My Deal

[IggyThundersParticipant 246]

Hey. Whats up all. I gather this site is very new and heres hoping it gathers some steam in time. Kudos to the people who did the whole layout. The whole site looks great! That being said, here is my deal. I am a 47 year old man who has never been married and has never even lived with a woman for more than a couple of weeks. For this I consider myself lucky compared to most guys. My first and longest relationship with a woman was the girl I lost my virginity too when I was 16. That lasted 4 years until we both drifted and decided we wanted to taste the fruits of others.From that point on until I was 30 I was like a kid in the proverbial candy store. In ten years I managed to rack up about 40 notches on my bed post. None was below a 7 and quite a few were nines and tens.Then when I hit 30 in 1997 I noticed things began to change. I was still the same guy and my looks were pretty much the same, but it became harder and harder to meet women. They were getting bitchier and bitchier and more and more demanding and picky. I thought maybe it was just me but other guys I knew had picked up on the same thing.

I was still a struggling artist, but it appeared that wasnt “Cute” anymore. That wasnt worthy of their affections or moral support anymore except in a platonic way. Somehow I had (without my knowing) been put in the “loser” and “he has no future” category. I was still young enough where even this label I was hit with allowed me to still meet women and get laid but it became a whole f~~~ing production. It was like banging your head against the wall. But by the time I reached my mid to late 30s and then into my 40s I was living a f~~~ing monastic life! Again, I was still the same guy and I still looked great for my age ( I can pass for 5-10 years younger than I am) but I am still not a wealthy or even upper middle class guy. Economically I make about as much as your average working stiff. And in this economy its usually paycheck to paycheck. Add to that that I now have some physical issues that came from being in a car wreck and I am practically persona non grata. I dont even want to tell you how long its been since I last got laid. Let alone kiss or even touch a woman! Yet in a strange way I almost dont give a f~~~ anymore! I was lurking on Tinder and OK Cupid and what I saw horrified me! Tinder by itself is like sociological insight into where American women of the 21st century are at. If you break it down into age ranges it goes something like this:

Women in their 20s

PHOTO POSES: Lots of alcohol. Lots of photos of them with their girlfriends in club wear with that now ubiquitous pose of hand on hip and head c~~~ed.Drunken antics. Weird trying to be funny photos.

(There is nothing particularly weird about this. This is kind of normal 20s behavior.)

BIOS: Mostly non-sensical.Inside jokes and Instagram links.

Women in their 30s

Heres where things start to get interesting.

PHOTO POSES: Yoga poses. Lots and lots of Yoga poses. Dogs. Lots and lots of dogs. (Almost every women above the age of 30 has a dog now. The number of dogs and dependency on said dogs increases with age. These become substitute boyfriends and or husbands when they realize no man will ever live up to her ridiculous standards.) Lots of jumping out of airplanes and sports or athletic endeavors.(This is another modern phenom I have noticed amongst women. All of sudden women have become jocks.Call me old school, but I like my women to be soft and nurturing. Not smelling of Tiger balm and being all hyper competitive.) Mountain climbing and biking, paintball, Cross Fit (This one is huge now), aforementioned Yoga (huge as well), martial arts, marathons etc.

BIOS: Now come’s the lists of demands of what their potential mate MUST HAVE and MUST NOT HAVE.They are often full of themselves in these bios and go to great ends to let you know how fabulous they are, how they dont take any s~~~ and how they are outspoken and sarcastic.And if you cant handle that then you are not really a man secure in himself. If you “Dont love dogs” dont even bother contacting me. If you are a smoker? Same thing. You are a disgusting person and should just go die or shack up with some trailer trash chick.The bios get much longer compared to in their 20s. They are now all “Spiritual” and into some form of Buddhism. They now obsess over food. It must all be organic and they are all vegans or vegetarians and prefer the same in a man. Yet they are still flexible on this issue. (interestingly enough. Being interested in healthy foods, spirituality and health in general is a very natural, nurturing and inborn trait amongst women. In the past this was used to keep her children and husband happy and healthy as the housewife and caregiver. They still have this trait as seen here but it is now an energy looking for an outlet. Instead of going towards a family this energy goes towards themselves, blogging, homeless people and her many dogs.) You are also alerted that she loves to travel, eat at fine restaurants, go wine tasting, sailing and basically live the life of Richard Branson. Well dont we all? Although most mere mortals dont have the time or money to do all these things. And to top this whole thing off is the now ubiquitous Marilyn Monroe quote that they ALL seem to use. Its a quote that shoudl tell a guy everything he needs to know.

“I’m selfish, impatient, and a little insecure. I make mistakes, I’m out of control, and at times hard to handle. But if you can’t handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don’t deserve me at my best.” – Marilyn Monroe

(What man in his right mind would want to have anything to do with a women who writes that about herself?)

Women in their 40s and up:

Photos: Same as in their 30s only this time there are children from her broken marriage and more dogs.

BIO: Same thing as in their 30s. Only now the desperation and anger really comes out HARD! Same Marilyn Monroe quote.

