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More and more Men are getting theirs and getting out.
I read an article today by Zerohedge. The term from the article is “FIRE”, which stands for “Financial Independence Retire Early”. What a wonderful term. A few years ago, I heard terms like this on MGTOW channels. Now, such terms are becoming more comment place.
I guess after decades of men being treated like disposable commodities by corporations, government, women, and society as a whole, men got the message that they need to focus solely on getting theirs and getting out as soon as possible.
The article makes one mistake, they mistake this for “burn out”. Quite the reverse. It is that men are doing this to avoid burning out with nothing. And these men in the article are some of those with the near top jobs. Those that half a century ago would have go the 30 years mortgage, had the wife and kids, and paid into the system for thirty or forty years. Now, the men are not interest in being tied to any debts they see as no win situations. Instead they focus on the ten year plan and getting enough to retire as a bachelor and get out. That means that those men are on funding into the system for decades and this has those at the top worried.
Keep in mind, it is claimed that men make the most money, but it is women that spend the most money. Men focusing on themselves is starting to effect the system by not funding the system.
Here is the article: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-24/human-cost-recovery-were-burning-out
And when all of those key positions are vacated without competent people to work in them, there will be a crisis of incompetent women attempting to do their affirmative action jobs.
Gone Galt.Fire. When I first started to read the article I was thinking so much more could be done with this then focus on burn out. Then you figure the average Joe is at best just getting an introduction to mgtow and the thought process involved. Fire and burnout will save some men with out being full on going your own way.
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More and more Men are getting theirs and getting out.
I read an article today by Zerohedge. The term from the article is “FIRE”, which stands for “Financial Independence Retire Early”. What a wonderful term. A few years ago, I heard terms like this on MGTOW channels. Now, such terms are becoming more comment place.
I guess after decades of men being treated like disposable commodities by corporations, government, women, and society as a whole, men got the message that they need to focus solely on getting theirs and getting out as soon as possible.
The article makes one mistake, they mistake this for “burn out”. Quite the reverse. It is that men are doing this to avoid burning out with nothing. And these men in the article are some of those with the near top jobs. Those that half a century ago would have go the 30 years mortgage, had the wife and kids, and paid into the system for thirty or forty years. Now, the men are not interest in being tied to any debts they see as no win situations. Instead they focus on the ten year plan and getting enough to retire as a bachelor and get out. That means that those men are on funding into the system for decades and this has those at the top worried.
Keep in mind, it is claimed that men make the most money, but it is women that spend the most money. Men focusing on themselves is starting to effect the system by not funding the system.
Here is the article: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-24/human-cost-recovery-were-burning-outThe system has plans to deal with this.
Its the reason banks and govts want to go cashless. They will start charging negative interest rates to people who are savers/don’t spend “enough”. And that’s merely just one negative reason not to go cashless out of many that exist.
Of course it would make it easier to take money from you if they pass man taxes, and also if they ding you for being single. These will most certainly be discussed and implemented eventually by gynosociety. Government will never run out of ways it will permit itself to legally confiscate what it wants from whomever it wants.
Never vote for anyone who wants to go cashless.
Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.
The article makes one mistake, they mistake this for “burn out”. Quite the reverse. It is that men are doing this to avoid burning out with nothing. And these men in the article are some of those with the near top jobs. Those that half a century ago would have go the 30 years mortgage, had the wife and kids, and paid into the system for thirty or forty years. Now, the men are not interest in being tied to any debts they see as no win situations. Instead they focus on the ten year plan and getting enough to retire as a bachelor and get out. That means that those men are on funding into the system for decades and this has those at the top worried.
Welcome to my life. I had my first six figure year at 30. 35 now and will probably break 150k this year. My only debt is about 20k remaining on a mortgage…only reason I haven’t just paid it off is because its such a low rate I make out better investing the money instead. I’ll hit 1/2 million net worth this year. No wife, no kids, no big house, no fancy cars…just slam it all into the markets, watch it grow, and retire to somewhere with a lower cost of living at 40. If I’m making 60k a year in dividends and living somewhere where 30k a year is living like a king while still reinvesting 30k a year…I’m saving more per year still than most working people do, and I’ll go from paying about 40,000 a year in taxes now to paying less than 2,000 a year.
