My Personal MGTOW Victory

[NomadicExpatParticipant 1785]

I did it Gents, I f~~~ing DID IT. I went my own way and passed on a golden opportunity to get into a relationship with a beautiful, tall, skinny 19 year old girl.

As detailed in previous posts of mine, I started messing around with her at work (I know, I’m an idiot) but f~~~ it was boring and she was flirty. I’m twice her age, and for some reason that really did it for me… she got in under the radar, as I won’t give a 30+ something the time of day.

Anyways, throughout our little flirting/messing around phase, I just stopped texting and snapchatting altogether. I couldn’t f~~~ing stand it. GOD it was such a time drain, and she couldn’t keep a conversation going for s~~~. I’m sure we ALL remember this from high school/college dating days.

So today she got pouty that I wasn’t playing the game like other guys do. She let me know that another guy asked for her number, said HE wanted to chat on text, etc.

I’m going to be honest. My first internal reaction was to get p~~~ed. The lizard brain, deeply imbedded in my skull yelled, “MINE!! She’s F~~~ING MINE, I’d better do something quick! Step up my game, kick it into high gear. Time to sweep her off her feet.”

But I took a moment. I observed the Ego. I saw what was happening to my body, my mind. This was the first overt act of hypergamy/beta orbiter browsing. She was s~~~-testing me, trying to get me to “try harder”, to do more.

I then took a full account of what my personal goals are at the moment. To get FULLY out of debt. To raise my credit score. Then buy a house within five years with the VA loan, start my garden and chicken coop, and start my own small business.

To do this, my budget is TIIIIIGHT. I mean, no dining out, definitely no date nights, no hotel rooms, no vacations, none of that s~~~. She simply doesn’t fit into the budget whatsoever.

Add to the fact that I’m an introvert and NEED personal time, I simply can’t pencil her into my schedule. Certainly not endlessly texting nonsense at all hours of the day. When I finally get a day off of work, I’m doing WHAT I WANT TO DO, and that’s certainly not entertaining her (we have NOTHING in common).

So it went down like this:

Her: “You don’t ever text me. This guy just asked for my number and wants to text all the time. He said he wants to take me out.”

Me, after taking a moment to reflect (I was saved by work getting busy immediately after she told me): “Well thats good, you should take him up on it!”

She was taken aback. Of all the reactions she expected, this was not one of them. She back pedaled, said she wouldn’t, but I already had my out. I played it cool, still acted the same flirty way I always do with her, but refused to take the bait into a relationship. I refuse to take her on dates or mindlessly text. If she wants to “hang out”, then by all means. But a relationship? No means No.

I knew I had f~~~ed up by starting to mess around with her, and I finally got off the blue-pill highway on the first off ramp .

A relationship with just doesn’t fit in with my personal goals at the moment. I’m the Captain of this Ship, and it’s got plenty of leaks to fix after the divorce raping. I’m getting my house in order, and entertaining cupcake doesn’t fit in the schedule.

I thought with my big brain today and I’m proud of it. My apologies for gloating, but I wanted to brag, I’m genuinely proud of myself.

[MarketWatcherParticipant]

Good job Sir!

[Anonymous 7]

NomadicExpat wrote:

I thought with my big brain today and I’m proud of it. My apologies for gloating, but I wanted to brag, I’m genuinely proud of myself

Eh, f~~~ apologies.

Well done.
Enjoy the homemade fried chicken and veggies you are gonna have in a few years.

[X11Spectator 4520]

You will now have to pay for bruising her female ego, tough time ahead bro.

[John Woods 13Participant 2855]

Good for you sir. I raise this glass I am enjoying to you.
And thanks for the detailed description of your thought process, as I’m going through a remotely similar situation myself(getting hit on by young women, but so far I’ve never engaged any of them) and I appreciate any insight that helps me keep my guard up and keep me from straying from my path.

The answer is NO. “I could but I won’t”. Memini murum!

