More truth in mass media: FOX News Opinion article “Why men won't marry you”

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

I just found some “good news” today.

The main MGTOW topic in a mass media publication.

“Why men won’t marry you”

The article is from 2015 but it is worth reading. And it is one more good sign that critical thinking about marriage is now reaching the mass media.

So they are helping our cause without even mentioning MGTOW.

It’s another “exhibit A” that this critical thinking towards marriage slavery is a neutral opinion that is “out there” and stems from a relatively credible and official source.

Whenever someone criticizes MGTOW, we can point to this article and say: That is common knowledge, no more blaming us MGTOW…

Why men won’t marry you

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[SamsquanchParticipant 4226]

2. Because there’s nothing in it for them: What exactly does marriage offer men today? “Men know there’s a good chance they’ll lose their friends, their respect, their space, their sex life, their money and — if it all goes wrong — their family,” says Helen Smith, Ph.D., author of “Men on Strike.” “They don’t want to enter into a legal contract with someone who could effectively take half their savings, pension and property when the honeymoon period is over.Men aren’t wimping out by staying unmarried or being commitment phobes. They’re being smart.”

And boom goes the dynamite

[TuneoutParticipant]

Written by a Trad Con woman to boot,too bad it will fall on mostly deaf Lib ears.

callynf Aug 16, 2016
Shortest fairy tale ever written:

A man once asked a woman to marry him.

The woman said “No”.

The man lived happily ever after.

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LOL comments are in line with the article though

Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!

[EyeswideopenParticipant 2930]

Marriage as a social construct is dead.

In reality, with the free government handouts, women don’t need marriage either – all they need is a sperm donor. Nanny government will pick up the bill for financial relief, housing and healthcare. Men will pay indirectly through higher taxes as “professional” single moms draw from the system until collapse. Men really only have 2 options – work or prison.

I don’t know if it is so much that men are “on strike” as they just don’t care – apathy towards LTR is starting to bleed into the social unconsciousness.

- Marriage is described as an institution. You would have to be crazy to be commited to it. -"If you want to live a happy life, tie it to a goal. Not people or things" Albert Einstein

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Tuneout wrote:

LOL comments are in line with the article though

Haha yeah…I love some of the comments women put on there. Crap like “The man will still get love and companionship from marriage!” I don’t know what is so hard for them to figure out if a guy truly wants these things he can have just as much luck getting them from a girlfriend, only he doesn’t have to worry about a future divorce rape from a gf like he does marriage.

[Anonymous 3]

It really doesn’t matter what they think the reason is, or even what the actual reason is.

MGTOW means we left the negotiating table, shut down our business, moved out of town, bought a shack and a fishing boat and are now out on the water fishing our days away. You can’t get us to go back into the city now and walk back to the table. We don’t care that you promise you won’t be as caustic and arrogant, we don’t care if you upgraded the table to a rich mahogany table. Or that instead of a flickering light over our stool, you replaced it with a normal bright light and a comfortable chair.

We’re fine on our fishing boat.

Oh wait, just hooked another one, I’ll have to get back to you (hangs up).

[Silverstone the SecondParticipant]

Marriage used to be the way we arranged the family, dealt with property and land exchange. Marriage was always a legal contract. Sure, it might be dressed up in pomp and ceremony now, but it’s still a legal contract, one that sucks for men and is great for women.

So…

“WHY ARE MEN NOT SIGNING S~~~TY LEGAL CONTRACTS?”

Isn’t it obvious?

Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

In 2013, David Brooks, famous economist and NYT editorial writer noticed this phenomena of men leaving the workplace. Men are going their own way according to Brooks and it is an economic disaster we are watching in slow motion:

In 1954, 96 percent of American men between 25 and 54 years old worked. Today, 80 percent do. One-fifth of men in their prime working ages are out of the labor force.

As Nicholas Eberstadt of the American Enterprise Institute has put it, “The situation here is basically a disaster, a crisis far worse than most commentators and policy makers seem to recognize, and with no clear prospects for appreciable improvement over the near-term horizon.”

It’s not letting me post the link but look for “Men on the threshold” by david brooks and it will come up.

The article’s bulls~~~ conclusion is that men are afraid of strong women in the workplace. NYT feminist drivel.

It doesn’t change the fact that men have been going their own way at increasing rates for many years now.

And it has been known by the main street media and powers that be.

That is why MGTOW is scaring the s~~~ out of them. Men are organizing to say f~~~ you to the plantation lady. The plantation is already feeling the burn.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

One of the comments:

“We crave those traits that women were traditionally known for, sweetness, femininity, and above all, virtue. When these three are gone, so is a womans intrinsic value.”

Agree. You don’t see a lot of sweetness in ladies these days.

In entering a contract, both parties have consideration. What man would enter into a contract that was grossly unfair towards him and greatly benefitted his wife? No thank you sweetie.

[Anonymous 11]

Women are entitled childish c~~~s.

I can have every possession I’ve ever acquired stripped away from just because she feels like it.

The law is stacked in her favor with White Knights sporting badges itching for a chance to taze me, beat me, and jail me on her lying words.

The 10 to 30 years she spent riding the c~~~ carousel really adds to the attractiveness factor too.

Women are about as interesting as watching paint dry.

Her bitter feminist indoctrination really helps.

