My Intro. Advice needed. Manipulative wife.

[DiscerningGentlemanParticipant 21]

Hey brothers, it’s a bit late this introduction

My MGTOW story in a nutshell.

Mid-twenties married man with newborn baby. Girlfriend got pregnant by accident and decided to keep the baby. Wife turned into an absolute monster once we were married, literally 2 weeks after the marriage she threatened she’d take the baby back home and I’d never see her again. Been married 4 months now. I have cheated twice, simply because the opportunity has been there and home life is that abysmal- but make no excuses.

Has been a nightmare all through the pregnancy. I said I wanted a seperation after it became truly unbearable. She called the Police after an argument and I was arrested for Assault of my 4 DAY OLD BABY GIRL. Completely false.

She has since dropped the charges of the Assault and claims of previous domestic abuse and expects to move back in with me.

She more or less threatened me over the phone saying “Why would I drop the charges if we weren’t getting back together? I could ruin your life if I wanted to… But why would I if we’re together?”

If she was to press charges of the assault and previous domestic violence, I would no longer be able to work with children- before my current job I worked as a primary school teacher and kids kickboxing instructor- as I would be considered a danger to their safety.

I need advice on how to leave this marriage, while protecting me, myself legally and my rights as a father.

I made it clear to social services I do not want her, but they have taken it that I do not want her or the child. I am afraid I won’t get to be involved in bringing up my baby girl.

Advice would be appreciated thank you.

[Back in BlackParticipant 1732]

Get a lawyer asap.

"Women are directly adapted to act as the nurses and educators of our early childhood, for the simple reason that they themselves are childish, foolish, and short-sighted—in a word, are big children all their lives, something intermediate between the child and the man, who is a man in the strict sense of the word. Consider how a young girl will toy day after day with a child, dance with it and sing to it; and then consider what a man, with the very best intentions in the world, could do in her place.” Quote from Arthur Shopenhauer, 17th century philosopher

[BoarParticipant]

Get a good lawyer used to working with the husband. Lawyers are merely hostage negotiators trying to free the truth; the rest of process is a farce designed to damn the man to eternal hell.

Above all, document everything. Including the conversations you have had with your wife. She is already trying to extort you to her twisted will.

Good luck and if you ever need someone to listen to you, we are here!

Untamed wrote: Quit complaining and Go Your Own Way in whatever manner suits you best.

[Chaff/FlareParticipant 3235]

Lawyer now. Sell car if have to. Usually, you can get free consultation. Get all communication on recording or email, no exceptions. Do not get into arguments. Sorry, on phone, the guys will be able to type more

When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.

[EinherjarParticipant 608]

Welcome to the forums mate, and thanks for sharing your story. I do not envy the situation you currently find yourself in, but there is always a way. Great advice have already been given by your fellow MGTOWs, yet I would be so bold as to propose a different way of approach.

My proposition is this: Instead of going head on with the divorce, wait for a while. Present your wife with a white lie, telling her that you take her back. This will be painful to do I understand, but there is reason to the merit. After taking her back, you get clever. Now you can prepare for the divorce at your own leisure. For every payment you get from work, store away as much of it as you can in cash at a hidden place. Then buy yourself an apartment (in secrecy), no matter the size of it, and gradually move your personal belongings into it. Work as little overtime as possible so that your payments remain low (has an effect on alimony). When you have done all of these things, it is time to proceed with your divorce, but this time you are prepared!

You might find that the outcome of this prepared situation has a much better outcome than it would be as of now. All you need to do for this to work is time and a focused mind. In the end, you will have the final laught.

Cheers, and the best of luck to you!

The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal - Aristotle (384 - 322 BC)

[HitmanParticipant]

Welcome.
I feel your pain.
Listen to einhar..forgive my spelling.
Play it cool,
She already shown her true self. .evil.
Pretend well and within a month make your exit..first lawyer up.
Make sure those charges are dropped and run !!!

