry you with that attitude.”
“Creeps like you will never get laid!”
The right response is to not respond at all. Just ignore those folks completely and don’t deal with them.
I think TS makes a good point, when you respond to shaming you’re playing their game, and the best way to win is to not to play. To me that’s what MGTOW is all about. Getting swept up in more BS is unneccesary aggrivation, and I think it’s better to just let it go. Even so, some of the responses I’ve read from Keymaster are totally hilarious. Many on that list make no sense and sound like they come from a delusional woman. Are you going to argue with that? Anyway, I’ll leave you with:
“Are you gay?”
“I wish I was. Life would be so much easier being in a relationship without female bulls~~~.”
That one slipped out of my mouth a few years ago, and I’ve stuck with it ever since. 🙂
Price is what you pay, value is what you get. -- Ben Graham
I just posted this at the end of the other thread, but will recopy here to make sure bluetoRed sees it. I think he might be understanding the point we are trying to make.
Unless some girl has you chained up in a basement somewhere, you have volunteered to be handcuffed…probably in the hope that it will get you some sex. I volunteered for all sorts of bulls~~~ when I was your age. Male’s sex drive at your age is stronger than it will ever be, and women your age look better than they will ever look. Their demands are higher than they will ever be, and your ability to meet them is lower than it will ever be. This is the most comprised situation you will ever be in. Don’t make a decision to make these circumstances permanent. If you can avoid getting married, getting a girl pregnant, or getting charged w rape for a few more years, things will start to change. If you can avoid these things for about 10 more years, things will change a lot.
For right now, read your own post. You said you see no reason to be emotionally involved with women, then you ask how to respond to 6 different statements which are ALL invitations to get emotionally involved with women. If they can insult you, and make you mad, and you respond, they’ve just proven that what they think and say matters to you. They’ve proven that you care enough about what they think and say that you can be made to get mad, and change your behavior to respond to it. You’ve shown them that they can control how you feel, how you speak and how you act. That’s only possible if you care what they think. If you respond at all, you’re already involved.
Women who say this crap don’t give a s~~~ if you’re a virgin, or bitter, or a misogynist. You can be sure that they are not saying this things because they have any intent of helping you with them …especially #5. They are probing for a response to assess their own value to you. They’re checking to see how involved you are. Keymaster calls this a s~~~ test.
Let me explain it another way: You’re walking down a road past a farm. On the side of the road there is a fence and on the other side of the fence there is a pig standing knee deep in s~~~ and mud and slime. Pigs like s~~~ and mud and slime and will live in it happily for their whole lives. You know this about pigs. The pig invites you to jump the fence and have a mud wrestling contest. You decline. The pig gets irritated and calls you a f~~, a pussy and a bitter candy ass with mommy issues and says you must have a little dick and crappy wrestling skills if you won’t jump the fence and get into a mud wrestling contest right f~~~ing now…!
The pig is not very big and doesn’t look very strong. You’re young and strong and you’ve won wrestling contests before. You know you can probably kick this pig’s ass. The more p~~~ed off you get, the more you’re thinking about jumping that fence. Now, at about this time, there are a half dozen older, wiser veteran pig farmers who show up and tell you, “Better for you if you don’t jump that fence, son…”. But that God-damned pig just will not shut the f~~~ up…!
Now, about a half an hour later, one of the farmers tells you about a quote by a famous American author and philosopher named Mark Twain, who once said, “You should not wrestle in the mud with a pig, because neither of you will win, but after a while you’ll realize that the pig is enjoying it…”. But sadly by then, it’s too late.
By the time a half hour has passed, you’re already covered in s~~~ and mud and slime from head to toe. You look terrible and smell worse, and you can hear the pig, and several other pigs laughing their asses off. You’ve now learned that pigs who are covered in mud and s~~~ and slime are pretty slippery, and that the invitation was never to a wrestling contest in the first place. The farmers shake their heads, help you back over the fence and try to help you to wash off that God-awful smell of pig s~~~ that you are now covered in.
A week later, you’re driving down the freeway in your car. You look over and see a sign on the side of the road. At the bottom of the sign post, there is a pig standing knee deep in mud and s~~~. The sign says, “You’re a misogynist”.
What do you do?
My question to you now is this: Do you want to be the wrestler in this story? Or do you want to be the farmer?
Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you
Anonymous23A few of my responses. I’m by no means an expert but they’ve worked in the past.
“Why do you hate women?”
