My Way- A (hopefully) Short introduction ;-)

[GraybeardParticipant 61]

Hey guys, such an amazing thing to have someone to talk to. With all the men’s clubs and groups disappearing, at least we can type back and forth to each other for support.

I am married, no children. She is not a demanding woman, but has managed to soak up a lot of my money over the 20ish years we’ve been together. She works full time, always has. We are pretty equal in assets as her parents bought us the new house we live in (we bought the land). She’s still a good roommate. Probably would go Honey Badger if she knew the truth about men’s rights. Still…

I worry about the fact that she could devastate me. Take all my labors and leave me on the street. I would survive, of course, but, my life is good as is.

I semi-retired last year at 48 when I was forced out of a job held for 15 years. I added up all the assets and retirement while sitting around unemployed. Discovered I had planned everything so well and created a budget so small, part time work was enough.

I drive school bus now and love the free time it allows me. Three hours a day and paid for four. Cameras on the bus give me protection and the company appreciates my work (bus drivers are hard to find!). I ride my bicycle to work saving on vehicle expenses and eat at home more. I’ve collected enough toys over the years to soak up my new found extra free time. Naps after lunch are amazing.

I spent the last several years drinking a fair amount. It caught up with me, messing up my health a bit. When I started driving bus, it gave me the excuse to cut back, clearing my mind to figure out why I was using alcohol so much.

Spent some time thinking and reading before finding the truth about men’s rights and then, MGTOW. Click, now I have some answers.

Being at home is at best uncomfortable. I call her the Curator of the Museum. That description should give you a proper idea of the house. Clean, everything in its place and matching. I keep a small pile of my own stuff in a hidden corner which gets smaller all the time. She got rid of my recliner a couple years ago so she could get the big corner couch. We each have a side, but it’s not comfortable to me…
Just made the decision to take over the spare bedroom for my den (It is her office now and won’t be needed with her new job). I hate basements and refuse to spend time there, so den it is. Should work easily, her father has one.

After about 10 years, she lost interest in sex. I’m not one to expect a ‘piece’, so just got used to none. She put about a hundred pounds since we met, but has been losing it slowly for the last couple of years and should continue as her new job is physical giving her lots of ‘steps’. Since I have been participating less in most husband type things, she has been noticing. Not going to predict or expect anything, just stay the course for now.

Like I said earlier, I did a bit of drinking and partying over the last few years. Never jumped the fence (not for lack of aggressive women chasing), just wasn’t worth the price. Alcohol brought new acquaintances, a couple almost friends, but no one to talk to about my little problems.

So, having no kids, paid off possessions and an easy going wife, I feel pretty good about my little kingdom. Unfairness still awaits outside the walls and must be dealt with as we need to continue to be part of society which provides some protections for our kingdoms.

Looking forward to being a part of the movement in our own direction.

Thanks for listening,
Graybeard

[MACHOParticipant]

Good intro, Enjoy the Forums Graybeard

Graybeard wrote:

I worry about the fact that she could devastate me. Take all my labors and leave me on the street. I would survive, of course,

Graybeard wrote:

I keep a small pile of my own stuff in a hidden corner which gets smaller all the time. She got rid of my recliner a couple years ago

Graybeard wrote:

After about 10 years, she lost interest in sex. I’m not one to expect a ‘piece’, so just got used to none.

Graybeard wrote:

Unfairness still awaits outside the walls and must be dealt with as we need to continue to be part of society which provides some protections for our kingdoms

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[OldBillParticipant]

Welcome to the forums, brother. That is a great introduction.

Graybeard wrote:

After about 10 years, she lost interest in sex.

That’s when she first began cheating on you.

Apart from a few medical and psychiatric conditions, women don’t lose interest in sex. On average, women are more promiscuous and have more sexual partners than men do. She lost interest in having sex with you, she didn’t lose interest in having sex.

Here’s the other indicator:

She put about a hundred pounds since we met, but has been losing it slowly for the last couple of years and should continue as her new job is physical giving her lots of ‘steps’.

She’s been losing weight for her current and/or recent lovers.

While the $64 dollar question is why she hasn’t divorced you yet, it doesn’t really need to be answered. She will divorce you in the future so you need to start right planning now.

An investigator may be a good investment. The courts are stacked against you, but proof of adultery might dial back some of the systemic gynocentrism you’ll face.

Good luck.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[BigvernParticipant 1983]

Welcome Graybeard, Great Intro,……

"What made you think, there'd be a livin' in sheep?, Eat, Work, Eat Work and Sleep" - Mark Knopfler.

[ghostParticipant]

Welcome Graybeard. Enjoy the forums.

[Anonymous 3]

Good Luck with all that!