[DiscerningGentlemanParticipant 21]

My plan was to do the same Einherjar. I know if I battled her now I would lose. She’d pin everything on me and the Police would be too happy to help her. They’ve actually been pressuring her to press other charges, but she is dropping them all as we are getting back together…

My plan was:

-Video/audio document as much of her outbursts and tantrums as possible, keeping records of texts and spoken word. Store anything that proves her true character.

-Saving up money, setting a certain amount aside each week/month, which can be used be used in an emergency, to move out, or to pay for legal costs etc.

-Take her back, act the nice guy and be involved with my child as much as possible. I may even go as as far as joining a Church, get baptised, do community work and present a new saintly image to everyone. If any future claims are then made, I can say I am a reformed character.

Like a fool I made the mistake of texting my friends telling them how much I hated her guts because of this whole ordeal, which the Police saw, and no doubt would try to use as evidence against my character if I fought her now.

Best to bide my time, so I can fight this battle prepared.

I regret so much getting involved with this woman, I regret getting married even more. She’s tried her best to ruin my life and reputation when I said I wanted to leave her.

She’s told everyone that I’ve stopped her seeing her friends and all sorts of other nonsense… And accused me of drug/steroid use! Grasping at any straw to ruin me. It is her that is actually the reformed drug addict. I should have known!

Past week has been a nightmare, been unable to sleep most nights and hardly been eating! But keeping positive… Just gotta keep focus and faith that there can be happiness at the end of this!

Anyway I’ll quit rambling. Thanks gents.

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

Greetings DG,

DiscerningGentleman wrote:

Girlfriend got pregnant by accident and decided to keep the baby.

Hey, I wrote that in my Introduction!!!

DiscerningGentleman wrote:

Advice would be appreciated

If you can give a general description of where you live like State/ Country in your reply, MGTOWs will be able to give you more legal suggestions.

I suggest that you read more of the Forum posts and digest everything in the Archives.
It is essential that you embrace the wisdom and knowledge of MGTOW.

Even after I got the divorce, I did not learn the most important MGTOW lessons and I continued to f~~~ up for decades. My situation was bad, but it wasn’t bad enough for me to fully break free of Blue Pill indoctrination. During those decades of Blue Pill Hell I could not fully understand the following truths:

Woman are dangerous;
Women destroy lives;
Woman are evil.

Note: Men with daughters have a hard time with these truths and they are manipulated by their little darlings throughout their whole lives.

Your situation is a disaster and you are truly screwed, but it could wake you up enough to avoid the years that I wasted.

DiscerningGentleman wrote:

I have cheated twice, simply because the opportunity has been there and home life is that abysmal- but make no excuses.

Last year another MGTOW called “Tower” wrote that dealing with woman is like playing with a bag full of hand grenades trying to find the ones that won’t blow up.

Tower is able to put into words something that I found out the hard way which is that woman are really very dangerous. In our Gynocentric society, you are risking your freedom and a good life whenever you f~~~ around with them. The poster below is from an older culture that understood “Woman’s Nature.”

DiscerningGentleman wrote:

If she was to press charges of the assault and previous domestic violence, I would no longer be able to work with children- before my current job I worked as a primary school teacher

Your career choice puts you into the heart of Enemy territory.

Now, I am in an Academic environment and it is really an obscene environment. I was much safer doing construction on a scaffold. Working inside gynocentric controlled institutions for an individual man these days is similar to a bear being taken down by a bunch of hyenas.

Your job is not a good environment for any Heterosexual man, especially someone in his twenties.

Your desperate situation is a wakeup call and can actually be a good opportunity for you to seriously consider a better life and future for yourself.

Here are some YouTube talks by Mike Rowe that brings up the truth about jobs and real success. He suggests great opportunities for men in today’s economy.
These videos will also help you to fight the foolish programming that was forced upon your generation:

DiscerningGentleman wrote:

She called the Police after an argument and I was arrested for Assault of my 4 DAY OLD BABY GIRL. Completely false.

Here is my version of what just happened to you:

The “Domestic Abuse” machine as an apparatus for men’s enslavement

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[Chaff/FlareParticipant 3235]

Yea bro. Take or leave, but listen to the Lord. From what I can tell I’m in the minority being a Christian, but He saved me.

