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Anonymous2The NAWALT argument is always a favorite of women and their white knight and mangina pets. In fact, if you tell them why you won’t get married, it is usually the first defense they will pull out. What they don’t get is that whether one believes that all women are like that or not is irrelevant. What you reply with is:
“It doesn’t matter whether or not all women are like that. All divorce and family courts are like that! Over half of marriages end in divorce, and men always lose in divorce and family courts. For men, getting married is like laying their head on a chopping block, handing the woman an axe, and then praying that she doesn’t bring it down on his neck. On top of it, the courts make it an INCENTIVE for her to do so! Divorce means the man loses his money, his assets, his children (who he may never see if his ex-wife wants to keep them from him), and then future decades of shelling out half his check in child support and alimony to his ex. Why would any sane man want to take such a deal?”
NAWALT is irrelevant because the court system is rigged. Men have nothing to gain and everything to lose.
Limit your exposure to women as much as you can so you can focus on your own mind . After a while they stop asking. I came in here pretty messed up a year ago and what a difference a year by myself on my own has made. Hopefully for you and everybody else here you reach the point where you just don’t care anymore. If you just focus on yourself and stop worrying about what other people think you’ll be fine.
I can see their heads have been twisted and fed with worthless foam from the mouth. Bob d
Very well stated. Even if only half of women are like that (a very optimistic conjecture), your marriage is still a coin toss where you stand to lose everything. Female nature hasn’t changed, but marriage was safe and beneficial once upon a time because husbands ruled their wives.
Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.
Anonymous11Sometimes, I’ll get women telling me “Oh, you’ve been hurt.” instead of the NAWALT argument when I tell them I’ll never marry. So f~~~ing what, everyone gets hurt. You’ll get over it even more quickly with the red pills.
Nice job, Murph!
Anonymous2Limit your exposure to women as much as you can so you can focus on your own mind . After a while they stop asking. I came in here pretty messed up a year ago and what a difference a year by myself on my own has made. Hopefully for you and everybody else here you reach the point where you just don’t care anymore. If you just focus on yourself and stop worrying about what other people think you’ll be fine.
Oh, I give zero f~~~s what other people think. Just offering a piece of advice for more recent MGTOWs, as they are going to run into this when dealing with family and friends on why they refuse to marry. It’s a quick way to shut people up when they’re trying to pressure you to remain on the plantation.
Against that argument, the best weapon FEMINIST SPEECHES !
Why can’t I tell that all men are rapists ? If there is a sack with 100 candies, but only one of them is poisonous, would you take the risk ?
Why I can’t tell that all women are like that ? I don’t ever met any rapist, but all women that I ever met, were exactly like that ! So, suppose that in my life I met 2000 women, and 100 guys who said the very same about the women that they met, let’s give a change to women translating it to numbers that 99.999% are like that, and 0.0001% aren’t, did you think that worth the risk ? If 1 each 100 means that all are rapists, what 0.0001 in 100 means ?
I love how we can abuse the lack of logic on feminism !
Very well stated. Even if only half of women are like that (a very optimistic conjecture), your marriage is still a coin toss where you stand to lose everything. Female nature hasn’t changed, but marriage was safe and beneficial once upon a time because husbands ruled their wives.
I respectfully disagree with you here brother, marriage is not a “coin toss” a coin toss gives a man a 50 % chance of winning. When you do a cost benefit analysis on marriage it is a total 100 % loss for a man.
A brief example: One of my best friends killed himself, his wife had a facebook affair 2006, 2 years after facebook was launched. He lost his daughter had to pay child support, alimony, and she was a tradcon phony, he wound up living with his parents at 41 years old. He did nothing wrong he was a really good man. Threw himself in front of an 18 wheeler! Marriage………. not a coin toss.
"You can either love women or understand them, you can't do both". Truth over everything
Anonymous2Against that argument, the best weapon FEMINIST SPEECHES !
Why can’t I tell that all men are rapists ? If there is a sack with 100 candies, but only one of them is poisonous, would you take the risk ?
Why I can’t tell that all women are like that ? I don’t ever met any rapist, but all women that I ever met, were exactly like that ! So, suppose that in my life I met 2000 women, and 100 guys who said the very same about the women that they met, let’s give a change to women translating it to numbers that 99.999% are like that, and 0.0001% aren’t, did you think that worth the risk ? If 1 each 100 means that all are rapists, what 0.0001 in 100 means ?
I love how we can abuse the lack of logic on feminism !