This is largely why I have become a MGHOW. I always promised myself I would never pay for sex or companionship and I still feel that way.I would rather be alone and do some high speed jacking off then get tangled in this s~~~ty web. My heart really goes out to younger guys who are coming of age in this s~~~fest and werent able to experience what it was like before women grew dicks and feminism got a chokehold on the Western world. It all seemed to change in the 90s. I havent given up though. I just dont let it bother me anymore. Besides, there are still women in other parts of the world where this sickness hasnt taken hold. Sorry for my long winded introduction. But this is years of s~~~ I have wanted to get off my chest.

[Total LeeParticipant 1573]

Iggy, my good man, you just said everything I didn’t. Damn fine intro dude.

[VileNordParticipant 766]

Hey IggyThunders, thanks for the read!

I love your analysis of the modern internet dating scene in the aggregate! I’m a lot younger than you but I’m already on the monastic path. If a woman wants to take the initiative and pursue sex with me, I’ll likely oblige her. Other than that, I have an entire harem of digital whores who are willing to perform stunts of a seriously impressive caliber. We men of the digital age are truly blessed in this regard.

Lust for comfort suffocates the soul

[TheBardParticipant 974]

I dont even want to tell you how long its been since I last got laid. Let alone kiss or even touch a woman! Yet in a strange way I almost dont give a f~~~ anymore!

Nothing wrong with that, it has been 3 years for me and I am doing fine. It is called a fleshlight and the internet lol. Sure many women would laugh at me, criticize me, even go as far to say I am a threat or have problem, but they are just threatened because women are afraid of a guy who has no problems not getting laid. They fear us because if other men think that way they as women loose power over men.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

What a great intro from Iggy. And bang-on b~~~~ accurate too. The breakdown of the 20s and 30s toxic attitudes, the “must haves” and the “must hot haves” it was like this guy read my mind! That is the most outrageous s~~~ and women wear it like lipstick.

“you must”.

F~~~ you. No I “must” nothing. In fact, that’s your problem. The fact that you think I “must” do anything for you, means you MUST be dumped as quickly as possible. Like right now.

[*Delete*]

But I “must” concur that I noticed a WILD shift in female social attitudes and behavior in the 90s, and would pin it at around’93 – ’97…where they no longer resembled the younger girls of the previous generation(s) in any way….. with the APEX being around 2005 when I started hearing major “f~~~ this s~~~” from fed-up guys everywhere. That’s when I looked around I saw the most unbelievable examples of entitlement and sociopathy in women who had NO CONCEPT of their own toxicity. The situation has not improved.

I would also thank my personal God I am not 21 anymore. In fact, it’s only been in the last couple of years that I began to notice 18, 20, 22, 24 year old guys getting NOWHERE with women and reporting major dry spells and frustration with their girlfriends and women in general…. with some of them totally fed up by 25 or sooner. This came as perhaps the biggest surprise.

My patience with these t~~~s wore down to nothing with this “must love dogs” bulls~~~. What kind of a c~~~ puts in her dating profile “must love dogs”. First of all, who the f~~~ hates dogs? You know what kind of dogs we hate? The little pomeranian you stuff in your purse who you are nicer to than OTHER PEOPLE you psychotic freak. The fact that you “love dogs” more than other people doesn’t mean we “must” be as insane as you.

It’s true. Observe! Women are actually kinder to pets than OTHER PEOPLE. I was outside in front of the market eating a slice of pizza in the sun and this guy was waiting for a chick with his dog. Texting her on his phone. A few minutes later she showed up and said “hey” … (insert small chat) …. in a sort of quiet neutral tone.

But then, totally brightened up, and kneeled down(!) and SMILED at the DOG and pet him and cuddled him, and talked to him, and gave him all kinds of affection and attention, while giving her own boyfriend NONE of that s~~~.

This was one of the most psychotic nutso displays I have ever observed, and it’s everywhere!!
Women are kinder to PETS than they are to OTHER PEOPLE. Including their own boyfriends.

It’s so whack… I can’t even finish this sentence.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[IggyThundersParticipant 246]

Thanks for the kind replies everyone. I would agree with you Keymaster that the mid 90s seemed to have been the turning point. The 80s was all about decadence, partying and having fun. But by the time the early 90s rolled around you could feel something was changing. The whole Gen-X (my generation) slacker, “im opting out of the machine”, F~~~ the world vibe started to take hold. Women started uglying up and wearing combat boots, swearing like sailors and got all militant. I was in the belly of the beast at the time in San Francisco. The whole “Riot Grrrl” scene started and many of these chicks were just getting out of college and spreading the gospel of the feminist tripe they learned at the feet of their baby boomer professors. By the time the 2000s rolled around that s~~~ had gone mainstream. The ugly clothing and Debbie downer attitudes disappeared (except for certain sub- segments) but by the time Sex and the City came around it had gone mainstream with a bullet . It became the same narcissistic, feminist bulls~~~, only now dressed up in hot pink with Manolo Blahniks to the sound of Beyonces “Put a ring on it”. In some ways I think this whole thing is just a long term trend. Collectively, women are the most trendy creatures on the planet. Something they will of course deny up and down. Sometimes I really think that all it would take is a small “Back to basics” movement by someone these broads respect, backed up by Oprah and Cosmo and they would be jumping like lemmings to join the trend. Of course there would be holdouts. But who gives a s~~~ about those combat boot wearing “I like to fart in front of guys” women? Sooner or later somethings gotta give. Women need men on an emotional level far more than we need them. I dont want to get to futurist here, but if things go bad in America they are gonna need us in a way that renders all the feminist s~~~ and slogans they learned college meaningless. Rubber? I would like you to meet road!

