NASA's prediction of the end of civilization

[Enjoy The DeclineParticipant 1719]

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“By investigating the human-nature dynamics of these past cases of collapse, the project identifies the most salient interrelated factors which explain civilisational decline, and which may help determine the risk of collapse today: namely, Population, Climate, Water, Agriculture, and Energy.

These factors can lead to collapse when they converge to generate two crucial social features: “the stretching of resources due to the strain placed on the ecological carrying capacity”; and “the economic stratification of society into Elites [rich] and Masses (or “Commoners”) [poor]” These social phenomena have played “a central role in the character or in the process of the collapse,” in all such cases over “the last five thousand years.””

Also, there is a video in this site’s video archive that talks about what might happen in the future more in how the end of civilization might happen(I even set the video to run off to a certain part so that there would be less fluff in what I am trying to point out for time saving reasons):

So overall, what should we think about all this?

"Question everything" - Albert Einstein

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

I agree that in the next twenty years, we could be looking at a social and economic crisis.

Governmental spending is out of control.
Men are being devalued socially, economically, in the family unit, politically, etc.

When comparing the “beautiful ones” in the mouse utopia experiment, and MGTOW/Herbivores I can see the parallels but don’t necessarily agree that is the complete answer. Mankind is intelligent and can prognosticate the future based upon past trends and empirical evidence. MGTOW/Herbivore is a conscious choice, brought about from, not just social pressure, but a desire to be happy and successful. The mice in the experiment may not have been happy, and they definitely could not be called ‘successful’ within their own society.

Towards the end of my marriage, I would go in to the guest bedroom and lock the door and refuse to admit my wife. My marriage counselor called this “run and hide” and that he could understand this desire based upon the way she treated me. I wanted my own particular zone where I wanted to find peace. On micro and macro scale, this could be used as an allegory to describe MGTOW/Herbivore. We are “locking our doors” so to speak to achieve a degree of peace and enrichment. To do this, those that would seek to gain emotional, psychological, and financial preeminence have to be excluded. To guarantee results, all females are omitted. It isn’t a protest, or an attempt to send a message. MGTOW men still interact with women on a social level. By my mind this is more of attempt to satisfy the need for some actual flesh during sexual activity. But the fembots will solve that in the future.

I’m not a MGHOW because I have been socially rejected, suffer from a mental disorder, find society too hostile, or am dissatisfied with women. I am a MGHOW because I have found a degree of peace and prosperity that I haven’t found before.

I have moved towards something, not away from something.

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I believe that this is supported by the data that indicates that men’s relative happiness has increased while women’s relative happiness has decreased over the last 30 years.

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Enjoy The Decline wrote:

namely, Population,

Easily solved by stupid little girls keeping their knees together.

Instead we pay them a monthly check for having children they, and eventually we, cannot support.

Climate,

Easily solved by reducing population to sustainable levels. Which is easily done by stupid little girls keeping their knees together.

Water,

Easily solved by reducing population to sustainable levels. Which is easily done by stupid little girls keeping their knees together.

Agriculture,

Easily solved by reducing population to sustainable levels. Which is easily done by stupid little girls keeping their knees together.

and Energy.

Easily solved by reducing population to sustainable levels. Which is easily done by stupid little girls keeping their knees together.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22521]

This is real simple to understand. When those that do not produce get the carrot, and those that do produce get the stick. Production and continuation of civilization comes to a halt and collapses.

[The_YoungParticipant 1073]

We’re eventually gonna just go back to sticks and stones. Back when things were much simpler for men. Eat. Sleep. S~~~. Provide for women and get emotionally nurtured in return because they have no actual alternative.

Brother, we need to stick together.

[bob__Participant 946]

The_Young wrote:

We’re eventually gonna just go back to sticks and stones. Back when things were much simpler for men. Eat. Sleep. S~~~. Provide for women and get emotionally nurtured in return because they have no actual alternative.

Humans aren’t as smart as they think they are. That’s all every other species of animal does. The only real reason anybody has to “work” is to support other people!

[HitmanParticipant]

The_Young wrote:

Fed, F~~~ed, Appreciated. The three simple things men want, but women will never grasp.

i call it, eat, sleep and f~~~. hahaha!!

bob__ wrote:

The only real reason anybody has to “work” is to support other people!

if only someone would get up and work for me..
i worked for myself.to support myself.
then after the legal system stepped in i work to support a child.
but prior to that i STILL had to work to pay my own way..sorry dude..
……………………………………………………………..we are “the beautiful one’s” !
i liked the video very much and the parallels are startling !

[Dr. SableParticipant 1064]

Enjoy The Decline wrote:

So overall, what should we think about all this?

You Asked

Nothing less than a new world order but not like what elites want.
Pre dominance of patriarchy a must. Laws that do not change, get abolished or watered down.

Reduce population by 90%
Keep population down by use of combat so only smartest and strongest survive of both sexes.

Science to be given priority over all other development but not to exclude them.
Revitalizing nature in order to have an endless supply of resources when minerals run out.

