Mothers and Sons

[Mike_CroftParticipant 120]

I’ve been thinking recently about mothers, especially single or “independent” mothers, and the utility they recieve from their sons. On this issue I speak from my own experience, as well as many other low to moderate income level families I have observed. I do not know much about the upper class.

Mothers have a few years when their sons are dependent, more of a burden than a boone, let’s say 5-10 years, at most. After this very brief period of innocence those boys will be expected to pick up the mantle of responsible male behavior. From that day forward, his mother, and probably many other women will expect and recieve from him his dedicated service as an unpaid bodyguard, provider, emotional tampon, whipping boy, husband/father figure. And it is not just unpaid, it is unappreciated. It is downright resented.

Why do we do it? We learned it so young. It is not easy to unlearn. I am unlearning my gynocentrism everyday. I appreciate those who are patient with me, and I dont mind those who razz me a little. We are men. It our way to kid and chide to encourage, but red-pill rage is real… I, for one, advocate kindness as a default response, but to each his own.
Let me know your thoughts.

[bstoffParticipant 4863]

Males, as they like to call us, are trained from childhood, to be the servants of women.
That’s a given.

I’ve learned it from every female member of my family.

You can see it everywhere you go.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

I can write a 30 page thread on this alone.

My “divorce” was when I moved out of my parents’ place at age 23.

My father was a cuck, beaten down, s~~~ talked, shamed and yelled at by 3 c~~~s until he often snapped and sometimes destroyed the entire apartment or at least parts of it. He was beaten down since he worked his ass off only to be constantly insulted and declared to be “lazy” by his “loving family”…

Then they “grabbed” me as “the responsible scape goat” for everything that went wrong or did not get fixed “ASAP”… (Since I could repair things starting at age 5)

It seemed like my predisposed reason for living was playing the servant monkey for the mother and grandmother c~~~s.

Since my father had emotionally disconnected and slept on the sofa immediately after coming home from work… To be able to stay up and watch TV until the 2 am test pattern came (1980’s)…

My father was only “physically there” and I now stopped blaming him after seeing through the female s~~~ he was constantly exposed to.

I even highly admire him now for not beating them to death.

And so I had to swallow all of the s~~~ from the 3 screeching harpies. People now wonder why I did not turn into a serial killer.

I always say: “Pure intelligence. And total disconnection from what c~~~s say when they open their useless and insulting mouths”.

I was responsible for fixing anything and everything that broke.

I was “declared” responsible and bitched at for her cats s~~~ting and p~~~ing up the entire place… Because I would not jump up and clean it up ASAP.

She was watching TV while the place looked like a bombing site.

I had to skip school to deal with and clean up my parents’ mess.

And fix their s~~~. And finish huge building jobs on the family house. Well, mother c~~~ was bitching and complaining until my father dropped all tools “on the spot” and yelled “I now let it all go to s~~~”… And so I had to finish it (age 15)…

Family?

No, that is no more.

Never again.

No c~~~.

Total freedom.

Running a company and making 6-figures was not as stressful as this.

No hole is worth that.

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[GargamelSpectator 29101]

More on that here:

/forums/topic/boys-scouts-2018-no-place-for-normal-boys-anymore/#post-815837

And following posts…

On how I became a very “difficult” son.

Whole village c~~~ hoards hate me to this date.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22510]

Thing that got me was after my folks divorce, I was with mom. Mom had hormonal imbalances – real ones, that really made her lose her s~~~ over little things. She had a full hysterectomy and did hormone replcement therpay and she was really a lot better. Later she would tell me that during those times it was like she couldnt stop herself. Like she was outside her body looking down at herself acting that way. Not as an excuse, but to just explain it. I believe her given after her operation and gormone therapy she was a lot better and could be happy.

You now know why women do not have testosterone levels like men, they cant control themselves. I remember reading the posts of the female bodybuilders taking testosterone that doubled their normal female levels, and how nuts they felt trying to control themselves, sexually, and from an anger point of view. Double their normal level is still ten times less than the average mans t levels.

They really do not appreciate how most men really hold their s~~~ together and just not beat the living crap out of their provoking, smartass smart mouths.

In any case, I was stuck with mom. So now I got the full crazy. Why cant the kids divorce the parents? Why can the mom and dad split up and no longer be family? Why do the kids have to stay, stuck? Why cant we leave too? Id have stayed with my grandparents, they were in the same town, I was a good kid and graduated 10th in my class. Probably would have soured me a bit on my grandma if that were to happen but s~~~, how can the parents get to call it quits but the kids cant? Let them get out of a bad situation. Then maybe the one or both s~~~ parents seeing their kids reject them, maybe that will force them to own and get their own s~~~ together.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[Mike_CroftParticipant 120]

Wow!

“They really do not appreciate how most men really hold their s~~~ together and just not beat the living crap out of their provoking, smartass smart mouths.”

That is the most true thing ever! I wish I could rate this post even higher for that! This quote sums it all up for me!

[Anonymous 42]

Things are past falling apart, they’re disintegrating! Unfortunately I also am one of America’s sons that unplugged for obvious gynocentric reasons.

Now that I’m aware of gynocentrism and what it is, I see it women around me all the time, I don’t think women are even aware of this condition, they seem oblivious as they jump from one gynocentric platform to another seamlessly and without pause.

Men are s~~~ and it’s long past due time to play the part.

[bladeParticipant]

MANGINAS .

Just read the heading thats all .

F~~~ where do ya begin .

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[bladeParticipant]

Gargamel wrote:

I can write a 30 page thread on this alone.

