My Progression to MGHOW

[Anonymous 11]

I was thinking while in flight the other day about the phases of my life that led to me going red pill.

The Early Years 16 to 24:

For some reason, parents trusted me as I guess their daughters always came home intact. Little did they know what was really going on. Sometimes I got lucky. Many times though the women would use me as an excuse to get out of the house to meet a Chad who was eagerly waiting. Much humiliation was had by me.

My MGHOW friend still gives me s~~~ about a certain Chad named Hercules. I swear I’m not making that name up either. He ran into me right as I was getting swapped out by that sorry c~~~ right after we finished the dinner I bought for the two of us.

The Middle Years 25 to 33:

The women were free from their parents. CPig was making very good money for a man his age. I call this the Walking Wallet/Dick Stand phase. I wasted way too much money on women and would get ejected from any relationship as soon as a hypergamy opportunity or a bad boy entered her life. I even almost got married, but luckily a scummy Chad saved my ass.

The Home Stretch 34 to 44(The Not Over Her Ex Phase):

This phase was kind of weird. I was making some serious money at a corporate job. I had a chronic run of meeting women who were not over there Exs. Luckily, I had learned my lesson about being a Walking Wallet so I became a skinflint towards women.

I would be used to make Exs jealous who would come crawling back to her, and out the door CPig went. I would meet ones who could not get over their exs even though the ex was long gone. I dated a few single moms in this phase who were still hung up on their exs. I even dated a f~~~ing widow who was hung up on her ex.

I still had hope that one day I’d meet my Unicorn.

No, at age 44, I met a borderline. The relations~~~ was like taking a baseball bat swing to the head and finished me off as far as ever wanting a relationship. Luckily, I escaped intact which is no small feat. I have not dated seriously since then, and we’re at five years now.

I’ve had some superficial interactions with women that made me realize that they were only associating with me to gain something for themselves. About four months after the last interaction, back in Fall 2014, I snapped into reality. Something had changed within me. I just did not know what it was.

In late December of 2014, I discovered mgtow.com. I read the Brother’s stories and realized I was not the only sucker being played by women out there. I joined, and my red pill knowledge grows by the day.

I have reached the point where I want nothing to do with women. They only bring trouble no matter what kind of relationship one has with them.

All hail the Fleshlight!

[Anonymous 7]

Good story.

[BurgundyParticipant 1525]

Great post, your stories and choice of naming each phase, had me thinking back on my own times, and reminded me exactly why I became a mgtow.

I raise my to you CP.

[AwakenedMGHOWParticipant 100]

This is a great story. I just wish more manginas, white knights, and pick up artists listened to these types of stories to avoid the mistakes. I’m currently 25 now and had the opportunity to do just that.

In certain chat rooms and forums I was always known as a “contrarian asshole” but I was also a contrarian to my own beliefs which led me to become a MGHOW.

I’m also glad more and more younger men are starting to wake up and avoid the mistakes older men and older MGTOW had made.

[experiencedParticipant]

@ Bunker,
Regarding cold feet: Consider self checking your HbA1c as far as peripheral blood flow vs. early diabetes.
And also maybe a differential blood pressure test for if distal’s too much off, it may be a sign of heart disease.
Ascertain that the bottom cushion of your chair isn’t interfering with return blood flow at the front of the cushion. Goal is even pressure, not more toward the front.
Sometimes people will lower the seat desk and or get up every so often from an alarm set across the room.
Hope this helps.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[WhackerGuy2030Participant 999]

Good post man. I had a similar progression. I made my own fork in the road 6 months ago. I had been p~~~ pounding myself for a high dollar high stress job since I got out of college. Shortly after I turned 33, I found myself hating myself and life more and more each day. I had already sworn off dating at this point, but I hadn’t taken my life back from work.

I had decided a few years back I was going to get rid of this harpee trying to f~~~ her way onto a house deed, get my bankroll built up and then head for the exits.

So in July ’15 upped and quit my big shot job, and now I am a salesman making an adequate wage. I couldn’t be happier. I’m currently on my 3rd weekend in a row ice fishing and I still get Christmas morning crazy every time a fish shows up to nibble on the jig. When I was dating and working that job, I couldn’t muster the energy and interest to even go fishing.