[No CountryParticipant 759]

Welcome Brother!

[OneLaneOnlyPlsParticipant 1747]

Great intro Graybeard. You are among friends here.

I think OldBill hit the nail on the head. Whilst the system is indeed rigged against you, perhaps you need to think whats more important to you?

Stay in a loveless, sexless marriage, and be used.

OR

Be free.

Right now you don’t really have any benefits of being married.

[Anonymous 0]

If she is losing her wait now…be careful! Here are some paragraphs I found in the internet about hot wives

“A good way is to spot change in her appearance. The prime focus of a hot-wife is expressing her sexuality in all manners, from the type of shoes she wears to the way she shaves her pussy. A hot-wife wears tight fitting clothes as much as she can. She wears short skirts, perfume, and high-heels all the time. She does her hair and wears makeup daily. At night she wears sexy lingerie. She goes to the gym often. When she goes to the grocery store she doesn’t wear underwear. If she start doing thing like these, not only will she be sending a signal to her husband that she have changed, but she’ll be sending a signal to other men.”

Here is why lost her interest in sex

“Many, MANY women promise free sex on demand for life. Then the second they get that ring everything changes.”

“Marriage is society’s way to harness a male to provide shelter and nice surroundings for the offspring and their mother. It is not meant for the well-being of the man.”

” Within every woman on this planet, regardless of her education or
background, is a bitch, a c~~~, a slut, a gold-digger, a flake, a cheater, a backstabber, a narcissist, and an attention whore that is dying to get out and that, if certain conditions arise and this, I’m afraid, is the true nature of women.”

“Hanging around a woman constantly without having sex ultimately puts you at worse status than a f~~~ buddy; she put you in the “friend zone”.”

“When she senses I am losing interest — mostly due to frustration and a sense of wasted time — she turns up the heat to keep me breaking orbit. When I’m drawn back in, she slams the gates shut and raises the drawbridge again — with me outside, frustrated and wasting my time again.”

“It comes down to the fact that it is hard work, and most women in the westernized world have never had to dedicate themselves to that extent; they typically have gotten whatever they’ve wanted by whining about it loudly enough for a man to hear and help out. Another part of it is, again, women are used to getting whatever they want and not having to make compromises. When you’re raised like that, with a western sense of entitlement only exacerbated by feminism telling women they can have it all, why WOULDN’T you believe you should be able to eat a lot, not exercise, and still be attractive to the other gender?”

[GraybeardParticipant 61]

Thanks for all the replies guys.

I am certainly keeping my eye on what going on and working on plans for outcomes you have brought up along with my own thoughts on possible futures. I am going to work on what will be best for me within the present situation and hope she will do the dumbest thing and just leave for better pastures. While I would hate having to move, I’ll keep it as a possibility and have a plan in place. It would be nice to have one less person to take care of (Mom is 82 and lives nearby and yes, I am a dutiful son).
For now the wife is going to get the Galt and will be dealing with me doing things how I want.

Anonymous wrote:

If she is losing her weight now…be careful! Here are some paragraphs I found in the internet about hot wives

While she is cute and with weight loss and some toning, noticeable. I couldn’t call her hot wife. Doesn’t mean she wouldn’t go for a bigger better deal, just less likely to get the rich guys attention.
On that note, she went through menopause early and is now through it at 48. Any information on post menopausal women and their sex drive? (I’ll post that question in the proper forum).

Think I’ll go nap in the hammock and contemplate the future,

Yours in brotherhood,
Graybeard

[GraybeardParticipant 61]

A little update Brothers,
I’m sitting here in my new den, in a new leather recliner surrounded by many of my favorite things. The weather station says it’s 80°F in here.
She relented after two weeks of silence and gave an inch. I took a mile and left her perplexed when I didn’t say thank you.
I’ve got more plans in the works and will do another update if needed.

Yours in Brotherhood,
Graybeard

[AttonParticipant]

It will be interesting to see how all of it goes down the line.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[PrincekieParticipant 1042]

Interesting introduction.

Ask yourself this question: why are you still married? I think you would be doing yourself, and your wife, a favour if you wasn’t.

What does your wife want? That’s what I would be asking myself…

[CombatRollParticipant 2594]

@graybeard I’m worried for you.

You sound like you are semi OK with this predicament that you are in, but what worries me is what is going on in your wife’s head.

I think you should do some heavy duty snooping. VAR under her car seat, snoop her phone and her computer.

If in fact she is just as settled in as you are then I guess you could “exist” the way you are if that is fulfilling to you.

If I may ask: Are you happy just existing with a menial job that is not too taxing or stressful which allows you to have your hobbies and toys? If so, I get it. Who wants to re-enter the rat race and deal with stress and douchebags all day?

