My Intro to you All (Long Read)

[JoeMaster575Participant 175]

Hey there fellow MGTOW’s,

I had been posting recently, so I felt that an introduction to who I am is needed, how I got here, and what motivated me to post here as an active participant.

I was born in ’94 in Chicago, IL and lived in a suburb for nearly all of my life. My father was an attorney at law and my mother was also an attorney. They met in Knox College, married, and moved to the house where I live now. They had three boys, and I am the youngest. My mother passed away from a stroke after battling cancer in late 2001, and my father committed suicide in mid-late 2014. My grandfather has been raising me and my brother for the last three years, with my oldest living in Milwaukee as a car salesman. My other brother is mildly autistic, so he has a bigger challenge of succeeding, but has greatly improved and has a good future ahead of him.

Growing up I was very introverted and rarely attended clubs. As a result, I was more interested in reading good books, studying history, including Western history, and playing video games. I love video games so much I bought my own PC dedicated for gaming and have been using it since November 2014. I did participate in soccer and basketball for a couple of years and even joined the local Boy Scouts for a year, but later dropped out of all of them. I was a B average student in Jr High, High School and College. I recently graduated from College in Chicago last May with a SB in Cinema Arts, specifically Film Production but also good at Film editing. Originally I wanted to enter Hollywood as a filmmaker, but now I want to stay away as far as possible in the event it gets carpet bombed by disgruntled soldiers.

I was introduced to internet culture via memes and meme culture in 2009, so I followed them and now I am a pseudo-expert on memeology and \memes. My first interaction with internet activism was after my grandmother passed away in 2012 and was devastated by her death. I was a Roman Catholic but left after her death. My family was Roman Catholic, but my father was understanding and tolerant of my beliefs. But my biggest grudge against him was his disapproval of me playing violent video games, which made me resentful. After his death, I felt depressed about his passing and needed help from my grandfather and uncle. Since then, I have improved, graduated, and working full time at a temporary job.

Since 2012, I have gone through notable ‘phases’ that I will detail here. From 2012 onward, I am a member of the ‘skeptic’ community, but I think that a better term would be the anti-PC community. This phase parallels with the rest of the phases mentioned as I studied the world around me and how I got here. I discovered MGTOW in late 2014-early 2015 after I realized that something was not right in the world. I didn’t make an account until around 2016 and wasn’t register for forums until this summer, so I have been a member for 2 years but not active until recently. I felt that I had something to contribute to you all, so I paid for the membership and have enjoyed it since.

After my grandmother’s passing, I became a ‘militant Atheist’ and would attack Christianity and other religions, but mostly Christianity. It died down after late 2013-early 2014 and became focused on the Anti-Feminist movement on Youtube. After my father’s death I began my focus on GamerGate. I had heard about the movement through Cracked in August, and it was not a positive view. In November 2014, my GamerGate phase began when I saw Thunderf00t’s video on GamerGate, and joined the movement as an observer. I later discovered Sargon of Akkad around the same time when he had 50K+ subs and followed him since. I saw how the media would lie through their teeth about gamers, men and GamerGate all through 2015, influencing celebs to join the Antis despite how terrible the Antis were, especially Nicholas ‘Sarah’ Nyberg, a self-admitted pedophile. Despite this, the Antis were receiving popular support from the mainstream, but I know for a fact the GamerGate Movement has exposed the corruption to the world and how a single whore can leave behind such a devastating legacy behind in the gaming industry.

