My Grandfather was a MGTOW

[ConfuciusParticipant 183]

A common argument made by women against men not getting married is to instill fear of loneliness in old age.

– “You will regret this when you are old and alone. You will die sad and alone.”

This made me think of my grandfather who passed away a few years ago, at age 87. Come to think about it, I think he actually went MGTOW when he divorced my grandmother in his 60’s.

I will recap it briefly.
– When I was still very young, (5-6 yrs) my grandparents divorced. My grandfather had held a rather well paying job and was good off and collected a very good pension when he retired. Despite paying alamony to my grandmother, he could afford a very nice apartment in the city center, and he had a small cottage on the coast where he stayed during the summers.

As a kid, me and my brother would always stay a few weeks with him in his summer house, taking early morning fishing trips with his buddies etc. What was strange to me at that time, was that there would always be different women with him every summer. While they lived with him during the summers in his cottage, he kept his city apartment to himself. Even more surprising to me was that as I grew older, I learned that these women were usually 15-20 yrs younger than him. I always, found it fascinating how this old man could attract women so much younger. Even at 85, sitting one-legged in a wheelchair, he hung out with 65yr old who took care of him. Asking my parents about this once, I learned about gold-diggers trying to get their hands on some of his money. When he finally passed, it turned out that he had left nothing to last woman he was with. (He actually didn’t leave much at all to anyone, mostly debts, but this he never let anyone know). My parents, who handled the leftovers of his assets when he passed, told me his last woman was furious she didn’t get anything, and had tried very hard to plunder his little remaining assets during the last years. However, I suspect he had this under control all the time (he had some sort of law-degree and had worked in bank) and was in fact well aware of what the women wanted.

Today, I wish he was alive, so that I could have a discussion with him on women and MGTOW. I think he would approve and be able to give valuable insights and advice.

With this in mind, I would love to hear some old MGTOW (80+) share their experiences and advice for those of us embarking on this road. Who is the oldest in this forum?

"Life is really simple, but men insist on making it complicated."

[FreedomParticipant 965]

Great story Confucius.

Grandfathers are a great source of wisdom. Mine died too soon and I would have loved discussions with him as an adult.

She cheated on me ..... my fault. I showed an interest in another woman......my fault.

[bladeParticipant]

Old jack i know is 92 and never married . He was still doing his bee keeping and strong as an ox up until a couple of months ago when he fell and broke his hip . He has an infection now and it aint looking good . But he has lived a full life . Top shelf bloke

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[ConfuciusParticipant 183]

While he didn’t have any money in the bank when he passed, he did however have quite an art-collection. He used to hang out with and provide housing for a collective of young artists in his youth. In return he got paintings from them. Some of them later became very famous.

When he died, his last gold-digger claimed he had promised her to get all the artwork, and that this would be written on the backside of the paintings. When we turned the paintings around, we found:

1. Her name written on them.
2. Her name then crossed out, and names of other relatives to him written there instead.

Needless to say, this did not make her happy.

"Life is really simple, but men insist on making it complicated."

[Anonymous 42]

Confucius wrote:

A common argument made by women against men not getting married is to instill fear of loneliness in old age.

Old, alone, secure, no life’s history of utter destruction and starting over and over?

Spending my life perusing my flights of fancy on two skis, learning to fly, learning industrial as well as martial arts, living at home with myself and doing anything I want with the place including my own garage full of specialized equipment for customizing just about anything?

No Gents, the other path is the one full of heartbreak, emptiness, and foes!
Work like a slave learning nothing at all but how to keep her coffers full?
Work all week and by the weekend she has your chore list full from Friday Night to early Monday Morning for another week on her treadmill, the one she refuses to let you quit for something you intuitively know is better in the long run?

I would have been plundered and ruined like so many men slaughtered in the aftermath of the sexual revolution, feminism, gynocentrism, hypergamy, divorce rape, common law complicit rape, paternity fraud, including gender and race discrimination by the initiation and execution of Affirmative Action against WHITE MEN.
My life would have been an inverted flaming wreck!
And there I am on that timeline with my hand out begging the women that have plundered men and society for a merciful handout to the homeless and starving only to have her throw her hair back, roll up the window, and drive away to her government sanctioned lifestyle.

MGTOW’s coming for you sweetie, your vicious days are numbered, you were granted full partnership and then went hostile takeover. We’ve seen what happens when women are granted rights without responsibility or accountability.

I LIVE ALONE AND ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT! THE PEACE OF MIND IS UNRIVALED AND UNMATCHED!

GAME OVER SWEETIE, Play life by yourself, we’re atta here…

Confucius wrote:

Today, I wish he was alive, so that I could have a discussion with him on women and MGTOW. I think he would approve and be able to give valuable insights and advice.

Your grandfather knew the score, he knew commitment was lethal poison! Sounds like a dude that saw the the wholesale slaughter of the unicorn and societies path to perdition.

I was just a little boy when girls wore dresses, had long hair, and boys wore pants and had short hair. The memory has almost faded to black and white, a grey overtone, and lost soundtrack.

This society has bought the farm, if you can’t come to grips with that, I really feel sorry for you and the direction you’re heading.

It’s doesn’t matter what you believe, or how hard you believe it, this society is not coming back and neither am I!

[SwimcatParticipant 3597]

I’m in a similar position to where your grandfather was. My money is going to my retirement. What’s left over when I die will go to my children. It’s all in trust I’ve set up and I’m not changing it. I could be causing the stock of the pharm company that makes Viagra to hit records on the Dow Jones Industrial Average, but its just not worth the risk. I can live without sex. I can’t live without money.

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