My Red Pill realisation

[lukeylalaParticipant 56]

Hey guys I’m recently new to this as I took my ‘Red Pill’ only a couple of months ago. My name is Luke, I’m 20 years old from England and this is how the story goes…I’ll try and condense it down as much as possible!

To start of I’ll say that I don’t hate women in the slightest, in fact I work with a few great gals that I get on with really well and have met a few good women over the years. However I’ve met my fair share of horrible women too!

Anyway my journey you could call it started at the age of 16. I had a female friend(lets call her Number 1) that I had bumped into a few times(social gatherings and what not) over a few months and she seemed really cool. We eventually exchanged numbers and started hanging out. This lasted for a few months, all seemed well, she was showing interest in me in the way of ‘hey lets eventually be more than friends’ and I was happy to go along with it. However over the course of a few weeks I started to realise(with the help of my wonderful Dad) that she had done this to quite a few guys in the past and never seemed to take it seriously. She also had a guy who had been friends with her for years that was practically stuck in the friend zone, ready to come and comfort her whenever she needed it(he’s still there as far as I know, he’s wasting his time with that girl). I realised she was bad news, so I eventually stopped talking to her and that was that.

Enter Number 2, a friend of mine from primary school who suddenly came back into my life while I was 17-18. She had it all, pretty face, great body, intelligent etc etc We had bumped into each other many a time throughout our local town and both started messaging each other, hanging out, going to watch movies you name it. She too like Number 1 showed an interest that was more than ‘being friends’. So here I am, at her birthday meal in town(with a few other friends of hers). I have plans to ask her out to make things official(being the guy I’m expected to make the move) and am just waiting for the right moment. She suggests that we go and watch a movie, so I agree(Yes! I can ask her out once the movie is over, its just the 2 of us it’ll be perfect!). So, eventually the time comes as were walking out. I ask her and she says ‘No, I’d rather stay friends’. What? But you seemed so willing, why would you make me think you wanted me!? But ok, maybe I over analyzed the situation and she was just being friendly, lets give her the benefit of the doubt.

Que a few of weeks later and were still friends, but she is still showing an interest in me that just doesn’t make sense. She’s acting too interested for someone that just wanted to be friends and the mind-f~~~ery is driving me crazy! Needless to say that not long after I stopped talking to her and the friendship had ended. Thank god.

Onto Number 3! Now this one is the girl that had the biggest impact on my life and It’ll soon be apparent why. I had met this girl at work when I was 18 and really liked her, she was 23 at the time. We got on really well, I mean really well. Unfortunately she had a boyfriend so it was a no go zone but I still had feelings for her. Anyway a few months down the line I find out that her and her boyfriend have recently broken up and that she’s really interested in me. On a night out on the town a couple of days later we hit it off, she’s my first kiss and let me tell you its just great! We must of been sitting down snogging for about 2 hours before we eventually part ways to go home and call it a night.

The next month and a half was (at the time) one of the best times of my life! We went on a few of dates, we hung around each others house just chilling etc etc and eventually after a month we have sex(my first time) and it feels as if the relationship is just getting stronger! Well that’s when things go a little crazy. A couple of weeks later, she says that she just cant do this anymore and that I deserve someone better. I try telling her that she doesn’t mean what she says and that she’s just panicking because we’ll be spending less time together, due to her being busier with college work. Anyway she listens and the crisis is averted. Until a couple of weeks later when she gets back from visiting some friends. After getting back she asks me if I’m available and she asks if we can go to the nearest park. She keeps her arms folded so we cant hold hands and something seems a little off…she eventually gets me to sit down next to her on some steps and says the dreaded words ‘Its over’. I’m crushed. This girl that seemed so promising just used me as a rebound to feel better about herself and then tosses me out like garbage. This girl that meant so much to me, my first kiss and the girl I had lost my virginity to, all gone after just 2 months. I felt like such a stupid prick! I cut all contact after that and just got on with my new job and life in general.

