More adult Americans live with their parents and grandparents

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  • #280594
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    Shovelheadrider
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    http://www.market~~~ch.com/story/more-adult-americans-live-with-their-parents-and-grandparents-2016-08-11
    Women have these family hide out ;work release Salvation Army Etc,but as soon as she moves in here they come.The need a car,phone but have no job.Guess who is MOFO if not going along.
    Just got back from $ General where I ran into old friend.His common law wife moved a bunch of her kids in. I would tell you how lazy fat , ugly ,unwed mothers (3 generations) of H.S. dropout that quit school and started f~~~ing the first one that had a bottle of wine to split with her. Well he just got back from putting common law on deed with sole survivor ship.I asked him if he has a food tester.He did not go to Ivy League.He went to U.S Naval Academe his class with a well know Fox military expert who was in Iran/Contra .This is another example well educated ,National Merritt Scholar ship.But again just like Ivy league John McClain got in with family ties.Just say no

    #280601
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    Oftentimes unwed unpartnered laydeez with extended families consisting of siblings, parents etc. are more dangerous than simple single moms.
    They are merely an advanced wealth extraction trap wherein the inlaws are as motivated as she is, to “take you down”.
    Treat these with caution, especially when it’s an intact not well off financially extended family or if it’s any form of a collection of family fractured by females, divorces etc.
    It can be difficult as you will simultaneously be hit with the most blesssed sides of their personalities. Time is on your side as you will first see wisps and then all out explosions of hypocracy.

    "It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

    #281355
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    Rennie
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    That’s what happens when idiots ruined the economy and left young folk with the inability to make enough money to afford their own place.

    I understand that it used to be was that the average job was atleast enough to cover the cost of rent. Now rent prices are skyhigh. Average minimum: $1000 a month. Not affordable on minimum wage.

    #281364
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    That’s what happens when idiots ruined the economy and left young folk with the inability to make enough money to afford their own place.

    Those young folk aren’t exactly blame free either. A hell of a lot of them like to vote for tax and spend politicians rather than low tax, small government types. Let’s just say if I were to rent my condo out, for the going market value here, 20% of the rent would go towards property taxes, and about 33% of what I made in profit would go towards federal and state income taxes.

    Funny how they’ll bitch about greedy land lords but if they were to cut me an 800 dollar rent check, all said and done after write offs about 300 of it would be going to the government. The portion of it going into government coffers would be larger than the portion going into my pocket.

    #281374
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    Well yes, the US economy has been destroyed.

    But as I’ve advised others on here before, it’s better to live in multi-generational families anyway, rather than being indoctrinated by the Cultural Marxists with no buffer. It is parents’ and grandparents’ duty to guide the young, and this is a job that the State will never care to do because they don’t care about the young, or anyone really.

    I left home at 18. It was a different time so I didn’t necessarily have a choice. I also grew up in a poor family.

    Of course the indoctrination was the same back then: men have to leave and have their own things or they are losers, women can do whatever they want and it’s fine, they are praised for it.

    What I eventually learned, as I worked my way up and wound up working with a lot of wealthy people, is that the upper classes all seemingly have the multi-generational thing going, and also set their kids up for success. They pay for everything and guide them through life. This is a ridiculous, tremendous, near insurmountable advantage. I’ve also noticed Asians do the same, and no surprise, upper class whites (and jews, who mostly are white) and Asians in general have the highest incomes and net worths in America. They understand generational wealth. Others do not.

    I will likely never have children, but if I did? I sure as hell would set them up to succeed, I’d make sure I was investing in them and I’d constantly tell them they are better than everyone else and deserve to be above everyone else. They would live with me and be guided and helped, and kept away from the bad influences of poverty, drugs, alcohol and the masses.

    Upper class people also generally have less sexual partners–many have zero before marriage, and far lower divorce rates. Many still practice the man as head of household, with women being obedient, even getting “allowances” or bonuses for good behavior. If you have ever been around these circles, you know how it works, a “good wife bonus” they call it at times.

    I think part of the reason the elites pushed Cultural Marxism was because in terms of behavior, there was not much class distinction a long time ago. Everyone was behaving the same, with ideals and values. They couldn’t stand that, and now there is an unmistakable class distinction. The behaviors are different.

    I am now generally considered a “gentleman” and all those other terms to denote someone of better breeding and behavior. But as I wrote, I grew up poor, I most certainly wasn’t born into money. It’s just the behaviors I kept picking up over time, the etiquette, etc. It was a difficult transition for me. I suspect it’s even harder now, perhaps impossible.

    If you ever read certain things, there are indications it was by design too. But that’s another topic.

    #281382
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    Rennie
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    What I eventually learned, as I worked my way up and wound up working with a lot of wealthy people, is that the upper classes all seemingly have the multi-generational thing going, and also set their kids up for success. They pay for everything and guide them through life. This is a ridiculous, tremendous, near insurmountable advantage.

