My MGTOW Intro

[wohodude100Participant 19]

Well, I’ve been a long time lurker around several different forums. But my first foray into this whole manosphere, or mens rights, mra, mgtow, red pill whatever you want to call it (I wish I knew a better word to describe it) was ironically back in my college years when I began watching the young turks. I knew very little about politics and was not very interested in politics (or anything much really, just a dumb, young and naive kid) but it was the first time I heard political talk radio and the first time I heard anyone talk about politics in a way that caught my attention or interested me.

However, what caught my attention to this whole red pill thing was when the host Cenk Uygur and hostess Ana Kasparian (and pretty much everyone else in the world who isn’t mra/mgtow) consistently laughed at and made fun of the men. In the beginning I used to identify as feminist since at the time I bought into the feminism is for equality, so if you’re not feminist, you’re a bigot! So I consistently agreed on their views on politics, and I agreed when they chastised violent criminals who attacked women, but it would always rub me the wrong way “If equal is equal, then why is he laughing and mocking men for being victims? If equal means equal, shouldn’t he equally condemn women who attack men, who legally steal all their money, property, kids, and assets when they’ve done nothing wrong to deserve that? I lurked in the young turks chat and I would constantly post that and attack feminists who claimed to be for “equality”, even when their bulls~~~ arguments “well hes bigger and stronger than her! so he should just accept it or walk away!”

As I learned more about the hypocrisy and hate that feminism was and spread/cultivated, I spread out to other sites such as http://www.antimisandry.com/content/ or Angry Harry. I soon learned about MRA’s and decided that I was an MRA, especially back in 2013-14 when AVFM started making the news and had their rallies or conferences. I kept seeing the word MGTOW and had no idea what it was, until I see the fiasco of WoolyBumbleBee vs MGTOW piqued my interest to check it out. I first read MarkyMark’s blog and then found Nacho’s old mgtow forums which I found I liked more and more of what I was seeing and realized that MGTOW was really more accurate description of me and what I was looking for.

When Key Master put up this site, I knew this was THE PLACE. I bookmarked KeyMaster’s profile reply page and especially love checking out keymasters posts. I just wish he wouldn’t delete female, feminist, white knight, manginas, or other trolls posts just so I could see KeyMaster in full context curbstomp these bitches, but then again he makes the rules here, not me.

But anyways, back to my intro. I was always a fat shy nerdy kid and from a very young age and I learned that very quickly that 1)A profound sense of loneliness is a fundamental part of being male and 2)As a guy you’re only value is in your usefulness, how well you can serve society and women. It didn’t take me very long to learn that I was NOT attractive to women at all. That when I tried to talk to them at best they would make excuses to end the conversation, at worst outright insult me and call me a fat nerdy pencildick loser. My whole life I always thought I was a loser who couldn’t get a girlfriend. Until I gave up on that and ironically during high school when I had hit the point that I had given up and stopped caring about impressing women and getting a girlfriend that I not only had my first girlfriend, but my second one as well!

Theres a lot to be said about not giving a f~~~ about women. Before the whole time I would ask my mom how to get a girlfriend (everytime I asked my dad he would nervously say “Ask your mother that question”) she would give me the usual bulls~~~. Well you just have to be nice and polite, be courteous and be chivalrous and always offer to help and give and pay for them and eventually you’ll just meet the right one! As you all know, that failed MISERABLY. I opened doors, I offered to pay for their lunch, I offered to carry their books and take their pictures with their cameras, and as you can imagine I was treated as nothing more than a glorified DOORMAT for being “the bigger man” or “the nice guy”. Girls still wouldn’t talk to me, and if they did they couldn’t even remember my name.

But going back, before I took the red pill I thought that there was something wrong with me, why all the “popular/cool kids” were always taking selfies or sticky pics, and how come I didn’t do that, why was it my first instinct to just take a picture of the object, and not myself? Maybe there was something wrong with me, that was why I was a loser this whole time. Maybe it was because I was too fat, too nerdy, didn’t dress well enough, didn’t gel and spike my hair well enough, wasn’t blue eyed and white, wasn’t black and gangstah and cool enough, didn’t have enough “game”, all that time I always thought I was such a loser and hated myself so much that I was very close to either killing myself, or pulling an Elliot Rodgers. But now reflecting back, it was miracle that there was always something inside me that said no, f~~~ what society says, you will not kill anyone, you will not kill yourself because f~~~ what society tells you, you continue to be you. And thank god for MGTOW and all the movements that dare to say “men have value as human beings” and says f~~~ you to the mainstream message that we have to serve society/women to have value, MGTOW probably saved my life!

But looking back now, all this time I realized I was actually fortunate or lucky to have been invisible to women! Because when I look back on it now, the whole societal/mainstream message about you have to be successful with women in order to be successful was bulls~~~! The whole if you’re a loser, if you don’t wine/dine and bend over backwards to please women then you won’t get laid and if you don’t get laid then you’re a loser was all bulls~~~! Because look at several successful men such as Bill Clinton, Tiger Woods, or Bill Cosby. Extremely rich, powerful, and successful men and yet all it took was ONE woman pointing the finger and accusing them and their lives and careers were DESTROYED. Was their problem that they were “fat neckbeard virgin losers living in their moms basement?” Hell no! Their problem was that they were TOO SUCCESSFUL with women, and thats what happens. If ppl ask me why I’m MGTOW or why I’m not married or how come I don’t have a girlfriend, I explain MGTOW as this: All it takes is ONE woman to destroy your life, similar to JohntheOther’s gun in the room analogy. When you invite a woman into your life, you’re giving her a metaphorical gun to destroy your life with. Would ANYBODY in their right mind do that? Would the woman you’re going out with, having sex with, married to, ever tolerate you the man having that kind of power and that kind of gun to her head? I always used the example to my blue pill friends who are married: Say for example you decide to come home one day and say “You know what babe. I’m f~~~ing sick and tired of working. I’m stressed out, I’m not happy, so I’m going to quit and retire early. We’ve got enough money you and I to either work part time and not work at all as long as we cut back. So let’s move into a smaller place, we probably won’t be able to afford kids so lets not have any, and we won’t be able to eat out so we’ll just shop smart and cook at home.” Do you think for a second any of their wives would tolerate that? Hell no! They’d divorce them and take everything in a heartbeat the moment they suggested that they didn’t want to be a plowhorse or a wage slave anymore.