During that time was when Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump would announce their candidacies for president. As I was still an ardent liberal, I naturally laughed at the notion of Trump being president when I heard it and felt that Hillary would be a better choice. But after discovering Hillary’s anti-male views and her corrupt policies, I was an undecided voter for the most part. I looked across the ocean at Europe and of the Migrant Crisis happening there while I was waiting on a better candidate. I had heard about the refugee crisis in 2014 and how they were let into Europe from 2015 onward. I was certain that allowing them in wasn’t necessarily a good idea, as detailed by Black Pigeon Speaks hit video “Why Women Destroy Civilization”, then the 2015 New Year’s Eve mass sexual assault happened. Of course the Mainstream Media ignored it, and that’s then I fully realized the horrible consequences of the Migrant Invasion, how the European Elite betrayed their fellow citizens and how the Feminists ignored it as a form of Political Correctness. I was disturbed at how such an event could be ignored, but accepted the fact that the Media was corrupt. I was still an undecided voter as all of this was happening until I saw Paul Joseph Watson disassemble the F~~~H8 video on Trump and throw it back in their faces. I was a Trump Supporter then, and from May 2016 I was an observer on the campaigns.

All the while I saw the same exact patterns the MSM were using in the 2016 election that the gaming press used during GamerGate. Hillary’s dark past was constantly covered up while Trump was constantly attacked. In a sane society Hillary would have been grilled worse than Trump would have ever been. When the DNC hacks were exposed to the whole world, I was shocked at the massive amount of corruption involved and how Hillary stabbed Sanders in the back, yet the media would play it down like it was a nothing burger, and this was before the Russians were blamed. The Hillary supporters still supported her, despite the blatant corruption and crimes she had committed. I felt that Trump would lose the election in November, and going to a “liberal” college, I knew exactly how toxic the SJW culture was to our country. I was genuinely afraid that we would go to war with Russia and that I would be drafted in the military before the year was over. Naturally, I was excited when Trump surprisingly won.

Afterwards, I was hopeful that Trump would have fixed most everything, and am still hopeful. Under Hillary, I know for a fact we would have been at War with Russia and Syria, the country flooded with Islamic Jihadists, and men being attacked at every turn. We would be in far worse shape than we are now, despite what out of touch celebrities would implore, and I would most likely be in Syria being forced to execute children, getting shot at in the mud in the Russian Occupied Eastern Bloc, fighting in the streets of Beijing or guarding POW’s in ‘liberated’ North Korea. Most likely I would be six feet under or in a POW camp by now. Thank f~~~ we won’t have to fight for Globalism… not yet, at least.

Of course, this whole bulls~~~ “Resistance” “movement” has shown to the whole country how deplorable the Antifa Communists are, yet they still get the support of the leftists, the media and of celebrities. From December 2016 to March 2017 I was supportive of the idea of Civic Nationalism, but was drawn towards the ideas of the Alt Right. I was aware of what the Alt Right was during the election, but hadn’t fully accepted their ideas. But as I studied more and more about the Alt-Right, I became Red Pilled even further, and from March 2017 onward I follow the Alt-Right very closely. I don’t fully support it due to the severity of their degree of zealotry and their ideals of ethnic cleansing being a necessity, but I see how race relations are s~~~ between Whites and Non-Whites, how Islamists attack Whites openly and get away with it and how Whites are attacked daily for protesting their extinction by Feminists, the elite, and (((You Know Who))). Mainstream Media, “pop culture” and Mainstream Propaganda is cancer, especially Hollywood movies and cinema, and the only refuge is video games and internet culture, where artistic expression is still somewhat free from PC interference… at the moment.

Now, I am an borderline Identitarian, something I never thought I would ever become. I thought having labels to describe yourself was something SJWs’ and Feminists would stick towards, but now I have these identities I stick to. I realize that this isn’t Stormfront, I won’t force my ideas on you MGTOW and I doubt that the Alt-Right might take off here, as one of the key elements of the Alt Right is to marry White women and to have as many White children as possible in order to confront the Islamic Invasion. I fully believe that there is a conspiracy against Western Civilization being conducted by the banks, corporations, elite, and governments to cull the White Races of Europe, North America, Australia and South Africa in order to divide them and render them unable to fight against the forces of Globalism, basically Communism 2.0. I no longer feel that the left is appropriate for me and am leaning towards the right, despite my Atheistic beliefs and support of secularism. However, I would rather support a Christian movement, if I had to, considering that my chances of being murdered by Christians are much lower than by Moslems.

