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One thing that really makes me angry about some women is: their decision to have a baby when they don’t have the resources to take care of that baby—and neither does the deadbeat, unemployed boyfriend they’re f~~~ing! Many of them know they have the option of getting help from a government agency, so they don’t feel much remorse for their decision to have a baby while being broke. “Wouldn’t it make more sense for them to have sex with a man who has a JOB and a sense of loyalty and responsibility for their well-being?” I ask myself this every time I see a pregnant woman whose boyfriend mysteriously disappeared upon hearing the sweet news of his fatherhood. We all know that sex is not going to happen unless a woman consents to it. And the men she gives consent to, out of all the would-be fathers who woo her for marriage in vain, are often broke, unemployed, ignorant men who have a history of prison and drug abuse. These outstanding men are chosen to be the fathers of their children. How wonderful. But since the biological dads are broke, the government becomes the “step daddy” and pays for food, housing, education, and health care.
This isn’t a situation that’s none of my business. I don’t have kids, but my paychecks get taxed every month to take care of kids who are neglected by their parents. What about my desire to buy stuff with the money I earn? I might want to have a steak dinner or buy some new shoes. Why can’t people in my society see that as something of value? Buying gifts for myself sustains jobs whereas giving money to people who make bad judgments is like rewarding their behavior. These people don’t give me anything of value in return for the money that’s taxed for them. In fact, some of these people CONTINUE to have unprotected sex in spite of being broke and unemployed with several kids they can’t afford to feed.
"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)
Back in my college days I lived in cheap apartments. The buildings were full of single mothers on the dole. There was a constant stream of low-life boyfriends. I moved to a trailer park. It was a step up.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
Let me clear this mystery up for you ☺
In the old day a women that got pregnant out of ‘wedlock’ ….. (look at that word. That says everything) … she was basically shunned.
So the relative numbers were low. Eventually most found husbands that worked.
Then feminism came along and told women they can have it all …. job … family … provider … c~~~s … everything.
If hubby didn’t like it …. no problem … he could fk off … but leave his money behind and also give future earning to the ex t~~~.
So … men being men …. we stopped marring.
Feminist then made common law wives …. men realised … and stopped living with t~~~s …..
So where do they get there money from now? No marriage, no common law husband.
That’s right ….. YOU
The single guy, hard working, no relations~~~. Just doing your own thing.
With state wealth extraction …. you have become the provider and the state is hubby.
Don’t think it’s just you. We’re all being fked this way.
Chad Thunderc~~~ is still pounding away and we pick up the bill so his dna challenged spawn can start up the Idiocrecy.
I hope this helps ☺
Yeah this p~~~es me off so much as well. I know plenty of good people who only have 1 or 2 kids because its all they can afford…meanwhile our taxes keep going up and up and broke scumbag moms just keep popping out kids without a care in the world because the government gives them a raise every time they f~~~ up again. Its literally tougher to adopt a rescue dog than it is for some slut skank to pop a baby out and get on the dole.
The hilarious part is how many women parrot the line of keeping the government out of their bedroom, and the government shouldn’t control their vagina. I agree…the government shouldn’t control your rotten vaginas, and it shouldn’t be responsible for whatever falls out of them.
Anonymous11With state wealth extraction …. you have become the provider and the state is hubby.
I am that single guy.
There’s nothing like the feeling of when I go grocery shopping and queue up behind one of these parasites with demon spawns in tow. Let me tell you they spare no expense with shopping carts full of expensive processed crap of every variety making them fatter every day. F~~~ it why should,they care they get everything free. I usually start up a conversation with the person behind me where I start making snide comments about them. Not once have I ever been chastised, I make sure they over hear me too.
God help you if you get behind one who’s on WIC(Women Infants Children program)
MGTOW Hint: Look for Libby’s Juicy Juice, cheese, eggs and milk though Juicy Juice is the prime indicator in cart and avoid that line as you’ll get to watch one who gives the cashier endless f~~~ing paper vouchers to process. These vouchers must be worth next to nothing each , and it takes forever.
