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Hey, guys! I’ve been lurking on this website for a while now, and finally wanted to join in. I’m 17 (it’s my birthday today, but I’ll get to that in a minute), and in my last year of high school, and I found out about MGTOW when I was 16.
Now, to put it bluntly, my mom is a c~~~ and a bitch. Now, I’ll spare the details for a later post, but as I grew older, our relationship worsened. She’s a terrible human being, and I sincerely wish from the bottom of my heart I never had her as my mother. Not only is she oppressing and dictatorial, but she puts on a mask that fools everyone around her. She speaks in a Caribbean accent (my family is from there) complains about her being tired due to her chronic fatigue. I’ve tried to put up with it, but no more. I’m tired of trying to reason with her. I’m tired of the manipulation and lies.
Recently, I strongly considered dropping out of high school due to the fact that it was draining me of my energy, I didn’t have the time in order to program for fun. When I told her, she got extremely upset, and said that, and I quote: “The only two ways for you to get out of going to high school is to run away from home, or commit suicide.” Here are some other gems from her:
“If I could do it all over again, I would have gotten an abortion.”
“He doesn’t know what he wants.”
“You make my life miserable.”
“We should take him to the Behavioral Center and have him drugged up on medicine.Now these are only a snippet of what she has said. When I tell others about what she said, they refuse to believe it or try to defend her actions. More violent encounters would see her yelling at me, slamming the door and locking it without giving me the opportunity to talk to her or retrieve my items, throwing things at me… on one occasion, she attacked me by swinging her fists. She’s also kicked me before, and she then has the gall to tell everyone around her that “she doesn’t know why hate her.” Pure insanity.
Just today, she ordered me to go to school on my own birthday, even though years’ past, she would let me stay home and celebrate. Ignoring her, I stayed home from school and relaxed. She was extremely bitter about this, and told me that I had ruined my own birthday as if I had gone to school (be a slave to her commands) she would have taken me out to lunch, and we would’ve gone home to cut the cake sitting on our dining room table. Later, she offered me lunch, and I rejected her offer by throwing my clothes at her, calling her out on her behavior, and heading back to my room to finish my post. Childish, but necessary to ease my mind. Looks like I’m going hungry tonight.
Now, I won’t go further into detail, simply for the fact that I’d like to keep some things private, and I’m currently going to school counseling for my suicidal thoughts, anxiety, and social ineptitude (I’ve struggled with this ever since the 5th grade, and it hasn’t gone away). I’m still very shy, and even attempt to avoid going out in public due to the fact that I may struggle with my anxiety. I try to treat everyone I meet with respect and friendliness, and even hold the door for passersby as they walk in for fun (it allows me to think and reflect, plus I see it as something needed in a world of hatred and anguish), but no more. The next school meeting I have, I’m going to let it all out and see where it goes from there.
My dad is no different. He white knights for her whenever I try to defend myself, and physically attacks me. Admittedly, I’ve instigated most of the conflicts acting on the anger induced by what she has done, but now I just see it as pointless. It’s just despondency at this point, and I doubt things will change. I despise violence and conflict in any form, and most of the time I just get angry and go in my room. I flare up sometimes, but I stay to myself more and more these days.
Ever since going MGTOW, I’ve seen women as less and less appealing to me, and I find it’s better to stay single and out of the dating scene. Nikola Tesla was celibate throughout his life, and I believe that is the right choice for me. In a plan I made to guide on my journey to becoming great, I even wrote this: “Chase knowledge, not women. Chase math and science rather than pleasure and sin.” At the end of the day, I view women as a forbidden fruit; tempting to eat, but ultimately meaningless in the grand scheme of things, and regretful depending on the type of fruit.
