My story

[Arrow76Participant 66]

Hello,

My name is David and I’m an aerospace engineering graduate from a Welsh university here in the UK and my story is a little complicated much like many I’ve read here but I’ve related to many so maybe others will relate to mine as well? I don’t want to come across as someone who has mommy or daddy issues, I genuinely want to express my opinion and I hope everyone will be understanding

I’m 24 and if I’m truly honest I’ve only just now managed to find my way in the world and declare myself ‘Happy’ or ‘Free’ as I’ve just now released myself from the constraints I had previously been living in.

All through my life I had the idea of growing up, getting a good degree and earning a good wage to support a family put into my head by my mother and father. My life goal was to find a woman, marry her and support her in a family life. I’m anything but sexist, I idolise the various aspects of the female sex in many ways and I have nothing but respect for them as I had been taught by my father.

But throughout my life it just seemed that that respect wasn’t reciprocated. In senior school me and my more intellectual friends were bullied and cast out despite the fact we were far more respectful and kind than those men they idolised whom traded them like toys in a schoolyard.

When I finally found a connection with a woman, my first, it was intimate and special but she slept with my best friend shortly thereafter and cast me aside while she remained friends with him…but why? He cast her aside afterwards as well yet she clung to him? I didn’t understand it?

This all happened during my leaving college and first and second year of aerospace engineering at university. I felt isolated and alone, granted my obligation to find someone at university much like my sister and brother had done I felt like a failure. I began desperately searching for someone else, it became my single life goal and after rejection after rejection I began to feel like a failure.

I began losing interest in my studies, I became a heavy alcoholic and slowly lost any and all belief in myself. To the extent I believed I didn’t deserve to live because no woman would ever want me.

I tried to kill myself in January 2014, knowing I was failing at my studies and at my need to be part of this culture of couples and being a part of something I wasn’t. I didn’t suceed thanks to the intervention of a close friend.

I was forced to return home, live with my parents until resuming university where I wasn’t exactly encouraged. They blamed my issues on me, stating I had developed an ‘irrational hatred or fear’ of people born from some inadequacy complex and I should simply get over it and move on.

I went back to university that year with the full intention of suicide again; and I tried lord did I try but at the precipice something seemed to click. Why? Why should I do this to myself? Is this my fault? What’s wrong with me? Literally bleeding to death I clawed my way to a nearby roadside to find help, somehow a nearby ambulance found me and rushed me to a hospital.

Met by my family the morning after I was met with mixed reactions, and the psychiatrists who reviewed me the months following received similar results.

I would no longer be some founder for some family. I wouldn’t perpetually gauge myself against women’s expectations. I wouldn’t follow a career I despise to earn money I don’t need to fund a family I don’t want. I won’t conform and be a person I don’t want to be because some woman wants me to be otherwise. I want to be me.

8 months on I am now a gardener, I am 2 stone lighter and I enjoy my job. I love the people I work with and I have found a place in the world. My parents don’t accept it, granted my siblings are married and are expecting children but I no longer care, I am free.

I am finally who I want to be. I can be myself. I can be the actor on the side. I can live a simple life free from a forced career in maths and engineering and the pressure to provide for a woman I don’t want. I live happily, knowing I don’t have some stereotype to conform to. I am at last what I would believe is a man, on my own two feet and standing tall. I’m not rich, but I’m happy and I live a good life.

What I really want to say from my story is that the oppressive need to conform drove me to alcoholism, self-deprecation and suicide. I felt I had to be someone else because that’s what women wanted and that was therefore what I had to be. Without it I feel like I’m living a whole new life, my life. I’m now able to do the things I love without fear because it no longer matters what anyone thinks, isn’t that what matters?

I don’t know if everyone will believe or agree with my story, or even if I’ve worded it right but it’s all true and from the heart.

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I should’ve added before how I found MGTOW, in that I read an article about the ‘male sexodus’ as it was described. About men leaving the conforming attitude of men providing for women or that a marriage or partner is a prerequisite of manhood or however one interprets it. In MGTOW I found kinsmanship knowing I was not alone in my newfound beliefs, affirming my beliefs and granting me solace knowing I am not alone. Also instilling a newfound hope that maybe my story might help others out there who may be or have experienced the same

'Others have seen what is and asked why. I have seen what could be and asked why not' Pablo Picasso

[Anonymous 42]

Take the money and RUN!

[Arrow76Participant 66]

I should’ve added before how I found MGTOW, in that I read an article about the ‘male sexodus’ as it was described. About men leaving the conforming attitude of men providing for women or that a marriage or partner is a prerequisite of manhood or however one interprets it. In MGTOW I found kinsmanship knowing I was not alone in my newfound beliefs, affirming my beliefs and granting me solace knowing I am not alone. Also instilling a newfound hope that maybe my story might help others out there who may be or have experienced the same

'Others have seen what is and asked why. I have seen what could be and asked why not' Pablo Picasso

[Solo MAN’S WisdomParticipant]

Arrow76 wrote:

I idolise the various aspects of the female sex in many ways and I have nothing but respect for them

This is the first thing to unlearn. They are, generally, not worthy of respect, and certainly not worthy of any idolatry.

Welcome to the beginning of understanding.

When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

[WallyParticipant]

Welcome brother, there is no price on freedom.

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

David,

DO NOT COMMITT SUICIDE EVER AGAIN!!!

You are more valuable than you realize.

MGTOW is a great place for you to learn about how amazing your life can be.

Try to be grateful that you have discovered at 24 years old that women are destructive, dangerous, and evil.