Meanwhile, I’m standing there with my fresh vegetables and basic meats scrounged with what little I have left over after I pay my taxes. I do try to hit the self-checkout lanes as much as possible as these parasites seem to avoid them. Yes, I’ve seen EBT users with cartloads of rib eye steaks and crab legs too on more than one occasion. 250 dollars worth of steak and crab legs sounds more like a party than feeding starving children.
People say: “Why would women choose to be single mothers.” Well I delivered babies in an inner city hospital and all the mothers were under 16 and non of the moms or boyfriends were there.
Each and every one told me that the reason they were having a baby is that it made them financially independent of their mothers so it made them fully adult women in their community. Non of them were going to raise their baby because their mothers were all 30 because they did the same thing when they were 15.
So single mother hood is a choice in America and many women whose only need is a roof over their heads and enough peanut butter to kill a cow, all from WIC, make that choice.
#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.
A baby is a paycheck. Whether that paycheck is sourced from child support, WIC, section 8, etc. Someone is paying out the minute that womb turd get pushed out.
The woman is praised for being a “mom”. No matter how whorish or drugged out you are if you can push out a baby you are set as a “mother”.
I have seen mid 40s women have their 3rd kid with three different men brag about getting over $1500/month in child support! That simple folks…
I don’t blame the pregnant single mothers and I have no problems paying my taxes knowing it’ll help feed a kid. It’s not the kids’ fault and I’ll pay first to feed a kid rather than give my money to the Military Industrial Complex and murdering, nation-sovereignty-grabbing Corporations. Your taxes are mainly used to keep a f~~~ed up system running and those “irresponsible” parents on Welfare, at least those I’ve met and knew, do all they can to not depend. I know young mothers who’d rather suck dick than ask anyone for a penny. Look at the state of the world’s economy, do you think there are jobs-a-gogo for everyone?
Many of those guys you call losers are victims of a system that rather put them in prison than give them the tools to succeed in this economy. Have you seen the state of the school system lately?
Not everone is a genius. What do you propose? Kill anyone with under 150IQ so we can spend our money on those who are “really worth it?” Who are they?
Yesterday we had an Abortion thread. Many of us are against killing babies in their mother’s womb but we’re now talking about excluding children from govment subsidies because the parents are morons? Stop Corporate Welfare, not people’s.
This world is f~~~ed beyond repair. Our society is destroyed beyond hope and our environment is getting toxic, literally. Father Nature is going to show us the error of our ways but we’re bitching about money given to a bunch of innocent kids who aren’t even born yet?
Not me. I’m not against Family and not against children.
Eveyone has the right to have children, even the poor and dumb. It’s the High and Mighty of society that have to get their f~~~ing act together to turn this train wreck around, not families and certainly not children.Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!The best part is all of these single mothers feel like they are doing right. They are strong, they deserve the free resources, they are empowered women!
All of them realize later that they made a mistake. Men don’t want them, friends and family don’t respect them, their child grows up a loser.
It would be nice to get a father’s day card from one of these single mothers. Since I’m helping provide for her children it’s the least she could do.
Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.
I’ll pay first to feed a kid rather than give my money to the Military Industrial Complex and murdering, nation-sovereignty-grabbing Corporations.
I’d rather the money going to all of the above be slashed. You have pretty much just argued two wrongs make a right.
I know young mothers who’d rather suck dick than ask anyone for a penny.
Prostitution should be legal, so I’d just consider these women as earning their keep.
Look at the state of the world’s economy, do you think there are jobs-a-gogo for everyone?Many of those guys you call losers are victims of a system that rather put them in prison than give them the tools to succeed in this economy. Have you seen the state of the school system lately?Not everone is a genius. What do you propose?
I propose we stop giving “strong independent” single moms such an easy out via tax dollars and revamp divorce laws so men just don’t get f~~~ed over by default nearly as much. Raising kids is a team sport, yet everything the government does rewards people who don’t do it as a team.
Kill anyone with under 150IQ so we can spend our money on those who are “really worth it?” Who are they?Yesterday we had an Abortion thread. Many of us are against killing babies in their mother’s womb but we’re now talking about excluding children from govment subsidies because the parents are morons?