Once I’m done with everything this school year, I’m gone off to college. I don’t have anything, but I think my merit (I’m going to take the ACT and SATSTs again, aiming for a perfect score. I got a 21 on the ACT the first time and a 25 the second time, but this time, I’m going for a perfect, if not high score in the 99th percentile.) should be able to help me live comfortably, while I’m studying. MIT and Caltech are great choices, but ETH Zurich has recently enamored me, since I want the luxury of going to a renowned college, getting a quality education in Mathematics and Computer Science, and graduating with little to no debt, and going off to begin my journey in changing the world as a programmer. I have roughly 13 colleges I want to apply to, but I think I’ll focus on studying abroad in order to save on tuition. I’ve read all about the late Steve Jobs and Bill Gates; their rivalry, their influence. I want to do something as significant as they did and change the world for the better, aiding humanity on our quest to the stars and Heavens above.
I’m always open to private messages, so feel free to shoot me one about anything; I’ll try to respond as soon as possible, and hopefully I can make a lot of friends here. đ
A big thank you to:
TFM, Sandman, MGTOW 101, Raging Golden Eagle, and MGTOW HYBRiD in particular for waking me up and changing my life.
The MGTOW community as a whole for being influential in my life.
The creators of this awesome website; I’ve got some of the greatest advice I’ve ever had here.You guys have helped in a way that I will never be able to repay. I hope to give back with my insight on women and everything within the manosphere and become active on this site. MGTOW forever! đ
"Our virtues and our failings are inseparable, like force and matter. When they separate, man is no more." -Nikola Tesla
Welcome! Thank you for opening up – you are amongst kindred spirits here. We speak openly and share many life experiences that can help our brothers. Look forward to reading more from you. Cheers!
Thanks, Truthseeker82! I hope to learn a lot from being here, and maybe give my own advice as well! đ
"Our virtues and our failings are inseparable, like force and matter. When they separate, man is no more." -Nikola Tesla
You are 17 and technically still a minor.
You are taking the hard road of life. You are 17 and full of self righteous indignation.
Your rage is all over the place.
Does your parents keep a roof over your head?
Do you have food to eat?You stayed home from school because it was your birthday?
You aren’t going to do what your mom tells you?
Know one is going to tell you what to do?
Sorry. You definitely didn’t grow up in my generation. And you are really lucky you didn’t have my father growing up.
My perception is that your problem is a maturity issue.
Your parents have their hands full. Sounds like your in control.
Good luck
Peace brothers

Anonymous16Welcome.
Im 32 i tough i was smart and had everything solved, then i learned i was just starting, and now i understand that i dont know or understand s~~~.
Its good you are aiming for a career try your best, but if in any case you dont make it, remember at least you tried.
Im a tesla fan too đ
About suicidal toughs… been there, and yes they stop once i went MOW.
Good luck kid.You are 17 and technically still a minor.
You are taking the hard road of life. You are 17 and full of self-righteous indignation.
Your rage is all over the place.
Does your parents keep a roof over your head?
Do you have food to eat?You stayed home from school because it was your birthday?
You arenât going to do what your mom tells you?
Know one is going to tell you what to do?
Sorry. You definitely didnât grow up in my generation. And you are really lucky you didnât have my father growing up.
My perception is that your problem is a maturity issue.
Your parents have their hands full. Sounds like your in control.
Good luck
You’re right, Darksith. Maybe I do have a problem with maturity. My parents are awful, and it took me a long time to get to where I am now. For God’s sake, I couldn’t even tie my shoe until I was 12.
My parents do provide for me, but once I turn 18, I have to join the Army or enroll in college, no exceptions. I wish I had your father, to be honest with you. I wish I had any other father than the one I have now. Mine isn’t the greatest. đ
Aside from my rebellion, they control me for the most part. I want to leave, but after I graduate from high school. Thank you for setting me straight. đ
"Our virtues and our failings are inseparable, like force and matter. When they separate, man is no more." -Nikola Tesla
Welcome.
Im 32 i tough i was smart and had everything solved, then i learned i was just starting, and now i understand that i dont know or understand s~~~.
Its good you are aiming for a career try your best, but if in any case you dont make it, remember at least you tried.
Im a tesla fan too
About suicidal toughs⌠been there, and yes they stop once i went MOW.