Enjoy your f~~~ing cats, you washed out vapid indebted sluts. You’ve come a long way, baby.

Marriage, sure sign me up for that ass ream.

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

If the man refuses, we call him, as Smith notes, a “commitment phobe.” But is that fair? Perhaps these men know all too well that women initiate the vast majority of divorces — anywhere from 65-90 percent, depending on demographics. And when they do, they take the kids with them and hang hubby out to dry with the help of a court system that’s heavily stacked in their favor. In the past, Mom got the kids because she was home with them doing the thankless, unpaid, mountainous work associated with that role. Today, neither parent is home, so there’s no reason the default custodial parent should be Mom.

So remind me, why would a man marry today?

No, really. What’s in it for him?

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[RedRojasParticipant 559]

You get to give your children your surname. Hmm, I guess that’s about it.

Consistency is victory - Ultra Magnus

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

How is this an opinion piece?

Seems pretty damn factual to me.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

The article was pretty good. The author has access to some common sense.

RedRojas wrote:

You get to give your children your surname. Hmm, I guess that’s about it.

Not true. My daughter was born before we got married, but I still gave her my last name. It’s allowed at least in the US

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[GrumpyParticipant]

Blue Skies wrote:

“commitment phobe.”

The Institution of Marriage…
Yes, I do have a fear about being “committed” to any “institution”.
Especially one that ends in divorce.
FTA
When more women make themselves sexually available, the pool of marriageable men diminishes. “In a world where women do not say no, the man is never forced to settle down and make serious choices,” writes George Gilder, author of “Men and Marriage.”

Again, Notice the key words here.
Women
No
Forced
Serious
Choices

I choose the options from what I want to choose, being limited by what a woman tries to force me to choose between immediately makes that choice easier.
I choose me

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[Anonymous 3]

Pretty much every young man I’ve known in my life wants to find one woman to wife up. It is women that refuse to get married when young. So who refuses commitment?

Yes, after decades of relationship, men then no longer wish marriage. But it’s not like women are even then committing or are even good quality at that point.

A man would still probably agree to marry an 18 year old virgin. He just doesn’t want to marry the 35 year old single mother that has shown she can not pair bond and raise a family, and has no sense of family obligation.

With the 18 year old, perhaps she won’t either, and many men will likely be cautious there as well. But at least she doesn’t have a PROVEN track record of failure.

It’s like hiring an employee. Sure, that kid fresh out of school has no experience. But maybe he’s saying the right things and showing he has an interest in making it work. That is a better bet than hiring someone with 15 years of experience, with 50 different employers, and a record of tardiness, absenteeism, drunkenness and workplace issues. I KNOW it didn’t work with the latter, the former I don’t KNOW what will happen.

Anyone that marries a woman that isn’t a young virgin is a gigantic idiot. Especially if she’s already been divorced and had kids, the question is why didn’t it work then, what makes you think it will work now?

You can argue all marriage is bad. I won’t argue too much with you. But some are even WORSE than others. Some men still want marriage and family and are willing to take the risk. Ok, fine, marry the 18 year old virgin then, and take a shot at it. At least take a sensible gamble, don’t gamble something that has almost no chance of working.

[RhinoParticipant 3477]

Anonymous wrote:

Pretty much every young man I’ve known in my life wants to find one woman to wife up. It is women that refuse to get married when young. So who refuses commitment?

Yes, after decades of relationship, men then no longer wish marriage. But it’s not like women are even then committing or are even good quality at that point.

A man would still probably agree to marry an 18 year old virgin. He just doesn’t want to marry the 35 year old single mother that has shown she can not pair bond and raise a family, and has no sense of family obligation.

With the 18 year old, perhaps she won’t either, and many men will likely be cautious there as well. But at least she doesn’t have a PROVEN track record of failure.

It’s like hiring an employee. Sure, that kid fresh out of school has no experience. But maybe he’s saying the right things and showing he has an interest in making it work. That is a better bet than hiring someone with 15 years of experience, with 50 different employers, and a record of tardiness, absenteeism, drunkenness and workplace issues. I KNOW it didn’t work with the latter, the former I don’t KNOW what will happen.

Anyone that marries a woman that isn’t a young virgin is a gigantic idiot. Especially if she’s already been divorced and had kids, the question is why didn’t it work then, what makes you think it will work now?

You can argue all marriage is bad. I won’t argue too much with you. But some are even WORSE than others. Some men still want marriage and family and are willing to take the risk. Ok, fine, marry the 18 year old virgin then, and take a shot at it. At least take a sensible gamble, don’t gamble something that has almost no chance of working.

Even an 18 year old will grow into the hive eventually and learn how to manipulate men to get what they want. As soon as their hypergamy kicks in they will move on to the next victim as they get older the only way to keep a 18 year old from becoming like this to move to another planet where you will be the only ones there to live. But I suspect her nature will kick in regardless and still somehow connect to the hive telepathically because it is in their nature to be this way.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

An 18 year old will learn to want half of all your s~~~ like in this fun Eddie Murphy video where he says he’s a target so wants to marry a bush woman because she not a spoiled entitled Amerabitch.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[WallyParticipant]

I give Mrs. Smith credit for seeing some parts Of the truth not all but some. But in the end it doesn’t matter to me.

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

[WraithParticipant 242]

Hopefully lots of young men see that article and others like it before they cross the line.

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