My road to MGTOW

[quiksilver123Participant 14]

Well, I have been meaning to write this for some time now and decided to finally introduce myself. Like many of you, my road to MGTOW was a long and difficult one as I am now 39. Where to begin…

I was raised in a very traditional family as an only child. My Dad had a good job and Mom was a stay at home. But unlike most women today, she loved her role and would cook, clean, and raise me in the best way possible. Not only that, but she was quite frugal, and didn’t spend money on name brand stuff or anything like that. She’d also cut coupons back in the day as a way to save money and my parents, as a result, paid off their mortgage in 14 years. They’re still married today, been going on 43 years and while things were difficult at times, they always pulled through.

Much of my early ideology about relationships came from them, as well as movies/TV. I was blue pill as hell, and I would pay a heavy, heavy price as a result.

I started my first relationship at 14. She was 2 years older than me and I had known her for a few years growing up. She was my first everything. My first kiss, BJ, and I lost my virginity to her. It was everything you can think of when you think of young love. At 16, she went off to college in the same city and stayed in the dorms. I also started my first job at a local mall and sometimes she would come and we’d hang out in the mall before or after my shifts. One day, she saw a diamond necklace that she couldn’t stop raving about. Being as a blue pill as I was, I made it my goal to get it for her to make her happy. I put a down payment and put it on layaway. Every week, I’d pay $10, $20 until i finally paid it off after 5 months or so. Keep in mind that this was back in the early 90’s when %20 or $20 still meant something and I was earning. $4.50/hr. 2 months after giving it to her, I found out that she had met someone while she had been a senior in high school and that they had been engaged for the last 8 months of our relationship.

This would cause a major depression in me for over a year and my grades suffered drastically my all-important junior year (I had always been a good student). It took me almost 2 years to get over it and truth be told, I’m not sure I ever really have 100%. I had so much rage in me that I decided to seek a creative outlet and took up boxing. But I’d be lying if I said that a very small part of me got involved in boxing as away to get girls- the same way a lot of guys get into bands. What surprised even me, was that I was actually pretty good and for the next 6-7 years I competed and did pretty well relatively speaking. When I wasn’t in training camping for a fight, I had my pick of pretty much any girl I wanted after word started to spread of my abilities. While I didn’t become an asshole, I certainly developed some asshole tendencies.

This was my first experience with seeing how some women can behave in certain circumstances. I had all kinds of sex with girls who were single, had boyfriends, married and “groupies.” The only thing was that I swore to myself that I would never willingly be a participant in sleeping with any girl that was attached in any ways. I remembered the pain that I went through and I never wanted to be a part of that. Although the vast majority of them were single, ALL of the attached ones never told me until after the fact.

I’d continue my ways until I met what would become my 2nd girlfriend- and really the girl that I still consider the love of my life. She was sweet, kind, and patient with me and saw how much hurt I had inside of me and tried her best to help with my issues. She was really great and I can’t say I was the best bf to her. While I never cheated or hit her during our 3 years together, I was guilty of doing some other stupid s~~~. One day, she had finally had enough and she told me she had met someone else. One thing I’ve learned from these forums and in my life, is the idea of vine-swinging for women. I begged and pleaded with her to give me one more chance. But it was to no avail, and one of the things she said to me, was that wasn’t “materialistic enough>” (Her exact words)- which basically meant I didn’t have enough of a good job. Many years later, I learned that she married him and that they have 2 children together. From what I understand, he’s a bigwig at firm in CA.

The point of that story is that even though I have never blamed her for leaving me and I that I really consider her pretty close to being a unicorn, she was smart enough to realize that she could ltach onto someone with much more earning potential than me (at the time).

For the next 7 years, I went back to banging bar sluts and even had one that claimed that I knocked her up. To this day, I still don’t know if it was mine but looking back, I think she just got me to be the sucker to pay for it and be the emotional tampon.

My 3rd and last gf would come from living in Colombia. Again, she came across as very sweet and lovng. She was 11 years younger than me and drop dead gorgeous. After I returned to the states and we continued to do a long-distance thing, I would later receive a facebook messgage from some guy saying that she had cheated on me with him multiple times over a period of 6 months.

And those are just my relationships. I could go on and on about the divorce rapes and other s~~~ty stiff I’ve seen happen to good friends of mine. In one case, I saw a girl that I had known since the age of 8 who came from a great family, completely turn into a c&%t with her husband who I had become very, very good friends with. She divorce-raped the F#%k out of him and did so much bad s~~~ that i don’t even talk to her anymore. But I’m still good friends with him. The point is, if you can see something like this from someone you’ve known for almost all of your life- what does that say about someone that you’ve known for a relatively short time?!?

I’ve been MGTOW for about 1.5 years now. Sometimes, I still get a little depressed knowing that my parents will never see their grand-children and that I’ll never have the life that I envisioned when I was younger. But for the most part, I’ve done so much like learn Spanish and salsa pretty well. Next up is French which I hope will bring my total to 4 languages. I’ve traveled all around the world and have seen more of it than maybe 80% of the population here in the U.S. Although I NEVER, EVER thought I would do this, I now solve my need for sex by regularly taking 3-4 trips per year to a foreign country and banging hookers there- especially Colombia where the women are unbelievable!

I Thank You for allowing me to be a part of this brotherhood!!!

[FermatParticipant 3478]

Welcome quiksilver. Your introduction speaks volumes about the falsehoods behind intimate relationships.

quiksilver123 wrote:

But it was to no avail, and one of the things she said to me, was that wasn’t “materialistic enough>” (Her exact words)- which basically meant I didn’t have enough of a good job.