Good luck kid.Thanks, Hueguen! I’ve also realized that I have a lot to learn, but that only gets me more excited for what I have yet to learn. đ
"Our virtues and our failings are inseparable, like force and matter. When they separate, man is no more." -Nikola Tesla
Welcome,education is important,you’ve got a free roof
over your head,take advantage of it,use your
intelligence to finish Uni,then when you land a
good job-move out,because if you think your
parents are tough on you,they are nothing
compared to how strangers will treat a kid
that moves out on his own too early.
Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!
Welcome,education is important,youâve got a free roof
over your head,take advantage of it,use your
intelligence to finish Uni,then when you land a
good job-move out,because if you think your
parents are tough on you,they are nothing
compared to how strangers will treat a kid
that moves out on his own too early.
Thanks, Tuneout. I actually plan to move out once I finish high school and enroll at a prestigious college, whether it be abroad or here in the US. I should be able to get an internship while I’m in school. đ
"Our virtues and our failings are inseparable, like force and matter. When they separate, man is no more." -Nikola Tesla
Welcome home brother.
No offense, but are we are we allowing minors to join? I can’t remember.
Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.
From the mgtow forum guidelines:
⢠By using the forum(s) you are declaring yourself to be a man of at least 18 years of age.
I’d like to welcome you Mysterious Man, but this is the rule.
Welcome home brother.
No offense, but are we are we allowing minors to join? I canât remember.
From the mgtow forum guidelines:
⢠By using the forum(s) you are declaring yourself to be a man of at least 18 years of age.
Iâd like to welcome you Mysterious Man, but this is the rule.
Thanks, Jan and Tiga! When I talked to the moderators, they said that being 18 was only a guideline and not a strictly enforced rule. I’m still not sure if it’s okay, but since I’m pretty much an adult (hopefully go to work and earn a salary) I would say it’s okay. I’m sorry if I’ve caused any confusion. đ
"Our virtues and our failings are inseparable, like force and matter. When they separate, man is no more." -Nikola Tesla
Mysterious Man wrote to us before he joined – asked politely – and gets BIG respect for that. There are adults who are not as respectful or courteous, so I would still tip my hat to the guy.
We can’t FORCE an age restriction (just like we can’t FORCE anything really). There is no adult content here so he won’t see anything here that he wouldn’t see on facebook – except a pro-male opinion. We explained to him clearly that he’s not really in a position to “GoHisOwnWay” (or assume full agency over himself ) but he posted so he understands it.
@MysteriousMan Thank you so much for your intro and expressing your gratitude to those in the community whom you learned from. I didn’t have it as tough as you when I was 17. It was still…. “fun”. So if you get something of value out of being here and it makes you FEEL GOOD, then you’re welcome.
If it doesn’t feel good , or right , or fit you well …. then step back.
It is a fact that at least 90% of the s~~~ you are going to read in newspapers and see on TV news is a false fabrication or twisted version only presented as they want it to be seen. You should approach the internet in exactly the same way. Every single thing you read online should be regarded as something that will yield long-term negative outcomes.
If you approach it like that, then what you take with you (and hold closely) is something that you feel you need for whatever reason.
See my avatar?
“I don’t know. I’m making this up as I go.”
– Indiana JonesThe smarter you get, the more you realize you don’t know s~~~.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Youâre right, Darksith. Maybe I do have a problem with maturity. My parents are awful, and it took me a long time to get to where I am now. For Godâs sake, I couldnât even tie my shoe until I was 12.
Thank you for taking my statement as constructive criticism. I only know what I am reading about you in your post.
Your response sounds like you do understand the parental aspect pretty well. I am sorry that your parents are how you describe.
This seems to be something that society is seeing a lot now. Typically, arises when a single mom is raising a son. You really seem to lack a strong male role model.
Truly mean good luck to you and hopefully you can get some valuable advice here.
Peace brothers

Anonymous42Welcome Mysterious Man, only 17? That’s all right, my father started letting me drive him home when I was 14, so by all rights in my realm you’re an adult and a man! I like the way you emailed Keymaser for permission, a real touch of class!
You’re not only welcome here, you belong here!
Welcome Mysterious. You will be treated as a man here in these forums. Your knowledge will increase, your skin will thicken, your b~~~~ will grow, your brain will be washed with testosterone, and your eyes will open. Wide.