I’m not against keeping people fed but our current system disgusts me. In my state one of our programs hands people cash cards with no limitations. They can go to an ATM and just withdraw cash…because the old food stamps are demeaning. F~~~ that. These people should have to go to state run distribution centers and receive a box every week with their rations for the week in it. I’ve seen way to many people here cashing their cards and buying booze, lottery tickets, etc. If they can afford that stuff they don’t need the assistance, and they sure as hell shouldn’t be buying things like lobster, crab legs, shrimp, steak, etc that most working people can’t afford or buy very rarely as a treat.
Eveyone has the right to have children, even the poor and dumb. It’s the High and Mighty of society that have to get their f~~~ing act together to turn this train wreck around, not families and certainly not children.
I think the poor and dumb should do the same thing most of the middle class couples I know have done. Set a budget and say “You know what, we are only going to have x kids because its all we can afford.” I know a ton of married, dual income couples who stopped at 1, 2, or 3 kids because its all they could afford…so no, I don’t agree that poor people somehow have the right to s~~~ out 6 kids, and I think part of the stipulation for single moms to get on any assistance programs for kids they can’t afford should be getting their tubes tied. If they ever get their s~~~ together its reversible, and in the mean time they shouldn’t be allowed to spit out more kids when they already have kid(s) they can’t afford.
Let me clear this mystery up for you
In the old day a women that got pregnant out of ‘wedlock’ ….. (look at that word. That says everything) … she was basically shunned.
So the relative numbers were low. Eventually most found husbands that worked.
Then feminism came along and told women they can have it all …. job … family … provider … c~~~s … everything.
If hubby didn’t like it …. no problem … he could fk off … but leave his money behind and also give future earning to the ex t~~~.
So … men being men …. we stopped marring.
Feminist then made common law wives …. men realised … and stopped living with t~~~s …..
So where do they get there money from now? No marriage, no common law husband.
That’s right ….. YOU
The single guy, hard working, no relations~~~. Just doing your own thing.
With state wealth extraction …. you have become the provider and the state is hubby.
Don’t think it’s just you. We’re all being fked this way.
Chad Thunderc~~~ is still pounding away and we pick up the bill so his dna challenged spawn can start up the Idiocrecy.
I hope this helps
^^^ NAILED IT.
And this is why the white race is dying out. We’re sensible enough to not impregnate women when we don’t……
1) Want the woman long term.
2) Don’t want a child.
3) Don’t have money to support the child.So just like US, Germany, Sweden, UK etc. Caucasians are stuck at 1.4-1.9 children per household. MEANWHILE in ghetto No. 242334 and Germanistan, Ukanistan London etc. (which wasn’t there until they kept absorbing millions of unskilled migrant workers all the while deporting our jobs to Asia) Poor Mexicans, Poor Muslims, Poor Blacks are just f~~~ing like crazy because they won’t have to pay for it, and making 5-8 kids. All while crying racism and demanding more benefits. (yes there are poor whites doing it, but they still hit the 1.4-1.9, and no they can’t cry racism (They could try but lol no))
The fiscally irresponsible immigrants and trash of the world are popping out 5-8 kids in first world countries and having the white middle class pay for it all. So not only are we not having kids because we can’t afford it, (taxes) we’re paying all our taxes to other people on Welfare to s~~~ out as many womb turds as possible. Many times there is no oversight to see if the money collected is actually spent on the f~~~ing kid (just like child support)!!!
This why the demographics of the US, Germany, Sweden etc all project whites becoming a minority in their own countries within 30 years. (Not including any extra illegal immigrants allowed to just freeload). Eastern Europe, Asia, Africa, South America aren’t being phased out at this rate so why is the West? Feminism and liberal idiocy. Women who are broke complain because they aren’t getting enough money per child, so they’ll s~~~ out a few more, sit on the check while your ass goes to work 40 hrs a week.
Sorry if this sounds racially insensitive, but I’m not going to defend an unskilled immigrant who makes 7 bucks an hour popping out 8 kids because Allah commands it, or the church doesn’t allow birth control (abstinence works you leeches) . The white middle class will be phased out, the taxes will be too much, jobs will be outsourced continually, crime rate will increase, and then you’ll end up like Detroit. All in the name of feel good multiculturalism and out of control feminism.