Soon our options will not be available so a new radical way of thinking will have to be adopted
or we will die out. Sadly too much of population world wide is too stupid and chicken s~~~ to
realize that we can not survive on good feelings, fairness and what we know as morality and other
soft c~~~ issues that plague us.

Like triage on a war front. You just cant save everyone and not all are for saving.

Zero Tolerance

[Al BundyParticipant 245]

I might be a bastard in this respect, but I have no concern about what happens after I’m dead. No matter how bad it is, extinction of the species or whatever, it won’t affect me…because I’ll be dead. So my approach is that every generation has its own problems to face, and while we shouldn’t recklessly lob grenades into the future, most of the dire forecasts are not anything we should be wasting our time and energy worrying about. Population is too high, but the growth rate seems to be slowing everywhere. Energy is abundant, it’s just f~~~tard leftist politicians want to create artificial crises over non-existent environment problems (mostly for purposes of control and to benefit cronies). Water and agriculture are non-issues due to abundant energy and possibly beneficial global warming that expands arable land. Don’t worry too much about climate. Humans have essentially zero effect on it, and it has done nothing but change over the eons, according to the geologic records. We simply have to adapt and move production accordingly. If we get rid of the dips~~~ leftists in global governance and use the resources available while allowing markets to drive innovation, the future is bright for a very long time ahead. But none of us will be here to see it anyway, so

[W]e are MGTOW. We eat shaming language like tic tacs.

--chir

I have known more men destroyed by the desire to have wife and child and to keep them in comfort than I have seen destroyed by drink and harlots.

--William Butler Yeats

[ShinyParticipant 2307]

This is nothing to do with population growth, otherwise MGTOW would have arisen in China or India, not the west. The trigger in this example was, “all social roles being taken”. I would suggest this is more likely the issue: the post feminist world does not have clear roles for men and women since rather than supporting each other, men and women are now expected to compete with each other on a playing field massively biased toward women.

For anyone who didn’t watch the video, the results of the experiment truly were both frightening and familiar. Massive overcrowding around day 315, last pregnancy at day 600. Here’s what he says (so good I typed it out):

“This period between day 315 and day 600 saw a breakdown in social structure and in normal social behaviour. Among the abberations were the following: expulsion of young before weaning was complete, wounding of young, inability of dominant males to maintain the defense of their territory and females, passivity of non-dominant males with increased attacks on each other which were not defended against. After day 600, the social breakdown continued and the population declined toward extinction. During this period females ceased to reproduce. Their male counterparts withdrew completely, never engaging in courtship or fighting. They ate, drank, slept and groomed themselves. Sleek, healthy coats and an absence of scars characterised these males. They were dubbed the “beautiful ones”. Breeding never resumed and behaviour patters were permanently changed.”

And, just to be thorough: “the social organisation of the animals showed equal disruption… the mice became more promiscuous… mice would roam around attacking others or mounting them irrespective of gender”.

Isn’t that a description of where we are now? The abortion holocaust, maternal abusiveness, female aggressiveness, manginas and SJWs, the explosion of homosexuality, and finally us “beautiful ones” walking away.

Mankind is not doomed – we have the ability to adapt via technology – but damn that is a wakeup call. Also worth noting that he replicated the experiment with other animals like rats and got the same result.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

This reminds me of a verse from a song of one russian underground poet/singer:

В неволе умирает зверьё
В неволе погибает трава
Но человечеству гибель не грозит
Человек привыкает ко всему

In captivity perish animals
In captivity perish plants
But there is no threat to humankind-
Men can get used to anything

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[bob__Participant 946]

Hitman wrote:

if only someone would get up and work for me..
i worked for myself.to support myself.
then after the legal system stepped in i work to support a child.
but prior to that i STILL had to work to pay my own way..sorry dude..
……………………………………………………………..we are “the beautiful one’s” !
i liked the video very much and the parallels are startling !

That’s funny. Most animals don’t need money. What the hell is money anyway? It’s for slaves. While you work for “money”, other people literally print as much money as they want!

[Anonymous 42]

[BritGHOWParticipant 2566]

Shiny wrote:

…Breeding never resumed and behaviour patters were permanently changed…

This more than anything else is what is scaring the tradcons to death, they know that men once freed from the chains of a gynocentric society and exposed to the life that is available to them outside of that society will never willingly return to it.

[Anonymous 12]

Population is easily fixed, the West needs to stop importing so many people who go on to make more people while they are there. Again the West needs to back right off and let nations that are failing – fail. So many people are being kept alive despite nature and the stupidity of their leaders and themselves wanting to wipe themselves out.

I know that sounds ultra cruel but do you want to fix it or what?

Climate. The weather fluctuates, I’m not convinced that we are really experiencing climate change. But if we are them drop the politics around it. Also less people would help and let nature take back these countries when the people are left to dwindle.

Water and Agriculture – again less people.

Energy, less people, less energy being consumed. Again stop playing politics and come up with better options. I find it hard to believe we can’t replace oil for example to fuel cars.

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