When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.
Mysterious Man wrote to us before he joined â asked politely â and gets BIG respect for that. There are adults who are not as respectful or courteous, so I would still tip my hat to the guy.
We canât FORCE an age restriction (just like we canât FORCE anything really). There is no adult content here so he wonât see anything here that he wouldnât see on facebook â except a pro-male opinion. We explained to him clearly that heâs not really in a position to âGoHisOwnWayâ (or assume full agency over himself ) but he posted so he understands it.
@MysteriousMan Thank you so much for your intro and expressing your gratitude to those in the community whom you learned from. I didnât have it as tough as you when I was 17. It was stillâŚ. âfunâ. So if you get something of value out of being here and it makes you FEEL GOOD, then youâre welcome.
If it doesnât feel good , or right , or fit you well âŚ. then step back.
It is a fact that at least 90% of the s~~~ you are going to read in newspapers and see on TV news is a false fabrication or twisted version only presented as they want it to be seen. You should approach the internet in exactly the same way. Every single thing you read online should be regarded as something that will yield long-term negative outcomes.
If you approach it like that, then what you take with you (and hold closely) is something that you feel you need for whatever reason.
See my avatar?
âI donât know. Iâm making this up as I go.â
â Indiana JonesThe smarter you get, the more you realize you donât know s~~~.
Thanks, Keymaster! I wanted to be sure if it was ok; I’m overwhelmed by the support I’m receiving. I’ve learned more here than I have in school; I want to learn as much as I can, and hopefully get some advice to take with me for the rest of my life.
My morals are pretty set in stone; my beliefs have been shaped ever since I was young and was exposed to what I saw. I’ve gotten so good at recognizing fallacies and hypocrisy that I can just turn on the TV and call out their facts and figures.
I’ve always wanted to get my IQ tested; I’m not sure what my score is. I’ve wanted to be in gifted classes and enroll in Mensa; since I’m going through an evaluation by the school, I’ll hopefully find out soon enough. It should be noted that the council is entirely comprised of women. đ
"Our virtues and our failings are inseparable, like force and matter. When they separate, man is no more." -Nikola Tesla
Youâre right, Darksith. Maybe I do have a problem with maturity. My parents are awful, and it took me a long time to get to where I am now. For Godâs sake, I couldnât even tie my shoe until I was 12.
Thank you for taking my statement as constructive criticism. I only know what I am reading about you in your post.
Your response sounds like you do understand the parental aspect pretty well. I am sorry that your parents are how you describe.
This seems to be something that society is seeing a lot now. Typically, arises when a single mom is raising a son. You really seem to lack a strong male role model.
Truly mean good luck to you and hopefully you can get some valuable advice here.
Don’t mention it, Darksith! My father isn’t exactly someone I look up to; I actually look up to tech moguls and influential thinkers like Albert Einstein and Nikola Tesla.
Thank you for the kind words. I can get past this, but I just need to relax. If you don’t mind, I would like to get some more advice from you; I really feel like I can learn a lot from some of the veterans here. đ
"Our virtues and our failings are inseparable, like force and matter. When they separate, man is no more." -Nikola Tesla
Welcome Mysterious Man, only 17? Thatâs all right, my father started letting me drive him home when I was 14, so by all rights in my realm youâre an adult and a man! I like the way you emailed Keymaser for permission, a real touch of class!
Youâre not only welcome here, you belong here!
Thanks, MGTower! I’m a huge fan of your posts; glad to know you’re doing amazing! I hope to learn a lot while I’m here. đ
"Our virtues and our failings are inseparable, like force and matter. When they separate, man is no more." -Nikola Tesla
Welcome Mysterious. You will be treated as a man here in these forums. Your knowledge will increase, your skin will thicken, your b~~~~ will grow, your brain will be washed with testosterone, and your eyes will open. Wide.
Thanks, Solomon! I think I’d liken your description to something like… I don’t know… this?
Just without the claws coming out, and the NDE. đ
"Our virtues and our failings are inseparable, like force and matter. When they separate, man is no more." -Nikola Tesla
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