That’s my story, and right now this is my Alt Right phase. I don’t know how long it’ll last, but it might change due to different beliefs or hearing better arguments. Other than that, I am what I am. I’ve seen how this culture war is going and I don’t know what the future contains, but whatever happens, at least I’ll have you guys to share the experience with. If there is more to share, feel free to ask and I will try to accommodate as best I can.

Thank you for listening and for your time.

They tried to fuck with our video games, and look what happened(#Gamergate), and they still havent learned their lessons(Trump 2016-2024)

[Anonymous 12]

Welcome, and thank you for your efforts of describing yourself, your interests , even listed over time.

Some people apologize for a “Long read” – i see it as an effort someone is willing to make.
I follow you shining a light on various events, like a Searchlight or a Torch, and especially the gradual shift from Left to right.

You being from the US, i would say the local MFGTOW.com Population is more Red than blue, even though Politics only get you “so far” in your life,
At some Point it does not matter what Politician is on the Stage, what they say, do, enact.
From a certain point on, they become irrelevant, they do not help in daily lives, and the influence of their presidency becomes totally irrelevant.
Though i might get bashed on the head for saying it, Politicians, ESPECIALLY when a Businessman ((AHEMMMM)) takes the Position, do what all of us do: follow the money.

But the Boy does good so far, and i rather have Him in office compared to HER.
Nopt because of Politics, but dies to their Sexual preferences.
Although i mostly GMOW, i prefer to not have a Rabid feminist as a POTUS.
Just like i would love to see Merkel get stoned by some Syrian Mob because she said something “wrong”.

At some point in your life, Politics and Political engagement might become relevant.
Your Personal interactions with Women, Societies´Expectations and the Justice system might prevent it.

The same goes for Religion IMO – Christianity is in freefall, although the core values of being a decent human being, and not a complete dickhead still resonate with many.
I see many parallels between Politics and Religion, MSM… its all manipulation and whom to believe is impossible to tell.
Men going their own way often ditch religion, ditch Newspapers, sometimes even “certain types” of education as an important Part of their life.

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To me personally, being financially independent and stable, having command over my Home&Time matters much.
When it comes to financial aid from the state, i pay back (or forth) every month, and i am okay with it – i might need a helping hand at some point – life is still a long winding road to go.

How do you manage these things?
No Mother, no father, supported by your grandparents, how do you get by?
Why did your father… end his life?

Tell us a bit more about your daily life, how do the 3 Brothers and the Grandparents live.
Being that Women, and experience with them is one of the Big reasons Men come here to share and discuss, ragequit their old life…
But you seem to not have been exposed to them so far?

One last thing, maybe this is the Red thread that goes through your interests…
Could it be that you are in search of “the truth out there”…?

You have come to as place where men say “f~~~ it, this life is s~~~ – i will ditch the dangerous stuff, the annoying s~~~ and focused on my own definition of a good life, no matter what they say”

The absolute truth of everything is not to be found here.
only fragments – and often enough they are ugly.

edit:
‘Regarding my inquiring about your daily life, father, and your experience with women:
Fell free to give me the middle finger.
You own that part of your history, feel free to not share, or share at a later date if you feel it is not appropriate.

[Anonymous 5]

Welcome and thanks for the intro, it was a fascinating read. I’m sorry that you lost both your parents but you’re fortunate that you have a loving grandfather and brothers to share your life.

Many of us followed Gamergate to some degree, and Black Pigeon and Sargon of Akadd, and most of the politics you’ve talked about. It can all get a bit overwhelming, especially psycho feminist clips.
I took a long break from the internet last year for about 6 months or so and it did me the world of good. It’s too easy to get too involved and worked up by things that only marginally affect us in the real world.

