My child's engagement

[Truthseeker82Participant 6406]

So my 27 year old son who is a third year medical student announced his intent to marry his live in girlfriend of over 5 years after he graduates medical school next year.
I’ve been married twice so I have all the folklore he needs to think twice. He is entering a profession which will insure a lifetime of security and high income. He worked very hard to get where he is and I fear the future for him if he does this.
I am tempted to kick a red pill or two in his direction but want to respect his wishes as well. Any suggestions from the brothers here on how to approach this?

[Old RottweilerParticipant 1520]

Give him a copy of the book Men on Strike.

Insist he read MGTOW daily for two months for a hour each day. Tell him if he reads the book and does the research on MGTOW you will give him your reluctant blessing.

[AwakenedParticipant 35202]

I am sorry my friend. I am not looking forward to the day when my only son CHOOSES to ruin his life as well. Maybe, I’ll be lucky and he won’t do it, or I’ll already be dead.

As you know, there’s usually NOTHING you can say or do to stop the ensuing train wreck (IE marriage) with ANY man. You can definitely attempt to educate, but don’t be surprised if he can’t handle the red pill. I TRULY hope I’m wrong !!

I would definitely offer him the red pill because at least that way I could tell myself I tried. A word of advice, don’t make it personal to his girlfriend, but emphasize what you’re sharing (IE red pill) is universal and applies to ALL women.

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[Anonymous 5]

She already trapped him! Medical student? Promising career? Six figure salary? Big house? Nice cars? Big bank account?

My God, the wealthy prince who will help accomplish her fantasies, will be devour by the family court, and will spend the rest of his life as her kingdom’s janitor.

Save him!

[PhilParticipant 205]

You mention live-in girlfriend for 5 years. In some places that means they live common-law. Is he not already fvcked?

[JuehueParticipant 1316]

“Why would you work long hours with little to no break time while your spouse entitled to your property when s~~~ hits the fan?”

Then proceed with “what is your plan B?”

[PuniShredderParticipant 2268]

I’m sorry bro…..

However I must ask, Are you crazy? You’re not throwing your kids red pills? My stepchildren are 11 and 14 and all I ever tell them to stay away from women and then I show them things and tell him why. I figure it’s my job to try to protect them a little bit while I’m still around. As a father I think it’s incumbent upon you to take your son aside and tell them your story and give them your wisdom.

Be professional be polite but always have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

[MutineerParticipant 1467]

Truthseeker82 wrote:

So my 27 year old son who is a third year medical student announced his intent to marry his live in girlfriend of over 5 years after he graduates medical school next year.
I’ve been married twice so I have all the folklore he needs to think twice. He is entering a profession which will insure a lifetime of security and high income. He worked very hard to get where he is and I fear the future for him if he does this.
I am tempted to kick a red pill or two in his direction but want to respect his wishes as well. Any suggestions from the brothers here on how to approach this?

Does the would-be bride also have high earning potential? Is she pushing for marriage?

"The secret to happiness is freedom... And the secret to freedom is courage." - Thucydides

[Old RottweilerParticipant 1520]

Is she a med student also?

I was talking to an old friend last night, we were both in agreement that the only way to have a long term relationship with a woman is if the woman has more money than you.

Women, being more cunning than men, will only marry a richer man.

Solves that problem.

[JuehueParticipant 1316]

If she is indeed a med student, I think it would make the case stronger. It simply means the debt is double. What if they have kids? Will she be off the work force and your son has to take on the debt alone, on top of mortgage and other s~~~s.

If your son accused you of being bitter, tell him that you DO learn something after failure.

[MutineerParticipant 1467]

If knowing what you know you wish your father had given you the gift of a Red Pill then i think you know what you have to do. You should make it clear that if he goes ahead you’ll respect his choice but you have to play devils advocate, because you have his best interests at heart.

"The secret to happiness is freedom... And the secret to freedom is courage." - Thucydides

[BadgerParticipant 2277]

Old Rottweiler wrote:

Give him a copy of the book Men on Strike.
Insist he read MGTOW daily for two months for a hour each day. Tell him if he reads the book and does the research on MGTOW you will give him your reluctant blessing.

