My Introduction

[SubtilitasParticipant 101]

Dear community,

firstly, I would like to give a short profile of myself and then tell about the path very briefly, that has led me here. Also, English is not my mother tongue, so please excuse any mistakes or insecurities which might occur.

So, I am from Europe, currently in my early twenties, taking a break from my studies at university to earn some money for a while. I am (mostly) gay and for many years I have been suffering from depression. I feel I have to add this, because I think it plays a certain role in my way to discovering Men Going Their Own Way. If it should turn out that it doesn’t, it will still help you to understand my journey better, I think.

Now, how come I have ended up here?

A former friend of mine, a girl my age, has transformed within a few weeks to a feminist and adopted the ideology of today’s feminism without reflecting over it or knowing its history or ideas thouroughly. I had to witness her “transformation” at the front row. Suddenly, she began to pull people around her into discussions about what women are truly like, what their rights are, how strong they are, how weak men really are, and so forth. And although I agreed with her on some arguments, I could not get rid of the feeling there was something not quite right about the way of feminism’s thinking. At the point where her Facebook activity only consisted of promoting “gender neutral language”, which is a whole insanity of its own, and she unreasonably criticized my clothing style (it’s particularly a guy thing) in a pejorative way, I started to reduce contact until we had not any at all. Some time went by and I came across Gender Theory as well, which I found to be contradicting in itself, to say the least.

I have never had a real (male) buddy and have surrounded myself mostly with girls in my life, so one might assume I would make the perfect feminist warrior alongside all the girls who are happy I am one of the guys who would do some work for them. Yet funnily, I have always thought that there was something wrong about (today’s) feminism and everything associated with it. That is one important reason why I have changed my somewhat effeminate behavior and manner of speaking to people to become more authentic. Depression played and is still playing an important role for that matter as it drives forward the notion of “I don’t care at all”, to which there are positive sides as I have noticed.

However, I have to say, I am not entirely sure yet what MGTOW are about. So far, I consider it a collection of ideas without being ideological (which is immensely refreshing) who go against a zeitgeist shaped by a perverted form of a human rights movement that once had some reason. In the course of informing myself about feminism and its criticism I have finally found MGTOW through YouTube.

So, this was a very rough overview, and I hope I can educate myself deeper about MGTOW, get to know some of you as well as contribute to the forums. And please feel free to comment, ask questions or simply say hello.

Thank you

[John Woods 13Participant 2855]

Thanks for your intro Subtilitas. If it’s information you want, you are in the right place.

Subtilitas wrote:

I am (mostly) gay and for many years I have been suffering from depression.

I have to warn you that (as you may already know if you’ve read the forums before) men here don’t care much for PC language. You will see many gay jokes and many comments that some gays would find offensive. That might not play nice with your depression, so I suggest you prepare yourself for that.

The answer is NO. “I could but I won’t”. Memini murum!

[Anonymous 42]

Subtilitas wrote:

That is one important reason why I have changed my somewhat effeminate behavior and manner of speaking to people to become more authentic.

Finding “you” and nurturing “you’re character” is a sure path out of depression! MGTOW is mostly recognizing your person as a being that must be treated as the best of beings with sovereignty being a main pillar.

[Truthseeker82Participant 6406]

Welcome – we are open and speak our minds here. From what you write, that should fit well with you. Looking forward to your participation if you choose.

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

welcome sir.
i’m glad you found the path to freedom
enjoy the forums and the website

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[NerevarParticipant 8040]

Welcome, brother! I have to say, your English is far better than natives (Brits, Americans, Canadians, etc), it actually seems flawless to me 🙂

May I ask where you’re from? I’m Dutch myself and have a gay buddy from Belgium who also tends/tended to have a lot of female friends.

"One of the best things internet exposed is just how insane women are." - Freeman_K

[Anonymous 42]

thousands of feminists taking notes.

Those aren’t notes they’re taking, it’s lists they’re making! Keymaster is at the top of the list!

[SubtilitasParticipant 101]

John Woods 13 wrote:

I have to warn you that (as you may already know if you’ve read the forums before) men here don’t care much for PC language.

I don’t care either. Political correctness is an unintellectual concept to me.

Nerevar wrote:

Welcome, brother! I have to say, your English is far better than natives (Brits, Americans, Canadians, etc), it actually seems flawless to me ?

May I ask where you’re from? I’m Dutch myself and have a gay buddy from Belgium who also tends/tended to have a lot of female friends.

Thank you, but I’m afraid you are wrong – it isn’t flawless by far. You will find that out in the course of time 😉 I am from Austria, nice to meet you.

Turn on the no f~~~s given switch and depression melts away.

Argh, if it was that easy! If I could I guarantee you… I would grab my backpack and just walk away without a plan.

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