I had to look up Identitarianism. I agree it seems to be what we all want, that is, a return to some type of stable simplicity. But I don’t think anything was ever simple, only in our memories.

Thanks again for the great read.

[AttonParticipant]

considering that my chances of being murdered by Christians are much lower than by Moslems.

Thou shall not kill prohibits murder to those who believe. Heretics and hypocrites are those who are best avoided.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[Anonymous 42]

It’s not good to be a militant atheist or anything against religion, there’s far too much hating there for one man to do by himself, you’ll need lots of help, then you become something like Nazi SS, or burning people alive in cages.

Your fight is with the forces that would trade or confiscate your sovereignty to promote their own beliefs, in other words, feminism, gynocentrism, and their communist beliefs.

Religion has become perverted and detracted from the writings they once preached, they work for the state handing out marriage licenses for the almighty STATE!

They’ve become complacent and compliant as left hand to the state holding the fork while the state cuts the meat!

We’re the meat.

[JoeMaster575Participant 175]

Yeah, I was, but when GamerGate rolled around, I moved on from the militant phase and focused on Feminism. After the Cologne mass sexual assaults I realized that Islam was a bigger threat than Christianity was, and focused on the blatant hypocritical double standards being held on the left.

I find that I don’t criticize Christianity anymore as I have already given it all the criticism I can think of. At this point, my militant phase is over. I used to think that religion was a person’s moral compass, but now I believe that one’s political leanings and ideologies are that compass.

I am still an atheist, but I don’t run around bashing religions like I used to anymore. I find that religion is something that can hold nations together, but would prefer secular governments. However, I am not against religious governments if there are historical precedents or if the people of a country want such a government.

They tried to fuck with our video games, and look what happened(#Gamergate), and they still havent learned their lessons(Trump 2016-2024)

[Anonymous 3]

Developing your own definition of a good life is a good way to describe MGTOW.
where I live 2 young men lost their jobs for espousing Alt-Right views openly.
I try to stay out of all ideological ” warfare”.
I live quietly & subtly going my own way.
You can fit yourself into the equation of MGTOW anyway you want. That’s the beauty of it.
Sorry about the losses you have experienced. Life is difficult, but that doesn’t mean it can’t b lived in a healthy way.
Thank you for post. It was a good read. Keep posting.

[JoeMaster575Participant 175]

How do you manage these things?
No Mother, no father, supported by your grandparents, how do you get by?
Why did your father… end his life?

Tell us a bit more about your daily life, how do the 3 Brothers and the Grandparents live.
Being that Women, and experience with them is one of the Big reasons Men come here to share and discuss, ragequit their old life…
But you seem to not have been exposed to them so far?

One last thing, maybe this is the Red thread that goes through your interests…
Could it be that you are in search of “the truth out there”…?

Thanks for the response g-mow.

My father supported us until he died, but my grandfather lived in Chicago, about a 1 hour drive from where I live. He moved in with us and, along with my uncle, helped raise us to now. It’s been a challenge for him to go back to having raise 2 young men. My father was able to set up several bank accounts that would support us in the event of a family death.

We don’t know specifically why my father killed himself as we never sound a suicide note, but he was suffering from depression. My uncle, his brother, would constantly ask him if he was suicidal, and he would say no. But when I looked through my father’s search history after the fact, he was suicidal to the point he was researching a method of suicide, such as purchasing a firearm and registering a license. Its strangely ironic, considering that he was strongly opposed to me playing FPS’.

My three brothers lived in the same house, and it was rather calm, no major fighting or any conflicts of that nature. After finishing college, my oldest brother moved to Milwaukee to work as a car salesman and has been doing very well for himself. My next oldest brother is mildly autistic, but is high functioning.