F~~~ these broke pregnant women (too late lol). This is the reason why females should NEVER be politicians, just like Angela Merkel they possesses almost ZERO foresight when it comes to their crippling altruism.
I’ll pay first to feed a kid rather than give my money to the Military Industrial Complex and murdering, nation-sovereignty-grabbing Corporations.
I’d rather the money going to all of the above be slashed. You have pretty much just argued two wrongs make a right.
I know young mothers who’d rather suck dick than ask anyone for a penny.
Prostitution should be legal, so I’d just consider these women as earning their keep.
Look at the state of the world’s economy, do you think there are jobs-a-gogo for everyone?Many of those guys you call losers are victims of a system that rather put them in prison than give them the tools to succeed in this economy. Have you seen the state of the school system lately?Not everone is a genius. What do you propose?
I propose we stop giving “strong independent” single moms such an easy out via tax dollars and revamp divorce laws so men just don’t get f~~~ed over by default nearly as much. Raising kids is a team sport, yet everything the government does rewards people who don’t do it as a team.
Kill anyone with under 150IQ so we can spend our money on those who are “really worth it?” Who are they?Yesterday we had an Abortion thread. Many of us are against killing babies in their mother’s womb but we’re now talking about excluding children from govment subsidies because the parents are morons?
I’m not against keeping people fed but our current system disgusts me. In my state one of our programs hands people cash cards with no limitations. They can go to an ATM and just withdraw cash…because the old food stamps are demeaning. F~~~ that. These people should have to go to state run distribution centers and receive a box every week with their rations for the week in it. I’ve seen way to many people here cashing their cards and buying booze, lottery tickets, etc. If they can afford that stuff they don’t need the assistance, and they sure as hell shouldn’t be buying things like lobster, crab legs, shrimp, steak, etc that most working people can’t afford or buy very rarely as a treat.
Eveyone has the right to have children, even the poor and dumb. It’s the High and Mighty of society that have to get their f~~~ing act together to turn this train wreck around, not families and certainly not children.
I think the poor and dumb should do the same thing most of the middle class couples I know have done. Set a budget and say “You know what, we are only going to have x kids because its all we can afford.” I know a ton of married, dual income couples who stopped at 1, 2, or 3 kids because its all they could afford…so no, I don’t agree that poor people somehow have the right to s~~~ out 6 kids, and I think part of the stipulation for single moms to get on any assistance programs for kids they can’t afford should be getting their tubes tied. If they ever get their s~~~ together its reversible, and in the mean time they shouldn’t be allowed to spit out more kids when they already have kid(s) they can’t afford.
You are correct in what you propose. It would require an entire overhaul of all the institutions that make our society a civilisation. Every facets of our lives are linked together. It would take at least two generations to accomplish. We won’t be alive to see the results.
Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!Each and every one told me that the reason they were having a baby is that it made them financially independent of their mothers so it made them fully adult women in their community. Non of them were going to raise their baby because their mothers were all 30 because they did the same thing when they were 15.
And it only gets worse form there. Half the babies born to those mothers are female, and will themselves go on to produce babies for a monthly check courtesy of the taxpayer. But the other half of those babies are male. They can’t get pregnant at 15 and ride the taxpayer funded gravy train. so how are they going to feed themselves? Are they going to work hard and study and make something of themselves? Or are they going to turn to criminality? Well the current prison situation answers that.
At this point our prisons are little more than the dumping ground for the toxic byproduct of the welfare vote farming industry.
This world is f~~~ed beyond repair. Our society is destroyed beyond hope and our environment is getting toxic, literally. Father Nature is going to show us the error of our ways but we’re bitching about money given to a bunch of innocent kids who aren’t even born yet?
This world is f~~~ed beyond repair mostly because we reward irresponsible little girls carte blanch for producing babies they cannot possibly afford to feed. Anyone with an ounce of sense can see that policy is utterly unsustainable and will only collapse horrifically. Prissy pollyanna concepts like “innocence” are irrelevant. Babies WILL starve. It is absolutely a choice between a few babies starving now or countless babies starving in the future, along with everyone else.