[Anonymous 11]

Thanks guys! We each came here our own way. We each go our own way.

Modern feminism really got kicking about the time we older MGTOWs were born. There was no general knowledge available for men to protect themselves for far, far too many years.

MGTOW is a natural reaction to modern feministic gynocentrism not re-discovered until after 40 +/- years after the initial shockwave of this strain of feminism hit the World back in the 60s.

Witness the cultural change of TV programming from say 1965 to 1974 as it was a front of that shockwave. The rise to prominence of my hideous avatar too.

Younger MGTOWs are indeed fortunate to have the tools available for them rather they choose the monk or non-monk paths. You will avoid much financial and emotional pain.

At least we older MGTOWs are fortunate to have had it for a lesser part of our lives even though many of us did some boneheaded s~~~.

Happy International MGTOW day to our Aussie, Asian, and Euro Brothers. 5.5 hours to go here.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

@CPig – My path was very similar as well. Its not a handful of bad dates or a bad relationship that soured me on relations~~~s…its that the bulk of my experiences with dating and relations~~~s have been extremely negative…how many times do I need to get burned before I stop playing with fire? Its also pretty evident just looking at other people’s relations~~~s…how many other guys do I need to watch play with fire and get burned before coming to the conclusion that I’ll get burned for playing with fire as well?

Couple that with the decline in standards for women and I want nothing to do with them. When I look at my grandparent’s generation, most of those women were classy, loving women who respected their husbands and were team players, not selfish c~~~s.

The icing on the cake is the high divorce rates predominantly filed on behalf of women and biased laws that all to often f~~~ men over. Who in their right mind would want to deal with any of that s~~~? The price for a woman is at an all time high and the quality of the product at an all time low.

[Anonymous 11]

@beer:

MGTOW cynics say “Oh, you just had a bad experience!”. No, there is a long term pattern of bulls~~~ here. My patterns were hypergamy, Chads and Exs. I’m an example of a never married man who arrived at MGTOW

Women have degenerated. I was born to a mother who was in her mid-40s. I inherited my younger than my age looks from her.

I was exposed to a lot of older ladies. These women had class and were very feminine. The men from that generation were most fortunate. No fault divorce did not exist and the women actually had values and were worth a s~~~. People can mock MGTOWs for pointing out this fact. I knew these women as a child and young man. Now, they are mostly all passed.

My mistake was not recognizing that my generation was as f~~~ed up as they are sooner than I did. Again, the NAWALT delusion strikes again.

Beer wrote:

The price for a woman is at an all time high and the quality of the product at an all time low.

Very well put!!!

[Dunn GoofdParticipant 119]

Great contribution Cpig, younger MGTOWs like myself benefit from your experience greatly.

It is a dangerous world for young men that are unaware of how modern society works. I remember it being different even in the 90s and early 2000s, and things change very rapidly in favor of the exploitation and emasculation of men. And the funny thing is, even though men are accused of being violent, we are not even reacting to this paradigm shift. Most men just willfully obey it and some go just go MGTOW.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Anonymous wrote:

I was exposed to a lot of older ladies. These women had class and were very feminine. The men from that generation were most fortunate. No fault divorce did not exist and the women actually had values and were worth a s~~~. People can mock MGTOWs for pointing out this fact. I knew these women as a child and young man. Now, they are mostly all passed.

Exactly. When I look at my grandparents, great aunts and uncles, grand parents of friends that I’ve met, and even just some of the older people I’ve met through work that are all pushing 70+ now or deceased…the women are simply different. I know couples in their 70s that have been married for 50+ years that I still see holding hands when they go out for dinner, and having date nights together, and they still genuinely enjoy and respect each other.

I look at their kids that are all 40-50s now and you can see the apple definitely fell far from the tree. The women just aren’t the same, divorce rates have sky rocketed, and often times it seems the divorced are the lucky ones because the ones that haven’t divorced yet are just f~~~ing miserable. I look at my generation, millennials, and I don’t even want to deal with these women. They’re even worse…kids out of wedlock with losers, they don’t take care of themselves at all…so many fatties and chicks that just look worn out and beat up by 30 from all the carousel riding, smoking, and drinking, they’re “strong independent women” who want a walking wallet who know how to use the courts to get what they want, rather than marry young and build a life together they want to ruin theirs then find someone decently established to fix it for them(just to get divorced and go wreck it again), etc.