With women, I tried hooking up with some girls in jr. high, but I gave up after failing to succeed and focused on schoolwork and video games in high school. Around that same time I starting looking up fetishes online and would jerk off whenever I wanted. Some of the things I jerk off to would classify me as a degenerate in this community, but I keep to myself and would never expose anyone to it. My grandfather has mentioned that almost all of the women I have been exposed to have been positive influences, and I don’t disagree with him, but he doesn’t believe in the Manosphere ideas. I came here not out of getting f~~~ed over by some whore, but most likely out of my father’s death. I stayed because these ideas were new, the evidence was there and the current political climate that is raging in the West.

In the search for the truth, yes, I am searching for it. Looking back on my life the last three years, I think that I am somewhat impressionable considering how I didn’t believe in the Alt Right’s attitude towards Jews until recently. A year ago I wouldn’t have even entertained fascist ideology, but after seeing how our democracy is completely corrupt and their actions that endanger the native citizens in the favor of foreigners has me considering national socialism as a better alternative to democracy. So far, I’m still looking for the truth in the world and keep stumbling across new information. For example, I believed for the longest time that OJ Simpson was innocent until I saw the ESPN documentary on him and realized that he was guilty.

Anyway, that’s about all. Thank you for your time.

They tried to fuck with our video games, and look what happened(#Gamergate), and they still havent learned their lessons(Trump 2016-2024)

[wyrParticipant 591]

Welcome brother!

Self-improvement is my religion. Sovereignty is my god.

[Anonymous 12]

Looking around here, and looking in the mirror…
I doubt i would call anyone a degenerate.
I doubt that many men present here would frown upon your doings, as quite a few of us have outcast ourselves from the norms, have removed ourselves from the patterns of “normal” and “as expected”…
Jerking off is one of many mechanisms, one of many ways to keep from going nuts.

Regarding Nationalism…
There too, you are only a tool.
a Little lost human. One little soldier, used and abused as cannonfodder.
Re-read your own writing:

I think that I am somewhat impressionable considering how I didn’t believe in the Alt Right’s attitude towards Jews until recently.

Now, if i take a step back and re-read your swing from left to right as described in your first Post, in addition to you saying you might be on the search for truth, I believe you are in danger of being used and manipulated by the various groups you have come in contact with.

Before, it was the lefties, now it is the righties, or so it appears to me.
Both sides pull on different ends of the same Rope, but where it leads, is out of their control.
Money? Nukes? What rules the world?
Certainly not the ones that walk through cities and set Police cars ablaze – no matter what they yell.

And you – how do YOU want to live your life?
Is that not one of the Basic questions worth asking at this stage?
Joining one faction or the other, is that the way to go, or would you rather sit on the fence, distant from most issues except the ones that concern you directly?

Observe the SJW´s do illogical things and invent a dozen genders per day, the feminists shriek for more power and more money, the nationalists harden the borders and clean their Guns?

Do you want to be scared and get sucked into one of the many s~~~ vortexes that ruin lives “left” “right” and “center”…
or are you on your path to wisdom and saying:

“f~~~ it all, i observe the fools around me get trapped in so much crap…i desire to live for myself, and defend the best interests of ME, and the very select few people around me”

Because Nobody has your best interests at heart. Not the SJW´s. Not the Alt-right. No Politician. No Sympathy group.
Associating with a faction, carrying a label, identifying as “term XYZ”… does not mean Jack.
It´s all promises, lies, smoke and Mirrors.
Except what you do. Those things are real, are the ground you stand on.
Literally Nobody gives a s~~~ about you, no matter which faction you associate with.

Besides Yourself and maybe Gramps & Your Brothers.

You are a very intriguing and also a bit confusing Brother.
You are 23 now, and i guess done with the official part of “Education”? what is the next step? Where does the Road go?

Edit:
Welcome once more.
Thank you for being here.

[JoeMaster575Participant 175]

Huh, haven’t really thought about that.

Thinking back, I wouldn’t get involved directly, just sitting back and observing the battles being fought. I don’t get involved and would rarely think about getting involved. I care for my family and they care for me, and that’s all I could ask for.