MGTOW (at least to me) is about maximizing freedom (which is why its no surprise most MGTOW’s are libertarian, but politics aside). Obviously there will always be some limitations (money, law, taxes, etc.) but we want to MAXIMIZE our FREEDOM some that way if I decide you know what, I f~~~ing hate my job and my boss is an asshole, I’m gonna quit, and live in a log cabin and just live frugally for the rest of my life. I have the freedom to do that if I’m not with a women and have no kids. THAT is what its about. F~~~ the white picket fence, f~~~ the leave it to beaver bulls~~~, f~~~ the nuclear family, and especially f~~~ the PUA’s whose worship of vagina is so absolute that they have to come to this site and attack us for not buying into their bulls~~~.

Well sorry for the long rant, I’m just glad to be here and previously my old outdated laptop kept crashing when I tried to use the sites awesome graphics and fancy features, so hopefully now I’ll be able to be a little bit more active around the forums. I love this place!

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Welcome home brother.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[Anonymous 0]

Welcome WohoDude,
Jump in. We have a lot of fun here.

[NerevarParticipant 8040]

Welcome, brother!

"One of the best things internet exposed is just how insane women are." - Freeman_K

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

welcome pal!
i’m glad you found the path to freedom
enjoy the website and the forums.

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[Anonymous 24]

wohodude100 wrote:

Because look at several successful men such as Bill Clinton, Tiger Woods, or Bill Cosby. Extremely rich, powerful, and successful men and yet all it took was ONE woman pointing the finger and accusing them and their lives and careers were DESTROYED.

Firstly, very well written, good to have you here. Secondly about the Libertarian reference, I would say some on here are Libertarian, but not all. There are many military, and pro-U.S. military action types here who claim to be MGTOW but really are only in reference to women. Personally, I think being in any military is the least MGTOW thing one can do in life, and if it is the U.S. military, then you are nothing more than a group of White Knighting slaves who are fine with not only giving up your sovereignty, but also fine with taking sovereignty away from others based on lies.

Clinton??? Well, research all that stuff further and you will realize a lot of people died mysteriously around him back then. Find the documentary The Clinton Chronicles, it is a good start… Not that I believe all of it considering who produced it, but I do not recall any lawsuits… And he was hardly destroyed by it all, in fact, his wife will likely be the next President…

Anyhow, when I was your age I was clueless to all that you have already leaned, it is good to see younger guys figuring things out, I guess growing up with the internet helps as you can find all points of view in one place. Another thing to remember, as you age it is more about money and status to women, looks will not take one as far as they did in high school.

[HitmanParticipant]

welcome !
enjoy !

[BlacqueJacqueShellacqueParticipant 6890]

wohodude100 – Welcome young man. I was not taking selfies in high school either. Cell phones were attached to heavy batteries and mounted in business men’s cars, and they didn’t even have cameras. I am forty and I am greatful for this website as well. I have only recently become MGTOW but I am happy to walk this path with you. Peace brother.

[AttonParticipant]

KeyMaster is a kind of all c~~~ punters, welcome to the forums.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[SlingshotParticipant 171]

wohodude100 wrote:

F~~~ the white picket fence, f~~~ the leave it to beaver bulls~~~, f~~~ the nuclear family, and especially f~~~ the PUA’s whose worship of vagina is so absolute that they have to come to this site and attack us for not buying into their bulls~~~.

Welcome Wohodude100. Nice into. I totaly agree with you on this line of thinking. All of the above groups in your list can go f~~~ themselves as far as I am concerned.

I’m still in a relations~~~, but gradulally de-programming/conditioning and this is ‘The Place’ to come to as far as I’m concerned. I hope to split without being ruined financially, stealthly but the ending is inevitable.

I learn something every time I log in.

[Anonymous 42]

<hair blown back> <falling over> I’m convinced you’re 100% MGHOW!!

wohodude100 wrote:

MGTOW probably saved my life!

Spontaneous MGTOW saved my life! Almost like a catalyst reaction, the world shifted, transformed before my very eyes, the truth shined through, and during it all I remained the same, the only difference is I found was peace and genuine happiness, I became content in who I was. I learned to love myself…

wohodude100 wrote:

All it takes is ONE woman to destroy your life

It only takes 1 ACT from 1 WOMAN to destroy a MAN Welcome to the brotherhood of enlightened, welcome to MGTOW!

[505vikingoParticipant 521]

Welcome Brother,

You have come to the right place. You are not an anomaly, a freak, or a geek. You are just plain smart. Common sense is very uncommon anymore. Rely on using common sense in you decision making like you are doing now, and you will be just fine. Let the good times roll!

[David199Participant 47]

Welcome my good fellow. Feel easy amongst friends.

[EtrangereParticipant 706]

Welcome

[wohodude100Participant 19]

Thank you for the warm welcome gentlemen. It feels good to be welcomed among like minded comrades. Thank you.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

@wohodude100 Its’ a pleasure to welcome you! And loved your testimony. Just sat down to read it now. (Weekends are when I binge & catch up on intros) Welcome aboard to “THE PLACE”.

Cheers and have a spectacular weekend.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

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