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I originally started out as a MRA advocate, and more and more i realized that i identified as an MGTOW. And today i learn this for truth. In one of Sandmans videos he warned about #womenagainstfeminism being a reaction to the mens movement in general and that we need to be cautious about falling for women who support mens rights as time passed i could see this especially in the AVFM site especially in the comments. My contribution were more aggressive against women calling out their bulls~~~ especially where it pertains to commitment and marriage. Today i realized that they had me on a “Watch list” discussion thread here – http://www.avoiceformen.com/gynocentrism/the-myth-of-the-strong-independent-woman/. Where i basically took an extreme view about women being independent. After a few exchanges with the moderator (a woman) who is in all entirely challenging my assertions – not for spamming or breaking any other rules – just for having a different point of view banned me. You can see the history of comments with the moderator.
I had never realized it but AVFM is being infiltrated by women who are now against any ‘extreme’ male views. In a previous discussion where i was warned because i had called bulls~~~ on a DV male victim because he had no reason for staying with his abuser. http://www.avoiceformen.com/mens-rights/domestic-violence-industry/in-his-own-words-how-i-wound-up-in-the-domestic-violence-industry-grinder/
Sandman is right – the MRA movement will bring more men closer to the MGTOW movement. The only way to do something is to NOT GIVE A S~~~. Not giving a s~~~ will eventually collapse the economy. And there is this theory of the “tipping point” which may not have been reached yet but it will. These MRAs want intimacy, the want the relationship, the whole nine yards – even though women are largely incapable of participating in this exercise without them abusing men. But MRA’s have no power to do any of these things! They have no voting power, no representation, they are widely viewed as a hate group. They are totally ineffective. These MRA women could be trojan horses, and they should be mindful of this possibility.
Hi WGone. Welcome! and thanks for posting.
Barbarossa and Sandman each have a video on #womenagainstfeminism (added here) and they are both very correct.
There is a reason they created #womenagainstfeminism and not #womenforthepatriarchy.
A “fist in a velvet glove” is all it is. MGTOW are three steps ahead in terms of awareness.If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.You have to remain strong even in the face of a honey badger. This kinda of reminds me of video games in the 90’s and early 2000’s. When it was all guys and woman would just mock you for your hobby, but it was fine because you at least had your games. But then they noticed that it was full of un-mined male attention and beta orbiters. Now we have a ton of fake gamer girls that just revel in the attention and money they get from these poor saps. It is funny looking back on it now I guess it was sort of the promised land for them.
Every “Women Against Feminism” that i’ve met, is in deed a feminist, they still think, behave, and act like feminists.
So, in my books, i don’t give a f~~~ if your against feminism, i’m still not doing a thing for you.
Hell, just take a look at the name itself, “WOMEN” against feminism, honestly, it just scream attention whore.
Why not People against feminism? don’t you find it contradictory for it to be “Women” against feminism? Is that not implying that it may not be ok for men to be against feminism?
There are just way too many selfish reasons for a women to call her self a “Woman against feminism.”Why don’t they simply start calling themselves an MRA?
OH WAIT! That’s because their name is MISLABELED, it’s actually the… “feminists in denial” group.
What do you want to bet that “Women against feminism” meet ups also end up turning into man bashing parties?Just took a look at: http://womenagainstfeminism.tumblr.com
So, how the hell does this not scream feminism?So, I’m just going to hope that AVFM doesn’t get corrupted by “feminists in denial” and manginas.
I’ve known for quiet some time that they’ve been getting infiltrated by feminists and manginas…
What happens when a woman joins AVFM? She gets her fake plastic dick sucked by all of the desperate blue pillers.
Does it really seem acceptable for AVFM to so aggressively promote every single FEMALE MRA that pops up on the net?
Got the same issue as with “feminists in denial,” they are most definitely attention whoring.Well… whatever…, if it gets any worse, i might just have to stop calling them MRAs and root for some other MRA group.
My Goal: To Leave Society.
Seriously, just take a look at #WomenAgainstFeminism…
Like holly f~~~ing hell, it is PATHETIC.