It is a good thing to understand at your age that along with stealing your wealth and freedom, woman will steal your will to live.

Besides the Gynocentric hell which makes men want to kill themselves, you are surrounded by a multitude of mechanisms which are designed to take you down.

Just like the institution of marriage, Engineering schools these days are f~~~ed up. Most of them are about destroying men, making debt slaves, and damaging their natural abilities to think and be problem solvers.

Your Welch ancestors have definitely survived horrible living conditions, but for most of your short young life, you have been relentlessly fed vile s~~~ which will make you want to give up. You have it inside you to survive this crap. So, you must dig deep, never take their s~~~ again, and try to open your mind to more of the things that will make you stronger.

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[Anonymous 5]

MGTOW SAVES LIVES: We say it so often it becomes cliche and we forget it’s a fact.
MGTOW isn’t an ideology. Stealthy said it best, it’s deprogramming. It’s seeing things as they are.

It’s the recognition of cognitive dissonance with our concept of women.
We stop believing the “Wonderful Woman” (Wikipedia) fallacy. We stop seeing the everyday, everywhere behaviour of women as exceptional and accept it as normal and predictable.

Thank for the great intro. We all needed another reminder of just how important it is for men to totally disregard women’s values.

[Anonymous_American_GuyParticipant 23]

I am glad you found a better way Arrow, As I was reading your story I kept thinking that if only you could of focused on your studies and made the money
w/o having to involve yourself with women at all.
If you focus on your studies, you will make the money the women will find you.

I just wish more guys would focus on themselves these women will come to you this gives you the power to say No, It Gives you the power she once had.

Worry about yourself, The brotherhood will be there to cheer you on.

[WhackerGuy2030Participant 999]

Rock on man! I walked away from my high dollar job after ten years. Took a 40% paycut for a job I tolerate or enjoy (depends on the day). If I had the option to go back for the money and supervise 150 post wall soul crushing demons, I would tell them to shuv it up their ass. I know I make less than just about everyone I know, however, I’ve always got a higher discretionary income because I have no leeches. MGTOW power baby!
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Do what you love. If you wake up in the morning and don’t feel the urge to sigh and say “f~~~” first thing. You’re on the right track.

[Mr_OptionsParticipant 298]

Welcome brother. Glad you are still among us. First off MGTOW is a mindset that will deprogram your brain as you were brought up like so many of us. The more you read here the more insight you will get to go your own way. be strong and live long.

A man without a woman is like a fish without a hook.

[ConstantineParticipant 4420]

Hello Arrow. No more suicide attempts. You would’ve ended up part of a bloody statistic that’s too damn high as it is. As The Manipulated Man said, male lives matter, just like yours. You must be a bright guy to be studying aerospace engineering, so don’t lose sight of that.

I don’t know if everyone will believe or agree with my story, or even if I’ve worded it right but it’s all true and from the heart.

I believe you. We’re not like women dude, we rarely make up stories for attention. Some do, I’m sure, but it’s comparatively rarer. Good on you for sharing and welcome.

To see what is in front of one's nose requires a constant struggle. -Orwell

[alchemistParticipant 484]

F~~~ YES, GO FOR IT LAD! Your story is inspiring, keep up the good work!

Regarding what your parents said; You developed a rational hatred of bulls~~~. Your parents imposed a false morality and taught you to define yourself by external principals, THEY IMPOSED INADEQUACY ON YOU. No wonder you were devastated when you couldn’t reach them- but as you know now; they were illusions.

Red pills all the way. Welcome home.

P.S. I was suicidal at one point but one day, while very drunk, I wrote a rhyme which got me through many hard nights. If alcohol works for you, write it down and stick it on your wall, just in case;

"you can buy a bottle of happiness for 2.69 so do that before you take your life and then you'll feel fine!"

and with a beer in my belly I certainly do 🙂

[Arrow76Participant 66]

Thanks for all the support you guys its great to be in a place where people actually understand the way I see it too. To make sure we’re all on the same page I’m NOT suicidal anymore and I haven’t been since I took my new career path and started living for me and its a damn happier way to be. I got my degree in the end so there’s no worries there but I want to leave it be for a while, my job I have now pays my bills and buys me a good beer so whats more to want? When you’re single all that money goes a lot further right? The MGTOW way of life seems to fit me just fine 🙂

*also why my post was tagged with “Vile S~~~” I don’t know but yeah…uh…nice

'Others have seen what is and asked why. I have seen what could be and asked why not' Pablo Picasso

[MyCocaineKeymaster 182]

Arrow76 wrote:

I genuinely want to express my opinion and I hope everyone will be understanding

Terrific intro and you’re in the right place for that.

Welcome David.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Thanks for your openness, you intro and welcome David to MGTOW and the Forums.

Arrow76 wrote:

*also why my post was tagged with “Vile S~~~” I don’t know but yeah…uh…nice

That concerns me but I don’t see that. It shows tagged in “engineering school, Introductions, My Story.”. But if you see that anywhere, please let me know and I’ll take care of it at once.

Please join in whenever you’re inspired.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Arrow76Participant 66]

@keymaster Thanks and I’ve already made and joined posts already feeling really part of the community

As to that tag I think I may have removed it when I deleted it when posting a reply if deleting it from tags when doing so does that. Though tbh granted certain parts of my story I’m used to some kinds of stigma, bounces off me like paper bullets as this group has made me more confident to be me 🙂

'Others have seen what is and asked why. I have seen what could be and asked why not' Pablo Picasso

[Aleph MaleParticipant 214]

No woman is worth your life, sir. You need to remember and understand that.

Behind every miserable man there is a very happy woman.

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