– “I didn’t say that. Interesting that you think so poorly of your gender that you assume I hate them.”
– “I love women. When they aren’t speaking to me.”“Do you love your mother?”
Response 1(If the girl doesn’t know you very well) – “She’s dead.”
Response 2(If a girl knows your mother is in fact, alive) – “Nope.”“You are so materialistic.”
– “I know.” (Smile)
“You are so greedy.”
– “I know.” (Smile)
“I need a real man, not a sissy.”
– “Off you trot then, love.”
“Men are shirking their God-given responsibility to marry and bear children.”
– “God was a MGTOW.”
Great thread! Women are designed to spend their lives choosing who they will give their precious eggs to. I say, F~~~ THAT! Don’t need any eggs today. It is amazing how much that p~~~es them off hahahahaha.
If you cant think of anything off the cuff “thats dyke talk” can cover most of what womin can throw at you, hope this helps.
Was cut and carried for a dozen years so therefore, twelve years a slave
Alright fellas,
Well, I am not an expert either but I might just give it a go for some of them shame phrases such as:
“Suck it up like a man…”
Response: “Been there done that, thanks.”
“You are so immature!”
Response: “You know that seems funny, because I never felt more mature than now until you mentioned it…”
“You make me feel afraid.”
Response: “Wow, what a sudden flash of inspiration from your end. After all that’s the very idea, hun… Suit yerself.”
“You misogynist creep”
Response A : “I may well be, but so far it worked out just fine for me.”
Response B: “You know, in this day and age let me tell you love, that’s no longer any personality flaw but a skill…”
“You want to roll back the rights of women!!”
Response: “Oh, on the contrary darling. You may have as many rights as you like and even with knobs on. And maybe just maybe one day you might realize that with lots of rights there is actually an equal lot of responsibility that inevitably goes along with it and which you actually should take on by the way…”
“You are going to make me cry.”
Response: “They say there’s nothing like a good cry to a woman. Oh, hang on, that was back then. I almost forgot: you are almost half male now, aren’t you..?”
“You are so materialistic”
Response A: “And who might possibly force me to be that way…?”
Response B: “Well, I used to be much more so back in the days when I had to… … and now I only am whenever I choose to be in exclusively my (very) own interest, thank you.
“You are so greedy.”
Response: “Hey love, go on then define greedy. And I want an expert definition for it if you will, thanks.”
“C’mon! Men are doers, not quitters.”
Response: “You know, the times have never been better than now to change / correct just that.”
And the ultimate way to leave nagging women rather week at their knees I think still is the following perfect rhyme:
“Women’s faults are many, men have only two: it’s everything they say and everything they do…”
Bless!
Best regards
Ned T.
I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC
My best bet is to not respond at all. I literally only communicate with women on a professional level, and that line will never be crossed by them, or me. I acknowledge women as the annoying little pest that just won’t go away, and I treat them as such. I don’t want to see a womans mouth open unless it’s to blow me like her living, or dying depends on it. Women literally have nothing to offer me outside of sex, and I won’t pretend that they do to make them feel needed, or valuable.
Humor is the best way to deal with this garbage. While I am no Oscar Wilde these are some possible comebacks that could get some laughs.
“You’re bitter!”
– Your bitterly cold.
“You need to get over your anger at women.”
– I would rather get on top of them. *make humping motions with your hips*
“You are so negative!”
– Than together we make a positive! Some math humor 😛
“You need to get over your fear.”
– I don’t know your face will haunt me for life.
“Step up and take a chance like a man!”
– But I do not even like dancing. (Step up is the name of a dance/ romance/ comedy movies series).
“You’re afraid of a strong woman!”
– No just their strong BO! *Hold nose and pretend to gag*
“Stop whining!”
– But I love my chardonnay. Or your preferred wine.
“Get over it!”
– How did you know my favorite Eagles Song!
“Suck it up like a man!”
– With a Hoover or Oreck?
“You guys don’t have it as nearly as bad as us women!”
– Well you never had to put up with you.
“You’re just afraid of losing your male privileges.”
-Oh yeah having an instant KO button located between our legs rock.
“Your fragile male ego …”
– Leggo my Eggo! LOL this one was bad 😛
“Wow! You guys need to get a grip!”
– And you need to get a new face! BUUUUUURN *laugh like crazy*
“Grow up!”
– Fine, go buy me some Miracle Grow then.
“You are so immature!”
– Your point being?
“Do you live with your mother?”
– Only woman who has only tried to poison me once!