The best part is the way social security works. Its based off an average of 35 years of wages. Its also skewed towards lower incomes, so basically the guy who caps his social security tax every year doesn’t get 2x the social security that someone who makes 1/2 the cap every year does…so for me if I had some small years from 16-18, averaged 40k from 18-30, and capped it from 30-40 I’ll pretty much get the same SS as someone who made 50-60k a year and works until 65. I just punched some numbers into a calculator…if I averaged 60k a year my lifetime I’d earn 41,751 in SS. If I got my average up to 120k a year, I’d get 57,291. I’m pretty much in a spot where I can get 2/3 of the benefits for working 1/2 the years compared to if I wanted to just go for max payout. In other words thanks to social security being heavily biased towards lower income if you pull off a high income for a decade or so additional years worked have extremely diminishing returns.
What are my other options in life? Marry some post wall slut, have a kid(s), she’ll leave me 5-10 years down the road, walk out with a windfall for money that I’d have had with or without her(probably more without her anyhow), and I’ll be stuck paying child support until I’m well into my 50s for kids that some asshole judge will only let me be a part time dad to at best? That sounds pretty f~~~ing horrible.
Other than that I could buy a big house just to have most of it sit empty and pay a bunch of taxes and maintenance costs for something I don’t even need/use. I could buy a fancy car or two…but I’m just not really a car guy. I have zero desire to keep up with the Jones. I like a quiet simple life and I have modest tastes in things.
Sounds like the old timers knew what they were doing when society more lived up to the one man one woman standard and they kept their women in line…a guy like me would have been a cash cow for the government and an over producer for society…instead retiring 25 years early and not buying a big house means I’ll probably avoid paying a million dollars or more in taxes in my life time. If I had a loyal wife and kids, I’d have a vested interest in improving society and leaving society better than it was when I inherited it knowing my kids would be inheriting it next. When I’m handing it off to some single mom’s Chad spawn, I really don’t care if society crumbles. In fact, I’d prefer it did, because the current version of “society” sucks. If I spend from 40-65 living on a foreign beach f~~~ing prostitutes until my dick rots off it will be a life better spent than punching a clock from 40-65 and continuing to pay more than my fair share to support a f~~~ed up society.
Its the reason banks and govts want to go cashless. They will start charging negative interest rates to people who are savers/don’t spend “enough”. And that’s merely just one negative reason not to go cashless out of many that exist.
We already have negative interest rates for people stupid enough to leave large amounts of cash in savings accounts. If you are getting 0.1% interest and we have 2% yearly inflation you are already losing buying power every year even if the number in your account hasn’t actually gotten smaller.
Here in the UK, the health service is experiencing a severe shortage of doctors.
One of the reasons for this is that many are now retiring early because their pension pot is about to exceed the limit and make them liable for supertax.
Not unreasonably, they don’t see why they should keep working only for the government to grab the lions share.
Never vote for anyone who wants to go cashless.
Right.
A cashless society means total control. If they don’t like you, all they have to do is press a button and you become an unperson. This was predicted in the late 1970’s British TV drama series ‘1990’.
The article makes one mistake, they mistake this for “burn out”. Quite the reverse. It is that men are doing this to avoid burning out with nothing.
Perhaps it’s more of an underhanded attempt to deliberately spin MGTOW negatively into the public consciousness, even if not by name. Not all spin is obvious in its intention, rather, being implicit about it sets a smooth backdrop for those who wish to publicly attack MGTOW more aggressively. I would bet this is the case here.
Perhaps it’s more of an underhanded attempt to deliberately spin MGTOW negatively into the public consciousness, even if not by name. Not all spin is obvious in its intention, rather, being implicit about it sets a smooth backdrop for those who wish to publicly attack MGTOW more aggressively. I would bet this is the case here.
FIRE reddit is a great example of how society programs people this way. Any time there is a post that is like 20/30 something male, single, no kids, no wife, plan on staying that way, looking to retire at 40, let the down votes begin and the women and blue pillers start the assault.