The only way to prevent either is by holding irresponsible mothers responsible. I know a number of stupid little girls who have had their children removed from them by the state. NOT ONE OF THEM IS PAYING CHILD SUPPORT. That’s the problem right there. Women have all the “right to choose” but absolutely none of the responsibilities for their choices.
On a related topic I have noticed something about single moms living off the state. Its usually something they have learned from friends and/or relatives. If you meet a woman and you want to know her opinion on being an intentional dead beat don’t ask her……just watch what kinds of friends she has and what her family does. There are a LOT of single moms that claim to be disabled or disadvantaged so that they do not have to work. And typically they ended up single because of multiple personal problems. They usually try to latch onto the kids dad first before trying the disabled/disadvantaged ploy. However if he divorces her or figures out she is a real problem he will take off ASAP. Then instead of getting a job they will fall back on the disabled/disadvantaged tactic. Now that I think about it I don’t really know a single mom who isn’t mooching off the system somehow either directly or indirectly (having parents pay some of your bills is still mooching by the way and happens way more than most people admit). In my state a woman can make a pretty substantial income and still get free lunches for the kids at school and all kinds of freebies. Pretty sickening.
Its a sick world.
Most women not only have no respect for men, they have no respect for their own children.
If a woman cared about her child, she would ensure the child would be born into a stable household, she would ensure that the family had put away a nest egg, she would care about her child’s future.
However, women have children to serve their own self-fulfilling needs, many have them because they are lonely and want unconditional love, unlike the love that women give to anyone else which is strictly conditional and usually financial. They then use these children to manipulate society to do their bidding.
With state wealth extraction …. you have become the provider and the state is hubby.
Don’t think it’s just you. We’re all being fked this way.
Chad Thunderc~~~ is still pounding away and we pick up the bill so his dna challenged spawn can start up the Idiocrecy.
Because in order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.
^^^ NAILED IT.
And this is why the white race is dying out. We’re sensible enough to not impregnate women when we don’t……
1) Want the woman long term.
2) Don’t want a child.
3) Don’t have money to support the child.So just like US, Germany, Sweden, UK etc. Caucasians are stuck at 1.4-1.9 children per household. MEANWHILE in ghetto No. 242334 and Germanistan, Ukanistan London etc. (which wasn’t there until they kept absorbing millions of unskilled migrant workers all the while deporting our jobs to Asia) Poor Mexicans, Poor Muslims, Poor Blacks are just f~~~ing like crazy because they won’t have to pay for it, and making 5-8 kids. All while crying racism and demanding more benefits. (yes there are poor whites doing it, but they still hit the 1.4-1.9, and no they can’t cry racism (They could try but lol no))
The fiscally irresponsible immigrants and trash of the world are popping out 5-8 kids in first world countries and having the white middle class pay for it all. So not only are we not having kids because we can’t afford it, (taxes) we’re paying all our taxes to other people on Welfare to s~~~ out as many womb turds as possible. Many times there is no oversight to see if the money collected is actually spent on the f~~~ing kid (just like child support)!!!
This why the demographics of the US, Germany, Sweden etc all project whites becoming a minority in their own countries within 30 years. (Not including any extra illegal immigrants allowed to just freeload). Eastern Europe, Asia, Africa, South America aren’t being phased out at this rate so why is the West? Feminism and liberal idiocy. Women who are broke complain because they aren’t getting enough money per child, so they’ll s~~~ out a few more, sit on the check while your ass goes to work 40 hrs a week.
Sorry if this sounds racially insensitive, but I’m not going to defend an unskilled immigrant who makes 7 bucks an hour popping out 8 kids because Allah commands it, or the church doesn’t allow birth control (abstinence works you leeches) . The white middle class will be phased out, the taxes will be too much, jobs will be outsourced continually, crime rate will increase, and then you’ll end up like Detroit. All in the name of feel good multiculturalism and out of control feminism.