With the divorce rate at over 50%, it’s the equivalent of offering a person a piece of chocolate from a box of chocolates, and telling them half of the chocolates are poisoned. They would never eat one of those chocolates with those odds, yet they want men to take the same risk of having their entire life destroyed by marriage because women are reaping the benefits. That’s why the only defense they have is shaming tactics, because they can’t give you a single logical reason why you should be willing to take such a s~~~ty deal.
It’s always easy to accuse somebody of cowardice when they’re taking all the risk and you’re reaping all of the rewards.
Anonymous2Very well stated. Even if only half of women are like that (a very optimistic conjecture), your marriage is still a coin toss where you stand to lose everything. Female nature hasn’t changed, but marriage was safe and beneficial once upon a time because husbands ruled their wives.
I respectfully disagree with you here brother, marriage is not a “coin toss” a coin toss gives a man a 50 % chance of winning. When you do a cost benefit analysis on marriage it is a total 100 % loss for a man.
A brief example: One of my best friends killed himself, his wife had a facebook affair 2006, 2 years after facebook was launched. He lost his daughter had to pay child support, alimony, and she was a tradcon phony, he wound up living with his parents at 41 years old. He did nothing wrong he was a really good man. Threw himself in front of an 18 wheeler! Marriage………. not a coin toss.
Excellent point. The absolute best scenario is that a man could leave a marriage with all of his s~~~ and she keeps all of her s~~~ – and the chances of that happening are as good as winning a million on a scratch-off ticket. In other words, there is no situation where he gains, he can only lose.
With the divorce rate at over 50%, it’s the equivalent of offering a person a piece of chocolate from a box of chocolates, and telling them half of the chocolates are poisoned. They would never eat one of those chocolates with those odds, yet they want men to take the same risk of having their entire life destroyed by marriage because women are reaping the benefits. That’s why the only defense they have is shaming tactics, because they can’t give you a single logical reason why you should be willing to take such a s~~~ty deal.
It’s always easy to accuse somebody of cowardice when they’re taking all the risk and you’re reaping all of the rewards.
Good point ! I was considering only their behaviour, but considering marriage, and considering that it’s a win/win for c~~~s, is suicide.
Shame tactics, saying that you must “be a man”, “don’t be a f~~~ing coward”… They don’t know limits and say things that don’t even make sense !!! Recently I’ve to deal with a mangina saying that I wasn’t married because I WASNT ABLE to please a women as he did. That discussion started because he discovered that she cheated on him, with not only me, but at least with other 5 guys from the gym. That was the most bluepill thing that I ever saw, he trying to shame language me via instant message to make me feel inferior, as he was the one that she choose to love, while trying to justify that no matter with whom she had sex, she gone home to sleep with him at night, and that what’s matter, who she really loves.
Besides divorce, you have cheating, nagging, a lot of unnecessary bills… and the list goes on and on, more problems than solutions, more nagging than blowjobs…
I think you’re doing it wrong guys.
Arguing with people about YOUR VERY PERSONAL AND INTIMATE IDEAS about marriage contract is wrong.I answer: “I have still to meet the right one”.
I cannot know if I’ll marry or not.
Perhaps a day an extremely beautiful woman with a wealth of more than a billion will begin tirelessly courtshipping me, and I could change my mind…who knows? 😀Until a woman like the above doesn’t appear, I’m not going to marry, but, as I said, it’s just because “I have still to meet the right one” – the “right one” being the one described above 😀
Ah, I’m not going to look for the “right one”, I’m minding my businesses, it have to be a random encounter 😀
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Not all snakes are poisonous. Not all mines are live. Not all sharks are going to attack.
But when a significant percentage are… and they are… and when the only way to confirm is to be poisoned, blown up or eaten… you’d be a fool to reach into a box of, stroll through a field of or dive into a pool of them.
I respectfully disagree with you here brother, marriage is not a “coin toss” a coin toss gives a man a 50 % chance of winning.
I could be mistaken, but I don’t think there’s any disagreement. The “coin toss” was a reference to about half of all marriages ending in divorce. But if a divorce happens, yeah, no coin toss: 100% loss rate for men. So approximately a 50% chance of losing everything. In fact, it’s worse than that because that doesn’t include the vast quantities of miserable couples that stay together, but that’s another topic.
Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.
Just tell the trollops and mangina monkeys that Enough Women Are Like That!
Do you want know what are the killer words?
I heard it from an Italian man.“I know that not all women are like that.
I’m pretty sure that there are many women that aren’t like that.
But, my bad, my fault, I’m not able to make a distinction between those who are like that, and those who aren’t like that.
