My Introduction

[RevMattParticipant 28]

First, I am not completely sure if I belong on a MGTOW forum for one reason: I don’t blame feminism for all of the decay of marriage and masculinity in general.  Women realized the institution was bogus about thirty years before men did but shrewdly worked to rewrite the rules in their gender’s favor.  We didn’t see that coming and lost the first few rounds.  No use whining about it.  Either live to fight another day or leave the field of battle altogether.

Marriage presupposes a pre-industrial social order where it is a contract between two families.  In the nineteenth century it was redefined to an industrial society with all of the Victorian trappings and romantic bulls~~~ — courtly love, romance, blah, blah, blah.  In a post-industrial context men and women question if it is even necessary.  Women use it to secure their economic futures.  Men?  We’ve been programmed by society to believe that marriage “is what a man does” though we no longer see how it benefits us as individuals or collectively.  In the days when everyone worked in an agrarian based economy marriage was necessary because, at minimum, it took two people to run a small, subsistence farm and the more children a family had the more productive that farm was.  But today a wife, three kids, a mortgage is a financial burden.  A man and a woman are probably better off supporting themselves.  In a post-industrial society the larger the family unit the less productive and more vulnerable it is economically.  This is just a simple fact.  I am not going to blame feminists for this.  My only real beef is their failure to admit that they want to have their wedding cake and eat it too.  In other words, keep the failing institution of marriage while radically rewriting the terms so men derive no benefit whatsoever from it.

As my handle indicates, I am an ordained clergy person in a major protestant denomination.  In the course of my ministry I have presided over close to fifty weddings.  However, I no longer serve congregations in part because I no longer believe in the institution of marriage.  I do not wish it upon my sons who are 18 and 20 year old young men.

I had a relatively amicable divorce.  In 2006 my wife decided she was no longer happy, that she no longer loved me and asked me to leave my place of residence.  I was willing to stay married for the sake of the kids but I didn’t exactly let the door hit me in the ass on the way out.  My oldest son lives with me full time and my youngest son will probably end up living with me.  The courts did not determine this.  They decided for themselves that I am the easier parent to live with.  Their mother has not had a relationship since 2006.  The fish does not need a bicycle.  This bicycle, however, is perfectly capable of cranking its own chain without a fish.

I am fifty years old.  I ride a motorcycle.  I drive a 2000 Eldorado with a V8 under the hood.  I play in two bands.  I am in the process of starting a record company.  I date when I want to, mostly women who are older than me and perfectly happy with their single lives.  Life is good.

[RoyDalParticipant]

Welcome aboard!

I don’t blame feminism for all of the decay of marriage and masculinity in general.

I agree. I believe feminism is a symptom of a much larger issue, not really the root cause. Feminism is like the thorn to the brambles overgrowing civilization’s fields.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Author]

Posts