F~~~ these broke pregnant women (too late lol). This is the reason why females should NEVER be politicians, just like Angela Merkel they possesses almost ZERO foresight when it comes to their crippling altruism.
This is what makes me want to retire as early as possible and go live somewhere cheap. I hate having to support such a f~~~ed up system. The worst part about it is if I have kids, I will raise them to be responsible and to have a good work ethic like I was raised…only the system they will have to support will be even more f~~~ed up. Its starting to seem like a better option to just skip out on kids…the less hard working, responsible people the next generation has, the faster the system will collapse. I’m so sick of all the PC bulls~~~…as a society we really need to start telling f~~~ ups they are f~~~ ups not victims, just like fat people need to be told they are unhealthy, not beautiful.
Anonymous11I don’t blame the pregnant single mothers and I have no problems paying my taxes knowing it’ll help feed a kid
I know I can be cruel bastard. The portion of this f~~~ed government’s budget spent on actually feeding people is so much smaller than say money spent on droning wedding parties via the MIC, .interest on the national debt, or furthering the politician’s cronies abilities to have the latest and greatest Gulfstream Jet on pre-order.
Personally, I think the hordes of irresponsible unaccountable Chad Thunderc~~~s who sired these poor children should chip in to feed their own kids. Even though many Brothers here have been rendered pauperized by the family courts, I believe very few of the them would be against making sure their children are truly taken care of and fed. I recently had a conversation with a client whose ex claimed to be purchasing something expensive for their son that was obviously for her. I instructed him to call the boy’s school and ask a very pertinent question. The result was the greedy c~~~ was caught in a dead lie.
I do have a problem with a government that has enabled the elite class to ship so many jobs overseas that the average working stiff has a more difficult time supporting a family. I blame the government for being the force behind feminism which has destroyed the nuclear family unit and created many bitter crazy cat ladies.
It’s a sad state of affairs that anyone should depend on the government to eat. My grandmother raised 5 children during the 30s depression up to the mid 40s after my grandfather died on zero welfare, zero food assistance and no governmental help. The reason is simple. One person could work and make enough money to support a family. She was a single mother.
Eveyone has the right to have children, even the poor and dumb.
Yes, we all have the right to have children, but does everyone in my neighborhood have the right to control my paycheck? Do they have the right to decide how much money I get to keep for myself after a humiliating 8 hour shift at work? Yes, I’m aware of how difficult it is to get a job and save money in our society—that’s why I don’t have kids! Would you agree that, as adults, we should be responsible for gaining the resources we need to survive?
I don’t like welfare whether it’s for kids or corporations. Am I a cold-hearted man? No. If any homeless person asked me for money, I’ll give him/her money. My argument is: I should decide how much money I want to donate to those who are down & out, not the government. The government didn’t work the 8 hour shift. I did the work, therefore, the money is rightfully mine. If these broke, pregnant women can’t get money from their irresponsible boyfriends, its not my responsibility. If they want to clean my apartment for an hour, I’ll be glad to hand them a $20 bill. One of the laws of the universe is: you have to give something of value in order to get something of value. The concept of welfare is: oh poor you, you make a mistake, let me TAKE money from some poor, miserable soul who has a crappy job and GIVE it to you so you can fell better about your unfortunate situation. The same can be said for bailing out banks and failed corporations in the USA. I don’t like it either way.
"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)
And then they say that the men are dead beats. The 20 women that I delivered, while a small N, all wanted nothing to do with the father of their child.
These fathers are no longer fathers. In our species both mothers and fathers love their children.
Fathers are written out of the script by poor single mothers because these mothers want complete control over the kids and the money that comes with them.
They won’t even put the fathers name on the birth certificate. Since most of the fathers are 15 year old children destined to a thug like the mothers are, the mothers don’t even list the father on the birth certificate.
They don’t want some dude or his family coming around to see their grandbaby. So these simple minded leeches are smart enough to keep half of the babies support system from having anything to do with the baby because it gives her more control.
btw: Even poor dads fight for custody of their kids, frequently citing the poor choices of the mother and the mother says she’s “afraid” and get’s a restraining order. I’ve seen it while I was waiting in family court with my own eyes.
#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.
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