So, I have just only a way to be sure to not to pick the wrong one.
Sorry.”😀
SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
I respectfully disagree with you here brother, marriage is not a “coin toss” a coin toss gives a man a 50 % chance of winning.
I could be mistaken, but I don’t think there’s any disagreement. The “coin toss” was a reference to about half of all marriages ending in divorce. But if a divorce happens, yeah, no coin toss: 100% loss rate for men. So approximately a 50% chance of losing everything. In fact, it’s worse than that because that doesn’t include the vast quantities of miserable couples that stay together, but that’s another topic.
ok,well stated brother we are on the same exact page.
"You can either love women or understand them, you can't do both". Truth over everything
It really can’t be said better Murph.
A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!
“Not All Women Are Like That.”
“Not All…”
Think about that for a moment. Notice how they all always say: “Not all women…” They could have said: “Most women are not like that.” But they don’t. Because they know it’s not true. It’s so obviously untrue that they know they can get away with saying it. So they always say: “Not all women…”
When a woman says: “Not All Women Are Like That,” she’s admitting that MOST OF THEM ARE.
@sidecar just beat me to it. It should be bolded for BIG emphasis. +101 stars.
NAWALT Is An Irrelevant Argument
It’s very relevant and revealing, but it’s a deflection and needs to be understood by men more carefully, because women don’t understand it themselves. We even have a fresh email thread from a “NAWALT” who outed herself within 3 exchanges so textbook perfectly , she could be the poster unicorn. More on this later when she finally stops littering our inbox for more attention.
You can’t (and shouldn’t) dismiss it as irrelevant, because you can smoke her out without even meeting her personally.
NAWALT is true.
It’s a FACT. Not all women are like that.It would be impossible that “ALL™ women are like that”. But as @murph pointed out, it doesn’t matter, because the law is like that. This is exactly the same exchange we had with the NAWALT. And then, she flatly refused to believe a human being responded to her email. A deliberate deflection away from her own NAWALT argument!
“There is just NO WAY that a human being responded to me that quickly. Just NO WAY!!!”
…. even though we quoted her words directly back to her and addressed her by name – twice. She will convince herself of ANYTHING – no matter how untrue – because the truth is not relevant to her. Arguing “NAWALT” is more relevant to her than accepting reality and when she loses that argument and encounters a man who is LIGHTYEARS ahead of her, she deflects it and pretends the email wasn’t written by a human being.
Jesus Christ.
This is why you cannot listen to their s~~~.She is not interested in understanding reality or others. She is more preoccupied with trying to change perceptions using herself as the one one shining example which negates the majority.
And because she doesn’t say “MOST women are not like that”, you can bet she already knows most of them ARE. There’s also a higher probability that she is one of them, and she did not disappoint.
A remarkable case study. More on this to come.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Do you want know what are the killer words?
I heard it from an Italian man.“I know that not all women are like that.
I’m pretty sure that there are many women that aren’t like that.
But, my bad, my fault, I’m not able to make a distinction between those who are like that, and those who aren’t like that.
So, I have just only a way to be sure to not to pick the wrong one.
Sorry.”?
This is a brilliant quote, filing this away for later use. Thank you, Eric.
And you’re dead on, Murph. Even if most women weren’t like that — if, say, 75% of all women were NAWALT — we’d still be dealing with a demographic of females permanently ruining the lives of men at a rate thousands of times that of the rape “crisis” that every woman and her unshaven feminist counterpart continues to bitch about.
Society holds a f~~~ing rally for every rape or domestic abuse victim and treats all men like they’re one bad day away from brutalizing a woman, all because less than 5% of men are guilty of doing it themselves (if not even considerably less than that, if we were to account for serial rapists/abusers and mutual abuse). So, even if we notched it down to a 25% chance a woman would drive you to suicide, take away your children, imprison you falsely, and take you for every dime you have, you still have better luck playing Russian Roulette, and you can actually win money at that and spend a portion on a hooker without even needing to worry about the pretense of a date.
And f~~~ every woman who does, openly, live in abject fear of being alone at night for what less than 1% of men will do them, but turns around to shame us for awareness of how monstrous women are in the broad light of day.
At best, NAWALT is an irrelevant argument for hypocrites who are blind to the destruction women wreak.
At worst, it is openly advocating for sending men to early, bitter graves — solely to sate the greed and selfishness of women.
I’m not sure which is the more despicable.
"Almost the main work of life is to come out of our selves, out of the little dark prison we are all born in... The danger is that of coming to love the prison." ~ C.S. Lewis
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