My Issue With "Anti-Feminist" Women

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

I know we’ve had topics on this before, but the more I see it, the more something bugs me about these “anti-feminist” women.

1) When they comment on an anti-feminist forum that has primarily men on it, a ton of men will shower her with compliments and “likes/upvotes.” It does nothing more than feed her ego and attention cravings.

2) When women make videos about anti-feminism, THEY are the ones that get famous and actual media coverage for it. Nevermind the many good men that have made the same videos making the EXACT same points for YEARS. Lauren Southern is an example of this. Men like Gavin McInnes make great anti-feminist points and someone like Gavin is considered “controversial” and a “misogynist” by some media outlets and many women. Lauren does the same and gets praised by news outlets for being “different.” Sure, she might be attractive, but that’s about the only thing making her more “famous” to society than men.

3) If any man DARE ask her why she’s anti-feminist but still believes in men being a part of the metaphorical “plantation,” he’s attacked by the same woman (or gets some stupid emotional answer like “wow, can’t I have a voice too?”), as well as a bunch of sudden white knights and PUAs who would normally consider themselves “red-pill.” They’ll even go as far as to compliment the girl who’s making these points to “reassure her” they “need” her.

I’ll agree with logical points made by women, but those are so hard to trust sometimes.

4) A lot of the same “anti-feminist”/”egalitarian” women are still also strongly pro-abortion and pro-gay marriage/transsexualism (or name some other left-wing thing here). Now, as for those kinds of things, think how you want to on them…I don’t care what your opinion is on it! But these women are LOUD about their support for those things. They’ll demonize Christian men like myself for being anti-abortion (“You care more about some TISSUE than a LIVING WOMAN!?”). They’ll attack those same men for their moral views as well. They sound worse than the Westboro Baptist Church sometimes. I see them literally wish harm upon people that don’t agree with them on occasion.

Know what they sound like when they’re out there supporting/protesting these things? The feminists they claim to hate.

[chirParticipant]

Most “anti-feminist” women are only anti-feminist because they have male children. They look at the suicide rates, problems boys have with the gynocentric schools, and the massive number of boys who are forced to become drugged zombies from the time they enter public schools. They are only anti-feminist because they have children being affected by this f~~~ed up system.

It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

[Anonymous 42]

Anti feminists are 100% covered by feminist laws!
When Anti feminists actively start as a collective to abolish such laws (not vote for those who enact these laws), that will the day they’ll redeem themselves with me, until then, their all feminists by the dictates of law!
Women altered the law, now the law ruins women and forces the men into exile, great f~~~ing job feminists, 50 years strong! lets see what the next 50 years bring!

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

That’s the way I think of it. If they actually got up off their bums and actually actively WORKED to abolish the laws, I’d start to believe it. Working towards something that doesn’t necessarily benefit them exclusively doesn’t seem to be on their list of priorities.

[RoyDalParticipant]

chir wrote:

Most “anti-feminist” women are only anti-feminist because they have male children. They look at the suicide rates, problems boys have with the gynocentric schools, and the massive number of boys who are forced to become drugged zombies from the time they enter public schools. They are only anti-feminist because they have children being affected by this f~~~ed up system.

Agreed! They are only human, and therefore are all for all the benefits of law and custom coming to them at the expense of men. When their own child is paying a price and bearing the expense, then, and only then, it becomes an issue.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

Also, another thing that’s REALLY irking me today is that I’m reading a LOT of “anti-feminist”/”egalitarian” pages defending Bahar Mustafa.

That’s right. The girl who banned white men from her meetings and literally made a hashtag on Twitter titled “#KillAllWhiteMen”.

She got arrested for that horrid threat, and people even on the anti-feminist side are saying that’s against her “free speech.” –The HECK!? Supposedly arresting her and cheering for her arrest makes us like “feminists.”

NO. There’s a difference between someone saying “ugh, I HATE white men” and “KILL ALL WHITE MEN!”