I replied something to someone on there recently about you don’t have to be single, just don’t marry or merge finances with anyone. Of course, someone replies “What if you want to have kids?” I replied, “No problem, 40% of kids are born to an unmarried mother and a good portion of those born to married parents end up with divorced parents, you obviously don’t need to be married to have kids.” Nobody could argue the point…just down vote lol.
Its the same…you mention divorce rates are too high to risk half your s~~~…they all chant prenup. Well if a marriage contract is so s~~~ty you need a prenup to mitigate damage…why get married? Nobody has a sensible answer, but they’ll down vote. Its even better when they say “The divorce rates are dropping,” and post some link, that obviously is like the lowest divorce rate they can find. Its like oh…so you are telling me I have a 35% chance of divorce instead of 50%…do you realize that is still abysmal?
They all love to say how divorce won’t happen to them…just don’t get married too young, and marry an educated person and you reduce the risk of divorce. I don’t know how many times I’ve said ok…you want to play the statistics game? If your honey has had more than a couple partners before you, or lived with anyone before you, odds of divorce are much higher. Amazing how many shut the f~~~ up and don’t reply because they have married ex-carousel riders. Don’t marry to young/marry educated = marry her after she has had her c~~~ carousel ride and racked up student debt lol. Every few weeks or so there is a guy on there with a soul crushing post about how a divorce crushed him financially and instantly added 10+ years on to his retirement date.
I just laugh at them…all the down voters and the shamers. The thing is a lot of the posters there seem to be in their 20s or 30s. Marriage is so great…says the brainwashed pussy beggar who just got engaged, or the guy who has been married for 6 months. Problem is they’re too stupid to realize they signed a life long contract. I look around at people I know in their 40s, 50s, and 60s…a huge majority of them have at least one divorce under their belt(which makes me think the odds of divorce is much higher than the commonly quoted 50%), and most of whats left would get out if they could do it without the financial destruction.
My favorite trick to send the blue pillers and the c~~~s into a tail spin is to say “I’m not going to be single forever, I’m just going to wait til post FIRE and find a local woman in a more traditional country where marriage isn’t such a bad deal for men.” Is it even true? Nah…but it certainly is fun saying in a way that won’t get me banned that American women are a waste of time, there is better out there. Its great when an exchange sounds like Them: “You just want someone who will make a sandwich for you.” Me: “Well what do you have to offer other than a college degree I don’t care about?”
It truly is amazing the level to which some people are brainwashed. So many have failed before them, yet 100% of them not only think they won’t fail, but they will actively bash you just for coming to the conclusion that the cost/benefit analysis isn’t in your favor. When someone tells me they are married, I don’t feel a need to attack them for it, yet they feel a need to attack those who won’t get married. I’m pretty sure in the case of FIRE reddit posters, it amounts to deep down inside they know a divorce royally f~~~s up their finances, they can’t do anything to stop it if the wifey wants it, and they’re jealous you don’t have to live with that hanging over your head.
The system has plans to deal with this.
Actually, given the desperate statements from those in power on the matter of lack of marriage and lack of kids, it is likely the system does not have workable plans.
Its the reason banks and govts want to go cashless. They will start charging negative interest rates to people who are savers/don’t spend “enough”. And that’s merely just one negative reason not to go cashless out of many that exist.
That do not matter, because even in a cashless system people have to run that system, and almost all the competent people whom could run such a system are running for the exits.
Of course it would make it easier to take money from you if they pass man taxes, and also if they ding you for being single. These will most certainly be discussed and implemented eventually by gynosociety. Government will never run out of ways it will permit itself to legally confiscate what it wants from whomever it wants.
Let us think about this for a moment. Many men can barely make ends meet being single. Making it a crime or passing a tax only drive more men underground. Government making a crime for the people to be something beyond the people’s control is the quickest way to start a rebellion.
What would be your answer if the government made it a crime for a man to refuse to personally have to be a slave to a post-wall drugged out welfare whore, whom have ten kids from ten different idiots, or face twenty years in prison?
Punishing people for the actions of others drives people to rebellion.
Never vote for anyone who wants to go cashless.