[braininavatParticipant 95]

RE: “All of sudden women have become jocks.”

Women have always been obsessed by their physical appearance. This formerly manifested itself with make up, hair dos, clothes, manicures, etc. Now it manifests itself in sporting prowess. It’s still the same shtick, just old wine in new bottles. It’s still all about how they look, because how they look is how they get power over men.

[RioLoboParticipant 20]

Iggy my brother,
Painted the target well with the ” dog thing” if they cannot manipulate you they do the dog.
Great post

[RobertParticipant 18]

Thanks for your perspective. That Monroe quote is a spoiled entitled child all the way. Just f~~~ed. Great read, IggyThunders!

[DocParticipant 112]

Excellent read @Iggy

[DazzleParticipant 67]

Great intro mate and spot on. I don’t know if you are from the States or where ever, but here in Britain dating sites are just like this. I’m sick to death of the s~~~ I read on them that I started to hit back. Just to wind them up and for my own amusement I put on mine “Must be”, “Don’t like” and was accused of being aggressive and too demanding lol!

[JediTimParticipant 50]

Loved your intro, Iggy. I was born in ’83 so missed much of the cultural shift that you all describe. I’m wondering though – why the shift then (in the mid ’90s?). Second wave-feminism was over for 10 years or so and this third-wave nonsense we’re all living now hadn’t yet begun, had it? Was there something cultural that precipitated the change that I missed?

[LetX=XParticipant 13]

Lol! I have to say I actually laughed pretty hard when I read your post.

Back in the late 1990’s…..on the internet dating profiles I would see a lot of women posing with their infant baby saying “My kid comes first for everything!”

Yet, she’s on a dating site

[TheNinjaUWannaH8Participant 386]

Genius Shiet!  Would love to see Iggy expand his analysis to 50 Year Olds and 60 year old on POF and OkCupid.  Proud Grannies showing their Breasted-eses via a bedroom Selfie with the title “I’m a God Fearing Christian Woman.”

Sure you are.   F~~~ Jesus.  I mean it.   POF/OkCupid Jesus and have him F~~~ You…Cause, I’m not.

[MrDanJD7192Participant 12]

Iggy, great intro my man. You’re absolutely spot on about you’re analysis on internet dating. I swear their profiles are all the same on there like they read from a f~~~ing manual or something about what to write in their profiles. They’re all the f~~~ing same s~~~ such as “I want this….” and “You have to do this….” “You can’t do this…”. I don’t remember thinking women having the right TO THINK they’re ENTITLED to all of their wants and desires. I have wants and desires as well but I can’t fulfil most of them to being with. Them on the other hand don’t give a s~~~ and if you can’t do it then you’re not the “one” for them. I’m 22 years old and after being on the 2 popular online dating websites (Okcupid, POF)  for over a year now, I pretty much seen that I was fighting a losing battle and thought I was crazy that it was only people in my particular area (My county has over 1 million people in it). But then I found this site and started reading everything on here about and it was like a smack to reality. I started looking at these women’s  profiles much more closely and saw that the pattern was clear and indeed I wasn’t crazy after all. I still get asked by my friends since I’m the only single one now out of all of them if I had any luck in finding a girl to be in a relationship with and I said to them that I could really give a f~~~ less about dating a girl because its a huge ass waste of time and resources I could be using for a much better use. I also said until these dumb broads get off their high horses with this kind of attitude they have towards men anymore I said I don’t want nothing to do with a woman period. Just my 2 cents on what I know so far about online dating and where I’m at now.

Welcome to MGTOW and thanks for sharing your story with us. It certainly speaks the truth about online dating for sure.

Best Regards!

– Dan

[LetX=XParticipant 13]

Iggy……I finished up high school in the late 1980’s and all I heard for all my years during undergrad was that my age group was a bunch of “slackers” from entitled, bitter Baby-Boomer college professors who seemed to never give women a grade lower than an ‘A”

After grad school, the world’s largest computer company hired me and moved me to the west coast, and I settled in San Francisco

I lived in San Francisco from 1995-2007 through the dot.com boom and bust……that surreal time just after 9/11 and then to the rise of ‘hipsterdom’ and I found that most women to be exactly as you described.

[jack reacherParticipant 751]

Gash just seems to be gash. I am your age, and look pretty good for it.

Six pack and s~~~ load of energy but all because I don’t waste it on leaching c~~~s. Because contrary to their expectations and that rare indifferent hand job, it just doesn’t give pussy any power in my book.

And I totally can see where you have been regarding viability as a potential wallet or physical distraction for gash in your younger days. And again, you think I would waste money now on an indifferent hand job from some older gash now? Pussy still ain’t that precious.

You are in the right place at the right time now my friend.

 

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