She’s inciting a RIOT to kill all white men. If I had gone and said “kill all women!”, would I have been just “let go?” Of course not. I’d be under investigation IMMEDIATELY.

[Anonymous 1]

Anti-feminists are still gynocentric.
They just realized that, when it comes to manipulate us, persuasion is a better form of control than brute force. They care about men’s well being as much as feminists do: only when it suits them (or as long as we show our utility) and by trying getting away with a lip service at best.
Their methods may differ from feminism when it comes to manipulating men, but are the same when confronted with a different opinions (see how they “debunk” any adversaries that don’t align with their political views, for example. Same shaming and slander tactics). Besides, their end goal is also the same: keep men working so women can keep leeching living.
To hell with all of them, I say, feminists and anti-feminists a like, Neither of them care about men, both only wants what is best for women, on their own admission.

[SkeptiskParticipant 3679]

Governor Megachris% wrote:

Also, another thing that’s REALLY irking me today is that I’m reading a LOT of “anti-feminist”/”egalitarian” pages defending Bahar Mustafa.
That’s right. The girl who banned white men from her meetings and literally made a hashtag on Twitter titled “#KillAllWhiteMen”.
She got arrested for that horrid threat, and people even on the anti-feminist side are saying that’s against her “free speech.” –The HECK!? Supposedly arresting her and cheering for her arrest makes us like “feminists.”
NO. There’s a difference between someone saying “ugh, I HATE white men” and “KILL ALL WHITE MEN!”
She’s inciting a RIOT to kill all white men. If I had gone and said “kill all women!”, would I have been just “let go?” Of course not. I’d be under investigation IMMEDIATELY.

Exactly. She should burn for what she did when she discriminated against people based on sex etc. and she did it as part of her job.!!

"Expecting to find a decent woman on a dating site is like dumpster diving and expecting to come out with a gourmet meal." Won'tGetFooledAgain

[aeragoanParticipant 1186]

Never trust anti feminist women …they always plays devils advoacate..and get profits from both sides…

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

I can clearly see your point, Megachris% and therefore the most consequent reaction from all of us would be: ignore even those types of women, since in truth we don’t need them, or do we..?

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

Skeptisk wrote:

Exactly. She should burn for what she did when she discriminated against people based on sex etc. and she did it as part of her job

YES! She SHOULD be facing charges! The fear of “anti-feminists” is that if we charge her, then the government will start charging us “anti-feminists” for our opinions. As far as I remember, none of us MGTOW or anti-feminists or even MRAs have said “#KillAllWomen.” News flash to them: They will likely find a reason to arrest us anyway. For goodness’ sake, Emma Sulkowicz is an example of that. Accuse a man of something, and despite the fact that you’re lying, you can STILL make money and be defended while that poor guy had to PROVE his innocence. It’s already happening. We’re being arrested/charged for things we say or DON’T say, things we do or DON’T do. It’s about time a woman like this gets arrested for something she said about something that she COULD have done.

If she went and killed a white man, or if someone killed a white man in Bahar’s name, wouldn’t we be asking “what could we have done to prevent this!?” Well, it would have been too late. A white man would have been killed thanks to nothing happening from “#KillAllWhiteMen.”

Ned Trent wrote:

I can clearly see your point, Megachris% and therefore the most consequent reaction from all of us would be: ignore even those types of women, since in truth we don’t need them, or do we..?

Hey, they say they don’t need us, so why should we even OFFER ourselves to them? Good point as you usually make! 🙂

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

Yeah well, dude . . .

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Anonymous wrote:

Anti feminists are 100% covered by feminist laws!

It’s easy to speak about the pains of slavery when you’re the plantation owner’s daughter and live in the big house and there’s no chance in hell you’ll ever be whipped or forced to go work in the fields.

Start breaking some chains and burn that house to the ground and then we’ll talk, sister.