My two cents is most women would NOT be ok with their man working a part time job while she works full time. Women are about money.

Again, I’m just worried that she is scheming to take off and screw you over as she walks out the door.

Please check into her phone, email, etc and place a VAR where you can here what is going on with her.

Good Luck

[GraybeardParticipant 61]

Hey Brothers,
It is good to have others to question my thoughts and actions. Thank you.

As far as the marriage, it feels just financial for me really. We are still good roommates (I’ve had my share of them). If it was just me, I probably would have to work more to pay bills. So, it is to my financial advantage to stay with her.
For her, she needs me around for fixing things and security. Things I would have to do with or without her. So, that feels like awash.

As far as her outside activities, I am a ham radio guy and have had a GPS tracker in the car for 12 years. Her destinations are work, the Mall and a little just wandering drives.

As far as work, I do like my easy part time work. I have time to do what I want and enough money to enjoy the time.

I set the budget to be split between us, she doesn’t have to work any harder than I do, she is choosing to have more money (she likes to spend it).

I think things are going my way by my design. I’ve decided sex isn’t worth the price after reading many experiences on the forums and the ultimate prices paid for it. This gives me the power in my marriage to decide what I’m willing to do. If she wants out or to fool around, so be it. I’m ready for either or neither.

My den continues to get better, the ‘noise’ of ham radio, music and my choice of videos fill the room. Even got my Mothers post-war German Coo Coo clock noisily tick tocking away.

Yours in Brotherhood,
Graybeard

[EscapedMentalPatientParticipant 1489]

Arrrrrrr, Graybeard. Have ye ever been to sea, laddie.

Welcome, brother; may this place take you to a path of enlightenment, and may your future be in your control and your control only, sir.

Cheers.

[OldschoolParticipant 2481]

Great intro, I would suggest stashing a little bit of cash money away just in case. $20 a week for a year or two can help you out if the s~~~ hits the fan.

Get a vasectomy.

[GraybeardParticipant 61]

One year later…

I am doing better than I expected. Plan is intact and working.

I sit in my den, surrounded by the crazy, non feminine things we guys like to have. I am even more retired only needing about a grand a year for my budget bills. Still driving school bus, but spending every penny on my whims (3 new high end custom bicycles so far this year). Shopping for a new motorcycle for next season (paying cash of course). I always have enough cash to pay my next year’s expenses.

I am still doing the household finances (same as ‘I’ mow the lawn). She pays her bills on time and continues to be a good roommate. We tend to order delivery (pizza, sandwiches, chinese, ect), she pays more often than I do. Mostly, I make my own food and we don’t eat together.

She is happily doing overtime shifts, doesn’t say anything about me not giving her presents and equally acknowledging her birthday and our anniversary (I actually forgot this year, mostly because I, retired guy, didn’t know what day it was that day)

I go days without speaking to her or her seeming to want to say anything to me.

I will remain on this plan. It allows me to be retired and have all this room and property at my disposal. If I was on my own, rent ect would a much higher expense and isn’t a logical move. I keep the backup plan in my head and at the ready. Either way, I get my way and will continue to enjoy life, Going My Own Way.

Yours in brotherhood,
Graybeard

[Anonymous 12]

“Good Game”!

How would all of this be if you still chased a piece of A**?
Not the same.
*Applause*

[Vajra VarahaParticipant 1284]

Well….I’m going to take a different approach here than the rest.

First, why are you really here? You describe no apparent experience that has actually red pilled you, unless I missed it. I am on my phone and my eyes are tired. I accept that the pain isn’t necessary but it tends to be a common thread for men who profess MGTOW.

Second, You indicate being here because you have a fear about your finances if she divorces you. But you describe a productive contributing wife. Makes me think you are concerned about losing YOUR paycheck. Her parents bought the house. She pays most of the bills. You clearly could be more productive but are choosing to be a less productive partner.

Third, she’s the one losing weight and trying to improve her circumstances. How fat did your drunk ass get with all the booze and napping. We’re you thumb sucking too? Cause it’s a two way street. Maybe she lost her desire for sex cause she put on 100 pounds. Maybe she lost interest cause you put on 100 pounds. Maybe your testosterone dropped and your going thru male menopause. You sound like your ovaries are shrinking….

Sorry guys but I’m calling bulls~~~. This guy seems to be trying to blame his wife for his choices. I really hope there’s more to this story cause it sounds like you’re latching on to the MGTOW label to justify your own bulls~~~. So are you full of s~~~ or am I missing something here? I expect a gold digging wife to stay with a husband for finances. Not a MGTOW.

Now I’m p~~~ed cause I had to give credit to this donuts wife.

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