Its like women in their 60s right now were the transition decade…some bit for feminism, some didn’t. Most women older than that didn’t fall for it as they already realized they had it pretty damn good by the time feminism started gaining traction, and women younger grew up with feminism ideals as the norm and are all f~~~ed up beyond all belief.

Its like the whole time you were raised, society whispered in your ear, be a good guy, work hard, become successful and you’ll find a great wife that is the equivalent of a ferrari! So you be a decent human being, you work hard, and you become successful all the while watching women your age repeatedly get pumped and dumped by chads and bad boys, just to realize that when the women want to marry up you aren’t getting a ferrari, you get a 15 year old camry that needs a new transmission for the price of the ferrari, and when you say no thanks, I’ll just keep walking, society can’t figure out what the problem is.

In the end its pretty funny, because guys like us have just come to the conclusion that modern women are not worth it, it kind of stinks not to have an old school classy, trustworthy, respectable woman, but ultimately no wife is better than a modern woman. Meanwhile, men haven’t really changed that much, so the thought of never marrying for a woman seems like punishment, like a failure when they realize they’ll never have either the loving partner their grandfather was for their grandmother, or the whipping boy their dad was for their mom. They want to point the finger at men, and blame men, but what they really need to do is look in the mirror.

Anonymous wrote:

My mistake was not recognizing that my generation was as f~~~ed up as they are sooner than I did. Again, the NAWALT delusion strikes again.

I know when I was growing up, my template for what a good woman was was based upon all the positives I witnessed…basically my idea of a good woman is what most older women were. In my early 20s it was easy to overlook a bit of stupidity on behalf of women, I thought they’d grow out of it and fit the template, but by the time I got to my late 20s, after 10 solid years of women not fitting the template at all, that’s about when I gave up on them.

Unfortunately for them by the time most of them admit to themselves they need to be a bit more old school and fit the traditional good woman template to find a decent husband, its too late for them…a good woman isn’t dragging some other man’s children into a relationship, a good woman isn’t dragging a mountain of debt behind her, and a good woman certainly hasn’t taken so many c~~~s she’s ashamed to even give an honest answer how many she’s had. I’d rather just go on a vacation where prostitution is legal and f~~~ my brains out for a couple weeks…the women are equally dirty but at least I don’t have to worry about kids, debt, or any legal issues with them.

[Anonymous 11]

The two big inflection points for me were the almost got married one and the borderline. Each one took a lot of energy to overcome that would have been better directed towards things that would benefit me.

I served for the almost got married one as both a dick stand and walking wallet. I supported her financially while she went to school for her career. Yes, she led me on in tricking me to believe we had a future.

As soon as her graduation came within two months of sight, Chad popped in and took over the reigns. Chad is now a mooch on her. Karma has gotten both of them in spades. A mutual friend was telling me the other day about how I was working it only to watch it blow up to smithereens. Thus, began my skinflint phase.

The borderline one was really the finishing blow for me though it took one more really minor encounter to push me over to the point of accepting reality. The borderline called me a cheapskate too a badge I wear with honor.

At my age, I want nothing to do with any washed out post wall train wrecks. The young ones are just too bizarre. I am done.

Such is my life, and I accept it. There are many benefits to running solo.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Anonymous wrote:

The borderline called me a cheapskate too a badge I wear with honor.

Hah! Literally every single time in my life I’ve been made fun of for being “cheap,” it has been by someone in massive debt.

: YOU’RE CHEAP.

: you’re broke

Conversation over lol.

[AttonParticipant]

Such is my life, and I accept it. There are many benefits to running solo.

Like not having everything you have literally turned to ash.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

Anonymous wrote:

reached the point where I want nothing to do with women. They only bring trouble no matter what kind of relationship one has with them.

Great Post CP-

I can relate to the relations~~~ you had at 44 which was like taking a baseball bat to your head.
A lot of us have had a “baseball bat” moment, myself included. When I went through my moment, I didn’t realize others were having similar experiences. I’m glad I found MGTOW.
After a few red pills, many seem to be less and less interested in women because all they bring is trouble and drama.
Thanks CP

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