Don’t ever forget that your baby girl is counting on you, from what I can tell, you are all she has and there is a good chance you will end up with her. Do not let your wife find your recording devices. Dude, you are going to war. Tell your game plan to your lawyer, and f~~~ing listen to him. DO NOT DRINK, no pot no dates. Spend as much time with your baby as you can, she will probably let you since then she can think of herself. Never never even raise your voice

When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.

[RoyDalParticipant]

Welcome!

Like everyone else says, get a lawyer. This firm advertises heavily in my area: http://www.cordellcordellstlouis.com/

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Truthseeker82Participant 6406]

Definetely retain counsel now. Even if you don’t immediately proceed with the divorce, having a lawyer on retainer will enable you to develop a plan.
You MUST get out soon. I know it’s hard, but she’s already called the authorities on you once – and now hangs that over your head as a way to control you. Sorry to say this but she sounds like a complete bitch. Your only
concern now should be yourself and your child. Although the laws are stacked against the father in most western countries-there are some minor changes like joint custody making it easier. Make sure you separate your finances as much as possible too. I wish you well and I’m here if you need advice or just to listen.

[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant 6635]

DiscerningGentleman wrote:

Girlfriend got pregnant by accident and decided to keep the baby

No such thing as an accidental pregnancy with over 15 forms of birth control for woman. She wanted to get pregnant and now you must find a lawyer to get her claws off your b~~~~!

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

[GnosticParticipant 2491]

She drop the charges because you cannot earn money for her if you are in jail. I don’t believe it is mercy on her part.

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

You need to record all conversations. Clearly she likes to be verbal about her intentions and this a huge advantage for you. Get her going and let her ramble.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[BalthazarParticipant 722]

i would say taking her back (temporarily) is to your advantage. If she had already left, brought you up on charges and then had them dropped, and decides to move back in, it totally deflates any of her accusations.

a big part of convincing the court as a father that you should have custody is showing that you’re capable of doing things as a primary caretaker. encourage the wife to go out and leave the baby home with you. take the baby to visit with friends that can be witness to it afterwards. take pictures of the things you do for and with the baby along with keeping a journal documenting how much care you are responsible for: bath time, feeding, changing diapers, dressing, putting down for bed etc.

if you can prove that you put a substantial amount of effort into care as well as prove that the wife leaves the child alone with you for extended periods of time, her bringing up the previous charges against you will be completely invalid.

This body holding me is a reminder of my own mortality. Embrace this moment. Remember, we are eternal and all this pain is an illusion.

[DiscerningGentlemanParticipant 21]

Thanks gentleman for the responses.

MGTOWmonkey- I actually remember now before she got pregnant, she talked quite often about children and asked me on several occasions when I could see myself having them. I said not for another 5 years at the very least. Looking back I was clearly used to make her a baby when she wanted it. I only have myself to blame I guess!

Balthazar- we actually talked about me being a primary caretaker before when we were civil to each other. After her maternity leave she is due back to work where I could fulfill this role and build my case.

TheManipulatedMan- Thanks for the great response. When I worked in education I was aware how obscene it was. I felt like a lone c~~~ in a sick twisted hen house. I am certainly going to learn from this.

Once again thanks for the responses. Knowing I am not alone in this is making it much easier to deal with.

[Russky2Participant 3086]

I think in this case it will be EXTREMELY IMPORTANT to record ALL of your conversations, so that you can present it in court against her. She said that she can ruin your life, but wants to be together? Ask the judge why she wants to be together, yet push the domestic violence S~~~. F~~~ing bitch man I feel your pain.

MGTOW AKBAR

[AttonParticipant]

You put yourself in a pretty s~~~ty situation.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[BryantParticipant 229]

you got this man keep your head up
keep at it, may be bad now but things get better!

"He who lives with honor dies with honor."

[sonofthedestroyerParticipant 318]

My god! When i read horror stories like this it strengthens my resolve not to get married.

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