Good advice and add The Manipulated Man and others like Lawrence Shannon’s book. That way he cannot come back on you and say that you did not warn him. Don’t withhold critical information from him. I am so thankful for the people who clued me in and saved me from the disasters we read about daily in this forum.

[Anonymous 5]

Offer him some type of incentive to breeze through these very quick reads.

Badger wrote:

Esther Vilar
The Manipulated Man Online at:
https://dontmarry.files.wordpress.com/28/8/the_manipulated_man.pdf

Chinweizu
The Anatomy of Female Power: A Masculinist Dissection of Matriarchy. Online at:
http://therawness.com/AFP.pdf

Lawrence Bostwick Shannon
The Predatory Female. A Field Guide to Dating and the Marriage-Divorce Industry. Online at:
https://www.scribd.com/document/151933863/The-Predatory-Female%5B/quote%5D

[Truthseeker82Participant 6406]

I think she is pushing even though he proposed.

[Truthseeker82Participant 6406]

I’ll send him a link to this website – a couple of days of pouring through the misery and destruction we men have endured should do it. If not, nothing will.

[BadgerParticipant 2277]

In addition, explain to him that since the no fault divorce laws, as Keymaster and many others on this forum have clearly explained, he is not “getting married” as much as he is signing a legally binding contract with a government that places by far the majority of the emotional, economic, and financial risk on HIM. Countless guys here have explained and documented the horrors of and the downside of signing that unfair contract. If he is willing to risk almost everything and enter into such a contract, then you have at least cleared your conscience in that you warned him.

[BadgerParticipant 2277]

Make sure he also reads the info in this link to The S~~~ Test Encyclopedia:

The S~~~ Test Encyclopedia

Also, have him search manipulation techniques on the Internet.

Another suggestion: Have him read the chapters “Marriage for the Millions” and “The Manipulators” in Marguerite and Willard Beecher’s Beyond Success and Failure: Ways to Self-Reliance and Maturity.

[GrumpyParticipant]

Truthseeker82 wrote:

So my 27 year old son who is a third year medical student announced his intent to marry

My sincerest condolences on both the loss of your son, and your son’s upcoming losses

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[Jack HarperParticipant 2863]

Truthseeker82 wrote:

I think she is pushing even though he proposed.

I think that’s always the case. Especially where they smell potential and success. And women are like bloodhounds in that regard.

Truthseeker it’s probably too late for your son, I’m sorry to say. I would make the attempt. But it’s probably too late. She has her claws in him. Pussy power is overwhelming his rational brain. But still, as a father you need to try. You might try taking him to a divorce attorney and have them have a frank conversation about the risks and what he stands to lose and how devastated men are after divorce.

As a general rule I think as fathers and, indeed, as older wiser men we should start dispensing red pills as early as possible. As I’ve noted before I started last year with my sons who were then only 10 and 7. They were with me for Thanksgiving when a good friend told me his wife had taken their kids and wanted a divorce. He was really down so I got my kids in the car and went to visit. Though I tried to keep them busy with other activities that weekend; they overheard some of our conversations and his despair and hopelessness and pain. They asked what was wrong, and my reply was “Boys… the best advice I can give you in your life is don’t ever get married. If you only ever remember one piece of advice I give you, let it be that.”

Now when my boys shared with their mom what I had said she was angry and began texting me saying it was setting a bad example and I was risking their happiness because of my issues, bitterness etc. My response was, “Let me ask you; do you really want your own sons to go through what you put me through? Because statistically, that is going to happen to at least one of them.” She never replied to that particular text.

I shard this on a YouTube discussion and someone replied, “She didn’t reply because you WON that argument.”

I’ve won several arguments with my ex. After we started the divorce. Don’t think I ever won any while we were married. lol.

[BadgerParticipant 2277]

Recently, member 2017 posted an interesting experience and conversation with a doctor.

Male Self Sovereignty Will Have Far Reaching Consequences to Society..

Since your son is in the medical field and I assume that means as a future doctor, that post might be something to show him.

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