A year and a half down the line and we have Number 4. Now this girl has been a friend of my sisters for at least 4 years. She had stated to My sis many times over the years that she really liked me, wanted to be with me etc etc but i was never interested. That is until a few months ago. I cant really explain it, its like a switch suddenly went off in my head and said ‘I actually really like this girl, she’s so down to earth, doesn’t take or give any crap and is a genuinely caring person, she’d be perfect!’. So I start talking to her(over the phone/texting because she lives a short train journey away) We eventually start talking more and more about each other and relationships and stuff. She’s over the moon, telling me how she’s waited for this moment for years and how she’s so glad I started developing feelings for her because she’s wanted me for years. This goes on, she starts telling me things like how she’s looking forward to the future, to ‘us’ as she put it and various other texts saying about how she just wants me to be next to her, kissing and cuddling and all that s~~~.

Its not long before she invites me up for the weekend, stating that she just cant wait to see me and that she’s really excited. ‘This is it’ I think ‘The moment we make it official’. I get there, she gives me a big hug and is so glad I’m there, so I settle in at her house. The next day is when it flips 180. So far she hasn’t been making any advances or even talking about us ‘Maybe she’s just shy’ I think. Anyway I start making advances(hugging her from behind, kissing her forehead as I walk past, you know stupid stuff) but I’m still getting no reaction. ‘Strange’ I think. So I go for it, I tell her that I want to be with her, that I want nothing more than to be kissing and cuddling as she put it and to have a great relationship together. And what does she say? ‘I’m not sure, I’m just not ready yet’. She’s basically lied to me this whole time. She stays downstairs for the rest of my stay and I’m just left alone with my thoughts for the weekend. I couldn’t sleep properly for 2 nights because I was so frustrated and angry at how she could suddenly change like that. I cant let another girl do this to me anymore, so I sit her down and tell her what she’s done. She claims that she told me from the start that she wasn’t ready(total bulls~~~). So I just think ‘forget it, its not worth it anymore’ and stop the conversation. I had no choice but to stay for a couple of days after that, since I couldn’t afford to buy another train ticket back home since I already booked mine back for the end of the weekend. I haven’t spoken to her since.

So after that last one I ‘Took the Red Pill’ so to speak. I realised that all of these girls had just used me and led me on, only to change there minds and/or play mind tricks with me.

Well no more. I’m never taking s~~~ like that from a woman again. No more ‘Mr Nice Guy’ who’ll be there when they want me, then disappear when I need them. Its time to be more ‘Alpha’ so to speak. Time to be a man who can and will say NO and not put up with their bulls~~~. A man who is becoming a better person for himself, not them. A man going his own way.

Thanks for taking the time to read guys! Would just like to say that this MGTOW movement is great. Shows that we don’t need women to be happy and that our actions as a Man Going His Own Way speak far louder than words!

[RabidcavemanParticipant 57]

The word “NO”, is the most intoxicating word a man can say to a woman.

This also correlates with the “punish swiftly, reward slowly” rule, and the 3x rule. 3x rule explains that for every time you say “YES” to a woman, you say “NO” 3x as much.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Hey Lukeylala. Welcome, brother.

To start of I’ll say that I don’t hate women in the slightest

No need to begin with that. If a man prefers motorcycles, it doesn’t mean he “hates” cars either. (One wonders why some men are compelled to make a point of stating how they “don’t hate women”).

We already know you don’t. When you think about it, it’s silly, unrealistic and impossible to “hate women” as an entire gender — just like it’s impossible to LOVE them all. I mention this because if a guy’s not careful, he may find himself APOLOGIZING for something before he has even started. You can freely hate how you’ve been treated and nobody can fault YOU for that. Because it’s not YOUR problem.

A saw a female character in a movie once say:
“I don’t want to say anything that’s anti-feminist… but….”

Why not? What is the consequence for saying something anti-feminist?
Is some feminist somewhere gonna GET MAD?

Ooooooo scary.

Why would there ever be a need to apologize for saying something anti-feminist in advance? Especially if it’s TRUE! You may be new here, but the best part about being here (or MGTOW) is you never have to walk on eggshells ever again. How awesome is that. How great it is to tell your story straight out and not have to apologize for your criticisms before you even begin.

I can also tell you about 4 horrible dates I went on , but I sure as s~~~ won’t apologize for speaking badly about them. They really were horrible and I was not the problem. Their BEHAVIOR was. I’ll tell you directly they were c~~~s, and it feels great to say it. I even told THEM without apologizing.

I hope you see the value in this. Talking about how women REALLY behave is good for you. It’s also good for other guys to hear it. Feel free to kick your shoes off anytime and make yourself at home.