Women use a man’s need for sex to get money. Men use a woman’s want for money to get sex. This the way the world works and the effects are more disastrous than positive.

I have discovered a truly remarkable list of reasons why women are not necessary for a happy life, but alas this margin is too small to contain it.

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8283]

Hi Quiksilver. Please tell me more about your travels. I plan to do some travelling in the future!

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

[Anonymous 29]

quiksilver123 wrote:

Sometimes, I still get a little depressed knowing that my parents will never see their grand-children

Welcome to the forums and tx for a good read/intro.

I would like to address the sentence about your parents. Yo may be thankful to them for giving you life, but you do not owe them grand-children, no disrespect meant. Carrying the burden of having to produce kids for the sake of you parents or your family line/yourself is an outdated idea of eternal life in various forms. You owe no one, you owe it to yourself to live as bast as you can, for as long as you can before you turn to dust. And we all turn to dust. The said dust is fourteen billion years old, and we all go back to it, to what we all came from. And there is your eternity. Do not live your life in regret.

[RoyDalParticipant]

Welcome! I’m glad you made it.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Anonymous 42]

Hey Ouicksilver, you’re intro resembled the Comstock Load, very rich in truth, understanding, something deep in all our soles.
I learned Spanish for my trips to other countries, south of the border, and places like Miami Fortworth. In Belize they teach three languages, English, French, and Spanish, the indigenous people there are much more educated than anything our system can produce, feminism has destroyed education for men, done so by designing it to serve the mindset and needs of a woman.
I learned more beyond the age of 16 when I dropped out of public school, I got my GED, a trained machinist, a public school’s feminist’s fool!
I also learned tons from manuals galore, electronics, electrician, national construction codes, 1890s railroad earth moving mathematics, construction, and bridges too. I also learned how to fly aircraft in flight school, but I already had hundreds and hundreds of hours flying model aircraft since I was 15 that I had designed and built, one model, a twin engine with a wing chord much to thick, under powered it only got inches of the water, It flew on groundeffect only like a Russian Ekranoplan, the skill was in keeping the wing tip from dipping in the water as I continuously has to turn from crashing into the shoreline. That was a failure and like so many other failures, there’s something I always learn.
Like you I wasted valuable time on women, everyone of them an Ekranoplan, something you handle carefully, always ready to crash, and something that never flew!
Great intro, I enjoyed your honesty, and sincerity, your life is something we’ve all been through…

[JasonParticipant 282]

Welcome, Quik! And don’t feel bad, we’ve all done some stupid s~~~ for the sake of women at one time or other.

There lies serenity in Chaos. Seek ye the eye of the hurricane.

[NothingFaceParticipant 38]

Welcome! Nice to see a fellow language learner. I hope you are going to have a great time here.

[Dark KenshiParticipant 2132]

Nice to have you here and nice intro, by the way!

Brother, here, you are free to speak the way YOU want.

You do not need to use characters like @#$%, just speak them!

Here, if this is not the LAST place on earth where you can say out loud, c~~~, t~~~, dick, s~~~ and other things, it is certanly one of the lasts.

Feel fre to speak ANY WAY you want, Quik!

Hope to see your $2c everywhere in the forums…

Glad you’ve made it!

"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.

[quiksilver123Participant 14]

Thanks for the warm welcome guys! It’s certainly nice to be able to speak my thoughts without much judgment or ridicule. Some of my friends have been asking why I haven’t gotten back into dating and when I’ve brought up the subject of not dating women, they just haven’t been able to understand. They haven’t argued against me or anything, just more a feeling of not being able to understand.

Just to respond to some of the replies that a few of you posted-

Fermat271- Yes, I do agree with you but only after women reach a certain age and dare I say, not all women. With my 2nd gf, I barely spent any money at all and she was pretty cool with it. Most of the time, we’d just hang out at my place or hers. But it was never about money. It was only after she reached a certain age, about 25 or 26, that I believed that she started to think about that. But yeah, I do feel that the majority of women do examine a guy’s ability to provide resources.

FunintheSun- I don’t know how old you are or where you’ve been, but I was blessed with the ability to travel from a very young age with my family. I’ve been to a lot of Europe, almost all of South America (my personal favorite continent), some of the countries of the Middle East, a couple of countries in Central America, and Northern Africa. I can’t stay I’ve been to the Pacific Rim part of Asia or the sub-Saharan part of Africa. But they are definitely in my plans. Right now I’m planning a trip with some buddies to Cuba for New Year’s. I’ve always wanted to go there and I want to see it before it gets “gringoed out.” If you have any questions about anything in particular, feel free to let me know.

MG-ɹǝʍo┴- That is quite a different life you’ve had. I must admit, some of the most intelligent people I’ve met also have the least amount of education while some of the dumbest people I’ve met have been the most educated on paper. I can’t say that I’m familiar with the Comstock Load, but I’ll look into it!

DRS au- I agree with you. But what makes it difficult sometimes are several things. For starters, I’m an only child. Also, both of my parents, especially my Dad, are having major health issues and it’s difficult to not at least think about his desire to see his grandchildren or at the very least, see me married off before he passes. Honestly, I’ll be surprised if he is still with us in 2 years. Also, I come from a traditional background where it’s expected that chidlren get married relatively young (compared to the average in the States) and have children. I agree with you about it being my life. Maybe it’s still the blue-pill in me, but it’s difficult sometimes to not at least think about that sometimes.

Thanks again for the warm welcome guys and I’m looking forward to interacting in the brotherhood!

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