He’s not f~~~ing kidding . Cats and all . Seen it

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22510]

Anonymous wrote:

Things are past falling apart, they’re disintegrating! Unfortunately I also am one of America’s sons that unplugged for obvious gynocentric reasons.

Now that I’m aware of gynocentrism and what it is, I see it women around me all the time, I don’t think women are even aware of this condition, they seem oblivious as they jump from one gynocentric platform to another seamlessly and without pause.

Men are s~~~ and it’s long past due time to play the part.

It is cool that you see this obliviousness. Here is why that is. Two main factors. One, almost all women are not capable of objective introspection. Two, almost all women believe their experience is the universal experience. This is why.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[ArcturisParticipant 2819]

Mike_Croft wrote:

From that day forward, his mother, and probably many other women will expect and recieve from him his dedicated service as an unpaid bodyguard, provider, emotional tampon, whipping boy, husband/father figure. And it is not just unpaid, it is unappreciated. It is downright resented.

This is very true and something I’ve asked for advice on in a few of my threads.

It got to a point where I was financially supporting my Mother & Sister HEAVILY. Alongside this, they lived with me for about a year and ‘couldn’t’ pay any rent the entire time. After consulting you guys I had a difficult conversation and had to cut them off. They were bleeding me dry and even now I’m still recovering.

When your Mother and Sister ask for £50-150 EVERY WEEK because they can’t afford to eat / buy toiletries / pay rent…as a BLUE PILL CONDITIONED MAN with an obligation to his ‘queens’ it was very hard to say no.

As there is no other man to support them, as the son, you are the DEFAULT ‘bodyguard, provider, emotional tampon, whipping boy, husband/father figure‘.

It’s what’s expected and as you mentioned you get very little thanks or appreciation.

I wrote off their debt of THOUSANDS and vowed to never lend them again unless I’m willing to loose it.

I love my family BUT AWALT. They drain your resources and give little in return.

Protect Your Sovereignty. Women WILL TRY To Manipulate You. #NOCONTACT #ICETHEMOUT

[Anonymous 1]

Yeah, when my Dad moved out I was age 8. I was then tasked with being surrogate Father for Mother and Sister. The constant bitching and nagging burned me out permanently. I already did enough parenting back then to last me a life time.

I don’t want to be a Father or a Husband, I already did that before I was even an adult. No more, not worth it.

The boys that grew up like this and keep doing it through their adult life, have Stockholm Syndrome. They either like the abuse or believe they can’t live without it.

#NEVERAGAIN

[Anonymous 3]

I can identify, relate or whatever you want to call it to almost everything written on this thread & what it does to me is kick up some red pill anger.
My out was the military & a long journey into alcoholism & addiction. I paid a hard price in the blue pill world of being raised by ” mommy”
40 yrs of insanity.
MGTOW 30 yrs.
F~~~em
MGTOW IS FREEDOM

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant]

Mike_Croft wrote:

Why do we do it? We learned it so young. It is not easy to unlearn. I am unlearning my gynocentrism everyday. I appreciate those who are patient with me, and I dont mind those who razz me a little. We are men. It our way to kid and chide to encourage, but red-pill rage is real… I, for one, advocate kindness as a default response, but to each his own.
Let me know your thoughts.

Starting at about 9, most boys are more responsible and capable than average adult women. Once puberty hits and the testosterone is flowing at 13? Game over. No competition.

Why do you do it? Because you spent your formative years building relationships and abstract concepts in your brain under the tutelage of a crazy person. You are literally groomed to become a groom, a provider, a battery. You do it to please the parental authority figure–this is a biological quirk. Young children LOVE to please their parents…until puberty hits and they instinctively look for boundaries and try to flee the nest (as long as they haven’t developed “learned helplessness”)

Men build pyramids and rockets, walk on the moon and the ocean floor, send robots into volcanoes, map the solar system, invented trigonometry and antibiotics. And yet we find ourselves yoked to a walking disease factory that can barely maintain regular employment, and only because of the threat of being sued when fired. We are brainwashed and programmed from early developmental years to care and provide for these homo inferior.

Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Anonymous wrote:

Yeah, when my Dad moved out I was age 8. I was then tasked with being surrogate Father for Mother and Sister. The constant bitching and nagging burned me out permanently. I already did enough parenting back then to last me a life time.

I don’t want to be a Father or a Husband, I already did that before I was even an adult. No more, not worth it.

The boys that grew up like this and keep doing it through their adult life, have Stockholm Syndrome. They either like the abuse or believe they can’t live without it.

#NEVERAGAIN

We are 1:1 brothers on the opposite side of the globe.

I was the parent for my parents.

We both had “difficult” uneducateable parents.

My 93 yo-mother is the last female I will ever endure.

One of her 2 goddamn cats just had (accidental) access to one of my tool storage rooms and p~~~ed into my cable box, a 1.5 m wide metal drawer full of my old but still worthwhile workplace cables.

Anybody who knows how much oscilloscope probes cost will see how p~~~ed off I am.

And how much manual work goes into making custom connectors…

500 pieces to be cleaned in the bathtub and she doesn’t even apologize.

I made pictures and will post a thread on that.

If you live with a cat-lady c~~~, her cats can and will make you sick.

This s~~~ takes even paint off and rots through metal in no time. No one can tell me that it is not severely unhealthy to live with cat smell in any apartment..

Nothing good comes from c~~~s.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[MonkParticipant 16985]

A c~~~ is a c~~~ is a c~~~.

#UNC~~~TOBEFREE

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