Cheers. And thanks for joining.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[lukeylalaParticipant 56]

Haha I guess maybe I started with that because I don’t like to offend people, although who would I offend here? Thanks Keymaster, nice to be able to get stuff off your chest sometimes y’know.. 🙂

 

[KeymasterKeymaster]

I guess maybe I started with that because I don’t like to offend people.

Why concern yourself with that? It’s much too easy to offend people. The children’s movie Toy Story comes with a trigger-warning label – because it contains “ableism”. People are offended when you say “merry christmas” instead of “happily holidays”. A woman is “offended” if you simply don’t tell her what she wants to hear. So who f~~~ing cares about offending people? Just because someone is “offended” doesn’t mean they’re RIGHT.

If you’re being true to yourself and a man of integrity – go ahead and offend them. Right in the ass. Especially women.

When a woman is “offended”… it means you’re doing everything RIGHT. Have the b~~~~ to let a woman be offended. That’s how to avoid situations like the ones you mentioned above. Instead of being the gentleman who steps aside quietly lets her go, make sure she understands WHY. Offend that bitch.

Just some s~~~ to think about – inspired by your story.
Cheers MGHOW. And have an excellent weekend.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[lukeylalaParticipant 56]

Huh, I guess I never thought about it that way! Will definitely think about it. And you too. 🙂

[Total LeeParticipant 1573]

Hey kid. Props to your arrival! Never taking any s~~~ from them is a good place to be.

[SandmanParticipant 12]

I too am new here, but perhaps this will also help:

You have the RIGHT to freedom of Speech! NO ONE has the right not to be offended!

The Pussification of our society is carcinogenic, prolific and disgusting! I don’t want to derail your thread, ah f~~~ it, it’s on topic and if it isn’t, here’s my thread derail….

In the workplace, harassment policies abound. Yeah sometimes for good reason but more times than not it is Pussification at it’s finest.  Follow along kids…. Where I work, you don’t have to even say or do something that was intended to be offensive, another person (third person even!) only has to “perceive” it as offensive or take offense of what you’ve said, did, posted, gesticulated or otherwise, therefore it is and thus it is harassment and you’ll get “coached” on your behaviour! PUSSIFICATION!

In the workplace, you can’t demean someone for making a retarded mistake never mind being a genuine retard in all his decisions. I remember when I got into the work force in the 90’s, belittling you was par for the course for making stupid f~~~ ups, but you didn’t make those f~~~ ups again!  It was called looking out for the other guy, yourself and your crew, and it was usually something that was unsafe or was going to cause someone else a s~~~ tonne more work because of your stupid.  PUSSIFICATION EVERYWHERE!

[torch1980Participant 93]

Lukey, welcome and I have to say and other mgtows here can probably back me up when I say, at least 80% of women I dealt with acted like that with me or with other men as well, even women I was “friends” with for years….women think nice guys HAVE to always be nice even if they are treating them like toxic waste, just always smile and hug them even when they think you are worse than someone who tortured and killed puppies….but when you are a western women from the ages 18-50 and  have the thought process of a spoiled toddler it makes sense, but not with adults who think like rational adults…they see that as sociopathic and psychotic..

As keymaster said, don’t feel ashamed to speak how you feel here, women as I mentioned earlier want men like us to suffer, for no other reason to prove to their egos that  “all men are bad” never mind the fact they would NEVER even dare think about acting this horrible to “thugs” or “bad boys” then they are “poor wittle victims” boo f~~~ing hoo give me a break….

I’m glad you are seeing women for what they are this early in your life…just always remember, true leaders never back down from their opinion, no matter how much guilt, shame, or threats someone uses against them…once a woman realizes a man knows her “games” she will get mad and angry because they are so egotistical that even when they TELL you what their selfish agendas are, they think their “magical vaginas” will “seduce” you so well, you won’t even notice it…

"I think of a man, and I take away reason & accountability"

[In Which We ServeParticipant 111]

Unfortunately in the United Kingdom, freedom of speech is not enshrined in our constitution as it is in the US. There are quite a few things you are  not allowed to say, and the list is growing longer. It used to just be obscenity, blasphemy and treason, but nowadays ‘causing offence’ to whatever fashionable minority is offended is now seen as a legitimate crime and people have been arrested for it. No kidding – if any minority group is offended by something someone says, that is legitimate cause for the police to arrest someone. That’s why you get madness like the Twitter storm about that scientist who wore a shirt which ‘offended’ some feminists.

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