The fun part is the corporations are trying to push cashless ahead of the government and the banks to in an attempt to take control of the money supply from government and the banks. This is making very amusing combinations of allies on the matter on all sides.
You are working under the assumption that the people checking out of the system are not prepare for currency s~~~show. In truth those people invested in guns and ammo for this reason. Such people long for a currency collapse that shuts down the welfare systems and destroys the government pension systems, so that in the large cities at the same time government and law enforcement officers go on strike because their pensions are going, while the welfare whores riot and burn down the cities because their SNAP cards and welfare checks bounced.
… even in a cashless system people have to run that system, and almost all the competent people whom could run such a system are running for the exits.
Ah, but do they? The whole thing will be automated
It will require only a handful of techs and perhaps not even that. I can see a future in which the system is sufficiently intelligent that it can repair and upgrade itself.
I have no doubt that this is under development as we speak. The elite will not allow themselves to be in a position where a few techs can hold THEM to ransom.
What would be your answer if the government made it a crime for a man to refuse to personally have to be a slave to a post-wall drugged out welfare whore, whom have ten kids from ten different idiots, or face twenty years in prison?
We pretty much already have that, every man having a welfare monkey on his back. Somehow, somewhere, you pay tax. Direct ‘man taxes’ have already been proposed.
Punishing people for the actions of others drives people to rebellion.
They know it too – which is why they will legalise all drugs. It’s also why the military and police now accept low quality – often actually criminal – recruits, as they hate the majority and will be politically loyal.
At some point there will blowback, but it will not amount to anything, simply because it was left too late. I’ve met many preppers over the years, and they all say ‘when the day comes’.
Unfortunately, the time is now.
The fun part is the corporations are trying to push cashless ahead of the government and the banks to in an attempt to take control of the money supply from government and the banks.
‘Taking control’ presupposes that they are entirely different entities. In reality, they are all tentacles of the octopus.
Such people long for a currency collapse that shuts down the welfare systems and destroys the government pension systems, so that in the large cities at the same time government and law enforcement officers go on strike because their pensions are going, while the welfare whores riot and burn down the cities because their SNAP cards and welfare checks bounced.
Civil disorder that suits their purpose (problem-reaction-solution), will be allowed. That little which doesn’t will be crushed.
Ah, but do they? The whole thing will be automated
Do you know automated means. If means have something watching to fix when the robots screw up.
We pretty much already have that, every man having a welfare monkey on his back. Somehow, somewhere, you pay tax. Direct ‘man taxes’ have already been proposed.
MGTOW and minimalism cuts that down to pennies on the dollar.
They know it too – which is why they will legalise all drugs. It’s also why the military and police now accept low quality – often actually criminal – recruits, as they hate the majority and will be politically loyal.
Usually, that is when a nation is invaded by a foreign military.
‘Taking control’ presupposes that they are entirely different entities. In reality, they are all tentacles of the octopus.
Actually, it is not in someways. The executives would be able to fully control if they controlled the money. At the moment, control of money is very limited to a select few. This is one of the few leases left on corporations.
Civil disorder that suits their purpose (problem-reaction-solution), will be allowed. That little which doesn’t will be crushed.
It depends on who is doing the civil disorder. If the welfare whores and government officials in the large cities are doing the rioting, those that oppose government outside the cities benefit because such a situation has those in charge cracking down on their own supporters.
This is what the globalists are starting to worry about. The radicalized the SJW and media in the hopes of antagonizing the MAGA supporters. Instead, MAGA supporters are playing the long game and remaining calm while their enemies become more and more rabid until infighting starts among them.
not funding the system.
Ha ha! This makes me happy. But I’m also concerned that the “tax the rich” policy will someday trickle down to the middle-class and people that are comfortably retired. After all, the government must somehow feed the slackers of our society PLUS the foreigners that are oppressed by their incompetent governments and wander across the border.
When I was a teenager, I was excited about getting my first job. I was motivated to be a part of the workforce (even though I kept getting denied for entry-level jobs after filling out lots of job applications) then and many years afterwards. But when I got to my 40s, I started getting tired: mentally and physically. I absolutely HATE my job. I have a measly pension waiting for me when I become 65. I feel like I’ve wasted my life working.