[Jack HarperParticipant 2863]

I think you handled that really well.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22503]

You know you don’t have to be married to be falsely accused or go thru the drama.

All dating is, is her treating you as being married and exclusive to her, but her being able to bail that much easier.

Dating is her test-run to see how well you would do as her husbank.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22503]

I would not be surprised if complaints arise at work.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[Anonymous 43]

lololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololo

you DARED to say NO!

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO

She wanted you, and the other guy as an orbiter…s~~~ now she has only second choice…lol and who are you to tell her no? lololol

oh im crying and dying here.

Conversations with 19 year olds….im surrounded by that s~~~ all day, it is mindless and vapid.

Double ginger ale for you my brother!

[NomadicExpatParticipant 1785]

X11 wrote:

You will now have to pay for bruising her female ego, tough time ahead bro.

Yeah I’m curious how this is going to effect the hamster spinning its wheel.

After rejecting the s~~~ test altogether, SHE stepped up her flirting (play hitting me, establishing kino and keeping her hands on me) and I’ll admit I teased back. I know I’m playing with fire, but I’m establishing that a physical relationship is welcome, but I’m not “dating material”.

What’s going for me is HER extremely high SMV. She’s in college and surrounded by guys who will gladly take her off my hands. I’m kind of hoping for that to happen, but until then I’ll take the physical perks.

I do not want a relationship at all, I don’t have the time, patience or finances for it.

[Anonymous 43]

you do not need the s~~~ vortex surrounding this chick. You stated your goals, stick to them.

[RemovedParticipant 4676]

Fantastic! Your freedom is yours. Never surrender it!

[NomadicExpatParticipant 1785]

John Woods 13 wrote:

And thanks for the detailed description of your thought process, as I’m going through a remotely similar situation myself(getting hit on by young women, but so far I’ve never engaged any of them) and I appreciate any insight that helps me keep my guard up and keep me from straying from my path.

Good luck brother! We’re pioneering into new territory, paving our own way. She clearly doesn’t know how to react to this, as I’m sure most females don’t.

I’m SURE she’s bitching about it at this very moment to the hive. I’m anticipating being accused of sending “mixed signals” and the like, and I’ve experienced those myself in the past.

Not sure how she’s going to react in the long run, but the fact of the matter is I really don’t care.

What I WON’T do is ice her out, act cold or be a dick to her. That would SURELY cause work related issues, as many have accurately brought up.

I’m still the flirty, fun, fit guy she’s always seen. I will continue to act the way I always have and won’t change my behavior at all, unless she suddenly shows signs of disinterest. Then I’ll be cordial and professional. If she does end up dating some guy, I’ll honestly congradulate her.

I wish I could go MONK, but I just can’t do it yet guys. I’m a sucker for looooong legs up to her neck! I just refuse to pay or simp out. I’m also not chasing tail anymore. This one just fell in my lap and I couldn’t resist.

[NomadicExpatParticipant 1785]

Anonymous wrote:

Well done.
Enjoy the homemade fried chicken and veggies you are gonna have in a few years.

Thank you, Sir! That’s the REAL goal. Simple, sustainable living that provides a true bountiful harvest. Assets that actually increase in value over time, providing a wide return on investment.

Nothing that can be found with the modern woman.

[AposematicParticipant 2671]

The s~~~ test turnabout alone is worthy of MGTOW of the day

Afinogyny.. from the Greek Afino {to abandon/ to set down/ to leave /to allow/ to let } + Gyny {Women} MGHOW’s philosophy to not engage women without “hating them”. Narcorca =Narcissistic Orca typically spouting to a bathroom mirror taking an arms length selfie ; Wallinate describes post wall females whose SMV is terminally negligible New Years resolution "To not make women happy" . Instadestitue: yet another Neologism for Men that cohabit with women that decide to pull the handle of intervention orders.

[The man in the mountainParticipant 4102]

Just make sure to keep an eye out, she knows you are ready to exit the door, she could try to trap you with a baby and force you to marry her “because you gotta do the right thing” wink wink”.