“I’m not interested in boys. I’m interested in real men.”
– And only pedophiles are interested in little girls.
“Men are shirking their God-given responsibility to marry and bear children.”
– Stuff it rib woman.
“You guys are scary.”
– Awesome sluts love danger!
“You make me feel afraid.”
– Hum the Jaws theme and mime a shark.
“You are just bitter because you can’t get laid.”
– Small price to pay to keep you out of my life 😀
“You’re one of those right-wing wackos.”
– You don’t know the half of it, I only eat right winged chicken wings too. That’s how hardcore I am.
“You’re an extremist”
– True that I only eat Extreme Cheddar Doritos.
“You sound like the KKK.”
Es ist Zeit zu säubern
It’s time to clean up,
Wir müssen die Juden ausrotten.
We need to exterminate the Jews.“… more anti-feminist zaniness”
– Duck goes Mooooo!
“Are you gay?”
– God I wish but unfortunately I was not that lucky.
“I need a real man, not a sissy.”
– And I need a Real Doll not a woman. Google Real Dolls, they are awesome.
“You’re such a wimp.”
– Do you even lift bro?
“I’m not like that!”
– Yeah but your biased on the subject 😛
“Stop generalizing!”
– Stop generalizing my generalizing!
“That’s a sexist stereotype!”
– Is that the new model of Ghetto Blaster or something?
“You misogynist creep!”
– Was that an insult or are you hitting on me?
“Why do you hate women?”
– Not hate so much as I am afraid of anything that bleeds for 5 days and does not die.
“Do you love your mother?”
– Only when she brings me sandwiches. This is one you have to be careful using, only whip it out of you have a good relationship with you mother.
“You are insensitive to the plight of women.”
– And you are insensitive to the plight of Koalas!
“You are mean-spirited.”
– More like free-spirited.
“You view women as doormats.”
– More like expensive sandwich makers.
“You want to roll back the rights of women!!”
– Worked for Walmart!
“You are going to make me cry.”
– Your going to make me pass gas. Ah to late. (bonus points if you can fart on command)
“You’re unstable.”
– Only when I am talking to you 😛
“You have issues.”
– I prefer psychotic breaks from reality.
“You need therapy.”
– I already escaped once I am not going back!
“Weirdo!”
-Nailed it!
“You are so materialistic.”
– You can not eat hopes and dreams.
“You are so greedy.”
– I always thought of myself as more of a Sleepy.
“If you didn’t go after bimbos, then …”
– I wouldn’t get butt stuff as much!
“How can you be so shallow and turn down a single mother?”
– Just following the wisdom of those who came before me.
“I bet you are fat and ugly.”
– I bet its like looking into a mirror 😛
“You can’t get laid!”
– Technically it’s lied as you cannot lay a person, you have to lie them.
“Creep!”
– Can’t argue with that!
“Loser!”
– Impossible I have won many *super nerdy* tournaments/competitions.
“Have you thought about the problem being you?”
–
“Stop being so negative.”
– But it attracts the positive and repels the negative. (lol magnet humor 😛 )
“You are so cynical.”
– And your very cylindrical. BOOM!
“If you refuse to have relationships with women, then you are admitting defeat.”
– Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win. – Sun Tzu
“C’mon! Men are doers, not quitters.”
– Yup men do ‘er.
“No woman will marry you with that attitude.”
– Only if I am lucky.
“Creeps like you will never get laid!”
– That’s what she said last night too!
Anonymous11I’ve found that simply not caring period about what others think or say about me to be quite effective in maintaining my healthy masculine boundaries. The only thing that really matters is what others think about your reputation of taking care of business, and being a punching bag just doesn’t get anyone to respect you.
The madder and crazier a wench gets the less I care these days. I’ll always give her enough rope to hang herself and then open the trap door which usually does not take very long. Shaming is a simple tactic that both women and employers will use to control you to their benefit and not yours.
How about a select few “one size fits all” responses to cover it all…
“Blow it out your ass…but make sure you call FEMA first!”
“Smell my finger!”
“That’s what she said!”
“I’ll need to check my calendar but I think i can pencil you in six weeks from today to give a f~~~-all about your opinion. Maybe we could do steak and a blowjob at your place? Waddya say!?!”
HISTORY...learn from it, memorize it, DON'T repeat it...Jeeez Jambear, are these all yours…? If so, massive respect !!! (I’m still p~~~ing myself, bwuuhaaahhaaaa!!) Excellent, thumbs up!!!
I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC
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