I’m planning to be as independent as I can in the future. I am searching for creative, non-traditional ways to make money, such as: Uber Eats, Amazon Delivery, and Postmates. I’m lucky that I don’t have a high rent situation. I’ll stick with my job until I get some debts paid off, and then I’ll look for another job. If I had a lot of money, I’d be investing in businesses instead of working for businesses. I hate dealing with annoying customers and co-workers.
"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)
Never vote for anyone who wants to go cashless.
Right.
A cashless society means total control. If they don’t like you, all they have to do is press a button and you become an unperson. This was predicted in the late 1970’s British TV drama series ‘1990’.My recent BitChute post with that girl explaining is vivid detail the cashless society described exactly this. Too bad seems like very few watched the video. I would highly recommend everyone watch it. It shows exactly how it’s being rolled out. We should arm ourselves with knowledge.
You are working under the assumption that the people checking out of the system are not prepare for currency s~~~show. In truth those people invested in guns and ammo for this reason. Such people long for a currency collapse that shuts down the welfare systems and destroys the government pension systems, so that in the large cities at the same time government and law enforcement officers go on strike because their pensions are going, while the welfare whores riot and burn down the cities because their SNAP cards and welfare checks bounced.
Lol…you should check out FIRE reddit sometime. Nobody there wants a currency collapse, and nobody there would suggest investing in guns and ammo. Why don’t they want a currency collapse? Well…they have a lot of money. Why don’t they invest in guns and ammo? It doesn’t produce income streams like stock or real estate can.
As far as cashless goes, it is 100% about making every transaction traceable and taxable. We are already like 90% cashless anyhow. I’ve got about 100 bucks in my wallet and another 200 or so in a drawer in my kitchen just in case I’m going out with friends and need some cash to pay my portion of a bill, or I’m going to a yard sale or fair or something where they don’t accept credit cards. If the government wanted to wipe me out they already could. The 300 bucks I have laying around is nothing compared to the hundreds of thousands I’d lose, and I’m not interested in having large amounts of cash on hand where worst case scenario it can be stolen, and best case it generates 0% returns when it could be invested somewhere growing instead. Uncle Leeroy burying jars with 50 dollars each in them in his backyard or hiding your life savings of 3,842 dollars under you mattress is nothing compared to what people have in various types of online accounts and 401ks.
Ha ha! This makes me happy. But I’m also concerned that the “tax the rich” policy will someday trickle down to the middle-class and people that are comfortably retired. After all, the government must somehow feed the slackers of our society PLUS the foreigners that are oppressed by their incompetent governments and wander across the border.
It absolutely will. The income tax was supposed to be temporary…and now we have people arguing 1/3 isn’t enough. I have no doubt a wealth tax would trickle down over time to the point it would take money from those who simply bothered to save for retirement. Most millionaires aren’t people with massive incomes…they’re just older people who consistently invested over a life time and let compounding over time do the heavy lifting.
When I was a teenager, I was excited about getting my first job. I was motivated to be a part of the workforce (even though I kept getting denied for entry-level jobs after filling out lots of job applications) then and many years afterwards. But when I got to my 40s, I started getting tired: mentally and physically. I absolutely HATE my job. I have a measly pension waiting for me when I become 65. I feel like I’ve wasted my life working.
Oh yeah…I remember feeling so rich making like 100 bucks a week at my first job lol. It was like a right of passage, plus it was cool just getting out in the world and meeting new people and older people you otherwise would never get to meet as up until that point in life most of my relationships with people around the same age from school I had grown up with. It was also motivational to do something with your life when you realized your 20 hour a week job supplied you with fun money while the 30 year old doing the same job had to actually live off it.
Over time though, I’ve just grown to despise it. Its not even that I hate my job, I just hate spending so much of my time working while being forced to fork 1/3 over to the government knowing a good chunk of it is going to subsidize people for being lazy or simply making poor life choices. The salt in the wound is that while I pay more in taxes than a lot of people even make, I get to listen to people, generally people who contribute nothing and often times draw more out of the system then they will ever contribute bitch and complain about other people not paying their fair share. Its a pretty sick system when retiring and dropping my tax burden down near 0 so I no longer have to contribute to supporting single moms and druggies will put a bigger smile on my face than buying a new sports car.