Women will trap a man like you if they think they can’t do better.

[Anonymous 3]

You merely passed one little s~~~ test. You still f~~~ed up big by getting involved with her at work in the first place, but you knew that already.

And man, don’t lie to yourself, you ARE chasing tail. You even said it yourself that you were wasting a ton of time by texting and snapchatting with her like a high school kid, when you two have nothing in common.

The reason she s~~~ tested you with the thing about guys asking for her number in the first place was because you’re thirsty and she sees it. Make no mistake about it, she knows she’s an airhead, she knows how uninteresting and boring she is, she knows she’s hot and that’s the only thing going for her, and the fact that you put up with her empty personality showed enough, that you’re thirsty, because had she been a fat ugly chick, you wouldn’t have even given her 3 seconds of your time texting her or some s~~~.

You should think with the big brain more. I’m glad you passed one s~~~ test, but without the details, I’m pretty certain you’ve failed at least 10+ in the process. Be careful out there.

[NomadicExpatParticipant 1785]

Thanks O2tosin!

Maninthemountain, I will surely be careful with this one, but her being 19 and high in sexual market value is definitely playing in my favor. She is actually a Deans List student in College and has a decent career path, she’s not looking for real serious stuff at all…. yet. At this point she was just trying to scare me into actually taking her on dates and giving her more attention, of which I firmly refuse.

Women in my age bracket (mid 30s) are an ENTIRELY different story, however. My last LTR attempted EXACTLY what you described, I escaped just in the nick of time. She was mid 30s and all at once got baby rabies, extremely concerned with the health of her eggs and uterus.

I got out of there FAST. Haven’t been even remotely attracted to an older woman (28+) since. They all reek of desperation and cling to Disney dreams of Prince Charming taking care of them for life.

In the end though, she will be the same. She will graduate, probably move on and get her master’s, work her way low-level into her chosen career field, then realise the WALL is coming fast and try to Marry up and get pregnant with a quickness in order to “have it all”.

[OneLaneOnlyPlsParticipant 1747]

NomadicExpat wrote:

I started messing around with her at work (I know, I’m an idiot) but f~~~ it was boring and she was flirty.

Don’t crap where you eat. Now you have to deal with a immature c*nt at work, who can conjure up any story she wants about you.

I have been exactly where you are, and I can tell you the mindfuks afterwards… it wasn’t worth it bro. I don’t care how hot you think she is, or she thinks she is.

She is a meathole, with a mouth, one that won’t stay shut.

Put yourself FIRST. Be selfish.

[NomadicExpatParticipant 1785]

Anonymous wrote:

You merely passed one little s~~~ test.

I’m glad you passed one s~~~ test, but without the details, I’m pretty certain you’ve failed at least 10+ in the process. Be careful out there.

I didnt “pass” the s~~~ test. I didn’t play. I drew a line in the sand for what I’m willing to put up with and not. I refuse to “date” or get in a relations~~~.

I’m not wavering on this. Not one date. Not one dollar. Not one minute of my time, unless it is in person, alone in a suitable location for sexual activities.

Yes, her sexual attractiveness f~~~s me in the head royally. That’s the only reason why I even put up with the flirty behavior… at this point in time I enjoy it.

Look guys, I get it. Going Monk is the only safe option out there. I KNOW this.

But I have to learn the hard way. I have to prove to myself that I can (or cannot) have sex with a female without falling into the beta simp mindset. So far I’m holding out pretty strong.

If I catch the feelz for this girl then that’s it; there’s no other recourse than true Monk mode.

Instincts made me consider grasping for a moment. Thoughts made me completely let her go at the first sign of trouble.

She’s not mine, it’s just my turn.

Best analogy: she’s like a “free weekend vacation” where the hosts constantly try and sell a timeshare condo.

I’m just here for the free drinks and resort accommodations. I’m not buying, I didn’t even bring my wallet.

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