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

Stargazer wrote:

MG-Tower wrote:

Anti feminists are 100% covered by feminist laws!

It’s easy to speak about the pains of slavery when you’re the plantation owner’s daughter and live in the big house and there’s no chance in hell you’ll ever be whipped or forced to go work in the fields.
Start breaking some chains and burn that house to the ground and then we’ll talk, sister.

That was worded so perfectly, I may start using that exact analogy for many things.

[OhnoParticipant 668]

aeragoan wrote:

Never trust anti feminist women …they always plays devils advoacate..and get profits from both sides…

ill leave it as that, even though… if i took alot of time i could list many more sides they profit from.

Ned Trent wrote:

I can clearly see your point, Megachris% and therefore the most consequent reaction from all of us would be: ignore even those types of women, since in truth we don’t need them, or do we..?

YEAAAH anti feminist women are in the way! I am not s~~~ting you. they are on their own side.. they arent fighting for anything but for their own careers, income, attention and so on. They are smart, because they can bring up the same content as men told by men and get 10x the attention a man would get for his own work. You can use them on front instead of a guy ( good idea )… but they have no idealistic point of view at all.

[FrankyParticipant 2338]

Anonymous wrote:

Anti-feminists are still gynocentric.
They just realized that, when it comes to manipulate us, persuasion is a better form of control than brute force. They care about men’s well being as much as feminists do: only when it suits them (or as long as we show our utility) and by trying getting away with a lip service at best.
Their methods may differ from feminism when it comes to manipulating men, but are the same when confronted with a different opinions (see how they “debunk” any adversaries that don’t align with their political views, for example. Same shaming and slander tactics). Besides, their end goal is also the same: keep men working so women can keep leeching living.
admission.

Badkan knows what’s up.

[uchibenkeiParticipant 7965]

the enemy of my enemy is my ally. i’ll encourage and support anti-feminist women all day long. it’s like delegating work to employees.

I bathe in the tears of single moms.

[HuevonParticipant 68]

uchibenkei wrote:

the enemy of my enemy is my ally. i’ll encourage and support anti-feminist women all day long. it’s like delegating work to employees.

right. I would never let down anyone who fights for our rights.

There is a German woman writer called Esther Vilar. She brought out three books that criticized feminism already in the 1970s. She eventually decided to leave the country after she got beaten up by 3 furious women in a women’s restroom in Munich.
Women were against her, men did not stand up for themselves yet. So she stood all alone. If things had been different back then, we might not have the problems that we face today.
This is her first book: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcAWn2D8EsM

Regarding anti-feminists who also have additional points on their agenda other then MRA, my support goes to her MRA activities not to her as a person. But that’s what I stand up for.

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

I guess the thing that gets me the most is that anti-feminist women are the same women who will in one light say “no uterus, no opinion,” but in another will say “I’m all for men’s rights because I understand them!” They want to get involved with the men that they want to practically enslave themselves. I’m in agreement with them on the rights of men, but it seems like they have something else up their sleeve…like they want to keep us on their metaphorical leash.

It seems like they’re the opposite of a white knight in a way (not to mention, they rightfully make fun of white knights all the time). It’s like they still want men around for their resources and have little to offer in return. I ask a lot of these anti-feminist women, “what do you have to offer if we give our hard labor and resources?” What kind of answer to I get? Near-to-NOTHING.

Why can’t they answer anything like that? I’m not being confrontational about it or anything, I’m just curious about it. The women I ask are ones I know rather well at least. But the question is normally ignored. What do THEY have to offer us as we’re working our butts off?

Like I said in the original post, ANOTHER thing that annoys me the most (besides the previously mentioned in this response) is that we men have been bringing up our issues for some time…to the point that we don’t care to be part of a gynocentric society anymore. Yet, the only time “men’s rights” has even been brought to national media was when a superficially attractive WOMAN said something about it. Suddenly EVERYONE is talking about it, whether in a positive manner or not!

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