Do you know automated means. If means have something watching to fix when the robots screw up.
This is why they are working so hard on AI.
MGTOW and minimalism cuts that down to pennies on the dollar.
Agreed, hence my observation about a universal ‘man tax’.
Usually, that is when a nation is invaded by a foreign military.
Or when a regime wants reliable means to oppress its own people.
Here in the UK, the police are now politically motivated and practically indistinguishable from the neck tattoo trash. The military accepts wimmin, homosexuals – both groups who hate us – and criminals.
The US military is turning into a mercenary force – US citizenship for dubious foreign nationals if they serve. They will turn their guns on ordinary US citizens without hesitation.
At the moment, control of money is very limited to a select few. This is one of the few leases left on corporations.
Banks are corporations.
It depends on who is doing the civil disorder. If the welfare whores and government officials in the large cities are doing the rioting, those that oppose government outside the cities benefit because such a situation has those in charge cracking down on their own supporters.
Welfare trash riots could be either controlled or spontaneous. Those government officials that did join any riots wouldn’t matter.
This is what the globalists are starting to worry about.
They are not infallible, that’s true.
They have been caught with their pants down on a few occasions – here in the UK, the Poll Tax fiasco and the unexpected Brexit result are the best examples.
Both resulted in their puppet leaders having to be binned – leaving them desperately casting around for a replacement – and a serious setback to their timetable.
Instead, MAGA supporters are playing the long game and remaining calm while their enemies become more and more rabid until infighting starts among them.
It would be nice to think that they have enough brains – and the time – for this, but I don’t think they have either. The time to take the long view was decades ago.
I would guess that MAGA supporters will ultimately do nothing. There will undoubtedly be a few flurries here and there (Bundy, for instance), but there won’t be a revolution.
More and more Men are getting theirs and getting out.I read an article today by Zerohedge. The term from the article is “FIRE”, which stands for “Financial Independence Retire Early”. What a wonderful term. A few years ago, I heard terms like this on MGTOW channels. Now, such terms are becoming more comment place.I guess after decades of men being treated like disposable commodities by corporations, government, women, and society as a whole, men got the message that they need to focus solely on getting theirs and getting out as soon as possible.The article makes one mistake, they mistake this for “burn out”. Quite the reverse. It is that men are doing this to avoid burning out with nothing. And these men in the article are some of those with the near top jobs. Those that half a century ago would have go the 30 years mortgage, had the wife and kids, and paid into the system for thirty or forty years. Now, the men are not interest in being tied to any debts they see as no win situations. Instead they focus on the ten year plan and getting enough to retire as a bachelor and get out. That means that those men are on funding into the system for decades and this has those at the top worried.Keep in mind, it is claimed that men make the most money, but it is women that spend the most money. Men focusing on themselves is starting to effect the system by not funding the system.Here is the article: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-24/human-cost-recovery-were-burning-out
The system has plans to deal with this.
Its the reason banks and govts want to go cashless. They will start charging negative interest rates to people who are savers/don’t spend “enough”. And that’s merely just one negative reason not to go cashless out of many that exist.
Of course it would make it easier to take money from you if they pass man taxes, and also if they ding you for being single. These will most certainly be discussed and implemented eventually by gynosociety. Government will never run out of ways it will permit itself to legally confiscate what it wants from whomever it wants.
Never vote for anyone who wants to go cashless.The remedy for that is a retired man to get a boat, leave the country forever, extend middle finger, and tell the rent-seekers to go fuuck themselves.
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
Won’t be a need to be a revolution. Western civilization is going to collapse and take the rest of the world with it. World War III will see heavy use of nuclear weapons and most of humanity will die.
In five or six hundred years, there may be countries again, but at a 18th-century technology level at best. No oil-driven economy, no wind, or solar, or nuclear.
Possibly some coal and some hydroelectric. Use of wood.
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
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