More advice: Successfully Debating Libtards

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

I know I often offer advice on how to argue/debate with libtards and win. Many of you take the position don’t bother—which is fine advice but a little impractical because often the issues effects us whether we like it or not; sometimes you can’t walk away.

As usual the weapon of choice is simple logic, so when you hear:
” AR-15s are a weapon of WAR! and are inappropriate”.

Answer: What does EVERY police officer in this country have in the trunk of his cruiser? Not just an AR 15, but a fully auto capable AR 15 (machine gun)—-who are the police at war with?

OR “The second Amendment is just for hunting”
Answer: There were originally 10 Amendments, and the firearms were in #2, just behind freedom of speech/press. What does that say about the priority here? Hunting was the second most important priority?
How about NO.

So guys just a little more ammo for slapping down libtards. When you use logic the result in the same—the Libtards SCREAM NO NOOOOOO Logic! IT BURNS IT BURNSSSSS.

[Anonymous 7]

PistolPete wrote:

Not just an AR 15, but a fully auto capable AR 15 (machine gun)

Really? Huh, I did not know that.
I thought they had the civilian model.

If you live in the States, protect and exercise you 2A right. Even if you do not have an interest in firearms.

Exercise them all or they will go away. Even the 3rd, that nobody remembers. It is there for a reason as are all of them.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

The Gubbermint should not be in the business of granting rights, they should be in the business of protecting them. The twinkle-toed cuck suckers.

Apologies for the soapbox Pete. Carry on.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22546]

Libtards, like women, do not care or consider arguments based on facts.

Its not a real surprise that most women are liberal in the western world. The overlap between women and liberal is very, very large, high correlation. And its not a surprise therefore libs dont argue with logic but shout mindless slogans, dont care about facts, and base their views and policies and platforms on emotions and feelings. And guilt shame and blame those who arent smart enough to be liberal like them.

Just like women cant empathize that theirs isn’t the universal experience, neither can liberals. They can’t comprehend others not seeing the world as they do. Like 93% of the media voting democrat, they can’t get how others don’t think like them. Further just like women, liberals cannot handle being told no. They riot and attack people. They destroy property. They murder people. They have legal groups and advocacy groups that sue to try to get their way if they cannot do so through voting. Third they adopt the socialist tactics of blaming the other side for the very things they are doing. Again just like women do.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22546]

Anonymous wrote:

PistolPete wrote:

Not just an AR 15, but a fully auto capable AR 15 (machine gun)

Really? Huh, I did not know that.
I thought they had the civilian model.

If you live in the States, protect and exercise you 2A right. Even if you do not have an interest in firearms.

Exercise them all or they will go away. Even the 3rd, that nobody remembers. It is there for a reason as are all of them.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

The Gubbermint should not be in the business of granting rights, they should be in the business of protecting them. The twinkle-toed cuck suckers.

Apologies for the soapbox Pete. Carry on.

Actually the constitution if you read it, limits fedgov powers by enumerating what rights fedgov has, and reserves all others unenumerated to the people and the states.

The founders didnt ever set it up so that govt granted rights, but instead was designed to protect the God given rights people inherently had because God gave them those rights.

People here may ding God and think people of faith are a hindrance or burden, but if it were not for them we’d be like every other country on earth where the government is god and is the granter of rights. Our highest document and courts know by the language exactly where the framers were coming from and we didn’t want an all powerful monarch determining what freedoms we could or couldn’t have based upon his mere whim and feelings any particular day or instance.

And if you say things don’t work that way that much anymore, ask if people and govt folks are god fearing, or god hating. Has govt and people turned more away from God, or are we getting closer to God? Can’t blame the system, the founders knew and said it would not work as well if people were not moral and able to control themselves.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

Secret Agent makes a good point and here is the liberal argument: “You don’t NEED this kind of gun”, or mag with 30 round cap etc.

Please remind your neighborhood libtard it is the BILL OF RIGHTS, not the bill of NEEDS.

[Anonymous 7]

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

Actually the constitution if you read it, limits fedgov powers by enumerating what rights fedgov has, and reserves all others unenumerated to the people and the states.

The founders didnt ever set it up so that govt granted rights, but instead was designed to protect the God given rights people inherently had because God gave them those rights.

Exactly my point. The Constitution was written to prevent the Gov from trampling rights, not ‘enabling’ them or removing them.

Rights come from our/your Creator. Not the f~~~-wits in Washington D.C.

Sorry bros from the U.K. and cousins from the land down under.

[Anonymous 7]

PistolPete wrote:

Please remind your neighborhood libtard it is the BILL OF RIGHTS, not the bill of NEEDS.

And Pete just won the internet. BINGO!

[Anonymous 1]

Another chant:
“Okay, but we should require universal registration of all guns! That’s not taking them away! That doesn’t go against the 2nd Amendment!”

Let’s ponder all the things that are registered with the local, state, or federal government.
House? Property? Car? Boat? Full Auto Weapon? YOU?
How many of those registered items are TAXED?
Mandatory Gun Registration might become:
Year 1=free. Year 2=$50. Year 5=$100.

Some jackwagon hacks the database (like that’s never happened to a gov’t database). Now the thugs know who to rob (to get valuable weapons) or who NOT to rob (so as to avoid armed response). Sell the list on the not-so-dark web.

I don’t think I’m a conspiracy theory loon.