I try to improve myself intellectually by reading books and observing the world, and these paths have let me to where I am now. I currently work as a server at a fast food restaurant and am still unsure as to what I want to do in life. I recently received my degree from college, and that’s the end of my education. Now, I’ll look for better employment opportunities when the time is right.

Its a rather interesting perspective you gave me. Thanks for your insight g-mow.

They tried to fuck with our video games, and look what happened(#Gamergate), and they still havent learned their lessons(Trump 2016-2024)

[Anonymous 1]

Welcome, I think you will find some of the truth that you are looking for on these forums. You have gone on a wild ride from left to right and that can be disorienting. Don’t get overwhelmed by the sheer number of different groups and gurus that are out there claiming to have the truth. Take it slow and have patience. The truth will come over time, as long as you keep searching.

[Anonymous 12]

Take your time, and keep thinking the way you already do.
Truth, your truth, will come to you as the Years and decades pass, and it will be custom made just for you, as unique as the path you have taken.
It saddens me to read your father… decided to leave.
Lump-in-throat kind of moment.

Not having a father around is confusing and can make the world a scary place.
I hope he found Peace… in the next world.

I did not have a father at all (raised by well-meaning women) , and at around your age in 2002/2003 when i was done with school i was lucky enough to discover the Internet, and an international set of Men who, through our common passion for “Planes with guns” took me under their wing, talked to me like i was an adult, and asked me a couple big questions.

Settle in and read a lot.
Think for yourself even more.
You are on your way, and you only got one shot.

[Anonymous 14]

Hey Joe, great intro. Sorry to hear about the loss of your parents.

I am about as far Right as it gets on this site, Libertarian Atheist. Not Alt-Right in the Stormfront sense on any level, but I do understand some of the sentiment and agree with your assessment of what is going on. Divide and conquer, all by mandate, all except Israel of course… Never ending wars they want, yet they take in how many refugees? Zero. E.U. is being f~~~ed, Kalergi style, just as planned long ago.

[JoeMaster575Participant 175]

Thanks Joe.

I used to disagree with your views on Israel, but later on learned, after the election, on how the ADL and the SPLC work for foreign intentions and on how we have been manipulated to having to defend Israel. I believe that its a combination of U.S. and Israeli resources that led to the trick, and not one single group wholly responsible for strategic reasons.

I myself am not an anti-Semite, and I believe that Jews do deserve a homeland and to have self determination, like every other group of people on Earth. However, my problem is their failure to simply end the conflict between themselves and Palestine and the constant warfare between Israel and their neighbors. This whole conflict has out of hand for far too long and needs to be halted, even if a drastic change, such as a two-state solution, is the only option we have.

On the whole, I know that the Jews who support the Multiracial agenda are, for the most part, elites who live among White neighbors while living away from the Diversity they claim to love. There are some Jew who oppose Multiracialsim, like Tommy Robinson, Ben Shapiro, and Milo Yiannopoulos, and I give them credit for that.

I don’t usually discuss these things unless they are relevant or provide some form of context and try to keep the things I discuss MGTOW related, be it politics, entertainment, media, society, etc.

They tried to fuck with our video games, and look what happened(#Gamergate), and they still havent learned their lessons(Trump 2016-2024)

[JoeMaster575Participant 175]

Thanks g-mow, I’ll try to stay up to date on the site.

They tried to fuck with our video games, and look what happened(#Gamergate), and they still havent learned their lessons(Trump 2016-2024)

[Anonymous 3]

Anonymous wrote:

Both sides pull on different ends of the same Rope, but where it leads, is out of their control.
Money? Nukes? What rules the world?

The so-called good guys & the so-called bad guys both use the same techniques,methods & weapons to enslave you. my approach is avoidance ( for the most part ), but when involvement is necessary I do my best to accurately asses the situation then act IN MY OWN BEST INTERESTS. thank you for intro & welcome

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