It truly is, “Feminists In Denial”
Just based on the pictures on that tumbler site:
Translation:-I’m a big girl now,
-I’m a feminist in denial, i’m just saying this line to be politically correct
-I’m an attention whore, please worship me
-I’m a gold digger and i want to keep it as being socially acceptable
-I was given lots of money because i’m pretty and now i’m sort of feeling guilty, but it’s mostly because i can never be happy with anything
-I want to be able to insult whom ever i want to
-I like to experiment and am extremely insecure about it, which is why i’m telling you this
Translation:I hate women because they are mean to me… i really don’t understand what feminism is and am actually quite clueless.
I’m here because i’m looking for some attention… i really have no idea what this movement is about.
Translation (really having trouble translating this one lol… just hard to narrow it down):I’m a feminist
I’m a big girl now
Translation:I’m an attention whore, why else would i be holding this card with my lips?
I’m not a crazy woman
I don’t hate men
Please, i swear i’m a normal sane women
I’m not a feminist, so please f~~~ me.Wouldn’t be surprised if i wasn’t too far off, admittedly not the most neutral interpretations 😛
Just what i’m seeing as a first glance
My Goal: To Leave Society.
I really like your interpretations 🙂
In fact, there’s just only one photo in the whole WAF that really positively surprises me: a beautiful girl from Italy 🙂 : she write “I want obey to my husband” 🙂Woman do tend to go to where the attention is. Now that feminism is main stream and tons of woman identify with the movement it is to difficult to stand out and be noticed. A woman stands in the courtyard of her university and proclaims “I am a feminist”, and the most you will get is some polite applause and maybe a woman cheering. Not the monocle popping expression that it once was. So now they moved on to the next big thing, and that is Anti-feminism. I am sure some of these woman are truthful in what they are putting in their pictures and would like to see the movement be brought back to a more humanist and fair ground stance, but for MGTOW it is to late. We have heard their battle call and responded with indifference, sure they will put a good chunk of MRAs and sprinkling of MGTOWs back to work for them but they opened another Pandora’s box. The first one unleashed evil onto the world and the second one is indifference to that evil.
I tend to agree #WomenAgainstFeminism isn’t anything about male rights it’s something for the women. It is however in our best interest to support them against feminism in the sense that an enemy of my enemy is my ally, it is simply a case of they are not for us but rather against something we are against as well. They are still not an MRA in the true sense because then they would use the tag #WomenForMensRights instead. A large number of the women do appear to be simply trying to attract the attention of men who don’t like feminism, fine let them go which ever way they want. Thankfully that will cause attention both from the media and from blue pill men. For that I would truly say thank you for the help. I guess a little honey badger might help the red pill go down easier in the long run. I think Wgone is right the trick is not to care the problem is that also means not to get too upset about it either. As a man going my own way I really don’t care which way the women want to go. If they should end up heading the same direction and are willing to help pick up resources along the way I might chose to align more with them, if not then good luck on your path.
If it p~~~es off feminists then it’s worth something, but as far as actually being taken seriously and inviting to the discussion table, no thanks. MRA’s are probably thinking they found a treasure trove of NAWALT’s to date.
The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.MRAs are feminists in disguise. They strive for the same “equality” bulls~~~. Stuff like AVFM is basically a backup plan, when blunt feminism blows up in their face. This way the hope, that they can continue male exploitation by making it look a bit more “fair”. I don’t think MRAs got infiltrated, they got founded right from start with this purpose.
Feminists in disguise are worse than feminists. Just as terrorists (camouflaging as civilians) are worse than some dictator’s uniformed militia.
“Women Against Feminism” are just feminists trying to change tactics in order to attract men for themselves. A woman who talks about how bad feminism is and succeeds in getting a guy, gets married to him, and watch her change her entire opinion around as she gleefully brags about how “all men are pigs” and “my husband is an idiot” in public forums.
Women can claim to be against feminism as much as they want. Even I agree with them that feminism has reached it’s peak and is now slowly wilting in support like a dying plant. But they’re still not getting my attention, my money, or my name on the dotted line of the marriage contract. I don’t give a f~~~ if things go back to Marriage 1.0. I’m already too busy living my own life. I have two jobs, spend most of my spare time sleeping, and have no extra time with a woman. F~~~ them. These “women against feminism” don’t f~~~ing impress me a bit. Nice try, c~~~s, but Charlie Brown isn’t going to try kicking that football again.
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