[Anonymous 42]

I’m pretty good at arguing, but not against willing and complacent ignorance, it’s like arguing with a brick. Those types I just bury them in the facts and walk away.

My rights between myself and my creator are not up for debate, no law passed in this regard do I recognize or obey.

We can all see just how much the courts have lost all credibility thanks to the laws of Super State!

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

The only way to deal with an irrational person who believes in imposing their unjust will on you by force, is to destroy them. Doesn’t have to be with a gun. If they hate guns so much, could oblige them by using a baseball bat.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[Anonymous 7]

Anonymous wrote:

Some jackwagon hacks the database (like that’s never happened to a gov’t database). Now the thugs know who to rob (to get valuable weapons) or who NOT to rob (so as to avoid armed response). Sell the list on the not-so-dark web.

You are 100% right.

The first step that the most evil leaders the world has ever known took, was to catalog who was armed. Their next step was to remedy that.

Meh, in the wake of Vegas the mouth breathers want to ban ‘bump-stocks’.

Yes, bump-stocks allow you to, kinda simulate automatic fire.
Here is what they aren’t telling you:
1. You can achieve the same affect as a bump-stock using a belt loop. Don’t believe me? Youtube bitch.
2. If the Vegas shooter had not used a bump-stock the butchers bill would have been much higher. Let me explain. Auto or simulated auto fire is inaccurate. Sure you spray lots of rounds but there is little to no control. In other words, you miss, a lot. If the Vegas shooter would have picked his targets and used semi-fire, he potentially would have killed many more people.

Don’t let dickheads in Washington fool you. Banning what they publicly want to ban won’t change a thing.

Ultimately they want to ban all private firearm ownership.
Ask yourself why?
For the good of all? If you believe this you should f~~~ yourself with a red hot piece of rebar.
No, it is about control. Control of you.

[HermitParticipant 1121]

Good points. I have grown to hate libtards. I simply stopped talking to them. They don’t hear a word you say and I’ve already heard everything they have to say. I am done talking.

I don't hate women. I just feel better when they're not around.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22546]

Ranger One wrote:

The only way to deal with an irrational person who believes in imposing their unjust will on you by force, is to destroy them. Doesn’t have to be with a gun. If they hate guns so much, could oblige them by using a baseball bat.

Ultimately that is what it will boil down to. In the meantime, try hard to defend your beliefs without physical force, and arm up.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[Anonymous 54]

I cant debate worth a s~~~.( big suprise! Haha)
I just say I am pro 2nd ammendment for the reason our ForeFathers intended.( Patriarcy!)
Its about the balance of power.
The Bill was writen with the intent of the Citezens being armed on an Eqaul footing as a potentaly tiranical govt.

And I dont care what you think about it.

Then my Family doesnt talk to me for about 6 months…hahah

[Anonymous 42]

Ranger One wrote:

If they hate guns so much, could oblige them by using a baseball bat.

Here, use mine! It’s MODIFIED!

[xanthineParticipant 4903]

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

Libtards, like women, do not care or consider arguments based on facts.

Its not a real surprise that most women are liberal in the western world. The overlap between women and liberal is very, very large, high correlation. And its not a surprise therefore libs dont argue with logic but shout mindless slogans, dont care about facts, and base their views and policies and platforms on emotions and feelings. And guilt shame and blame those who arent smart enough to be liberal like them.

Just like women cant empathize that theirs isn’t the universal experience, neither can liberals. They can’t comprehend others not seeing the world as they do. Like 93% of the media voting democrat, they can’t get how others don’t think like them. Further just like women, liberals cannot handle being told no. They riot and attack people. They destroy property. They murder people. They have legal groups and advocacy groups that sue to try to get their way if they cannot do so through voting. Third they adopt the socialist tactics of blaming the other side for the very things they are doing. Again just like women do.

Very well said, Agent. I agree 110% with everything you said.

[Anonymous 1]

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[GrumpyParticipant]

An unarmed populace, is a populace that can be controlled and liquidated at leisure.
Aside from firearms, whenever a government of any type, regardless of the era in human history banned/restricted weapons of any type the outcome has always been the same.
Populations were enslaved and eradicated because they had no “easy” way to defend themselves from the tyranny of the ruling classes and/or criminals.
Debating libtards is mostly trying to get them to understand that the “desires” that they wish to impose on others, also affect them as well.

A person who is unwilling or unable to protect themselves becomes victim #1 on the list of those who have ill intent.

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[MoreSkyParticipant 4865]

Being a Brit, the US Bill of Rights is not something I know off the top of my head so, after reading PistolPete’s thread, here for myself and other non-US people, is a list of the first 10 amendments:

First Amendment

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petitition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Second Amendment

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Third Amendment

No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner; nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

Fourth Amendment

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Fifth Amendment

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself; nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation.

Sixth Amendment

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed; which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor; and to have the assistance of counsel for his defence.

Seventh Amendment

In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury shall be otherwise reexamined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of common law.

Eighth Amendment

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Ninth Amendment

The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Tenth Amendment

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

"...reinvent your life because you must; it is your life and its history and the present belong only to you.” It is Your Life, Charles Bukowski.

[MoreSkyParticipant 4865]

As a follow up question regarding the Bill of Rights –

The second amendment states “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State…”. How is the “well regulated militia” implemented? Is this the National Guard or are there local militia groups or is it stating the right to form militia?

"...reinvent your life because you must; it is your life and its history and the present belong only to you.” It is Your Life, Charles Bukowski.

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