    I get that sense too. That the wealthy have rigged the middle class to fail and themselves to succeed. A possible example of this is: they make a mess of the public school system, while their kids go to private school and come out far better for it.

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    Anonymous
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    I have to give you a +1 Phoenix, I see it the same way.

    MGTOW have the only kingdom left in all the rubble of cultural Marxism, we have the kingdom of self ownership, and the only adversary to becoming property of the state.

    #281394
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    Beer
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    What I eventually learned, as I worked my way up and wound up working with a lot of wealthy people, is that the upper classes all seemingly have the multi-generational thing going, and also set their kids up for success. They pay for everything and guide them through life.

    I’d have to disagree. Of the wealthier families in my town, none of their offspring turned out to be wildly successful even though they were the ones that had the nicest car in high school, did lot’s of traveling, never had to work summer jobs or while classes were in session unless they felt like it, went to to the fancier college, etc, all paid for by mom and dad, none of the kids turned out any more successful than those who had parent’s like mine that pretty much said when I was 16 gravy train is over…you’ll have food and a roof here, anything else you want you can work for. In fact, a lot of them just turned into spoiled losers because when they graduated college and mommy and daddy finally said ok, now go get a job, they didn’t have the work ethic or level of responsibility to do well.

    Maybe your talking about those born into massive, massive amounts of money…like the .001%ers, but even still, there are plenty of these types who grow up with no drive or ambition to do anything other than live off familial wealth. Sure they have an advantage they’ll never have to work but I wouldn’t really consider them successful by any measure…they just hit the birth lottery by being born into a fortune.

    Upper class people also generally have less sexual partners–many have zero before marriage, and far lower divorce rates.

    I’d have to disagree here as well. Well off men can get the most pussy and have the hottest women interested, because, they have money. Hot women tend to ride the carousel the most because they have the easiest time doing it. Take a well off man with a hot wife and I highly doubt either was a virgin at marriage these days, let alone have less sexual partners than average. Maybe 50+ years ago a man from a well off family could have went to college and had some fun for a few years then settled down with a respectable virgin, but not these days lol.

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    Clearly things have gone INSANE. My parents purchased a family house 25 years ago, and in their area, the home has more than trippled in market value, from the price they purchased it for. The wages however, have NOT trippled. If my parents had been born 25 years later they would be living in a appartment and never own their own property. This issue is not getting any better, every few years the landlords come up with an excuse to hike up the rent another 75 bucks where i live.

    I know things weren’t exactly “easy” back then either. But i know that my father worked an average blue collar job and was able to buy his own 5 bedroom house. This is unthinkable your young men today. Most guys my age are working 12-16 hours a day just to be able to make basic payments on everything & don’t have much to show for it.

    #281446
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    Many Asian families encourage their children to remain in the home until they are married. The reason for that is to save and have a big safety net. The majority of the parents are not even expecting much in return at all from my experience. They all want to set their children up for the future. I try not to mention the fact I chose to live at home and not on my own. You will get people who will try to shame you. I have even seen it here in this forum. I have a family friend that does the exact same thing and by 27 he was worth 500,000. We Asian tend to stick together.

    What I eventually learned, as I worked my way up and wound up working with a lot of wealthy people, is that the upper classes all seemingly have the multi-generational thing going, and also set their kids up for success. They pay for everything and guide them through life. This is a ridiculous, tremendous, near insurmountable advantage. I’ve also noticed Asians do the same, and no surprise, upper class whites (and jews, who mostly are white) and Asians in general have the highest incomes and net worths in America. They understand generational wealth. Others do not.

    Yes wise for sure. If you’re a young man trying to get out in a hurry, you just cross your fingers and pray for two things. (1) That you don’t get sick or injured & (2) That someone takes notice of your willingness to work your ass off & offers you a better position. Unfortunately both these prayers seem to go unheard for a lot of guys.

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    That someone takes notice of your willingness to work your ass off & offers you a better position.

    Many times these plow horses get overloaded with work to the point of distress and left to rot while the brownnosers get the better positions.

    Phoenix is right about upper class families taking a huge interest in the betterment of their children. My clients are wealthy and do this to a tee. My mom came from a wealthy family whose wealth got squandered by her mother after marrying a 1930s Chad after my grandfather died. Most woman are stupid when it comes to finances with a few exceptions. My mom taught me about staying out of debt, saving, and investing. When I lost my high paying job, I was able to go off on my own like a good MGHOW and not depend on the corporate control system.

    They say it’s a matter of time preferences. Poor people tend to want it all now while wealthier people are savvier.

    #281482
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    Most guys my age are working 12-16 hours a day just to be able to make basic payments on everything & don’t have much to show for it.

    That’s not your fault, it’s the broken watered down money haunting the next generation, they spend more than they tax as the people are at the extreme limit of being swindled through the back door of taxation via money printing, they’re stealing what you’ll make before you have the opportunity to make it. Generational theft, leaves the following generations with debt they had no hand in creating. It can only go on for so long, I believe we’re seeing the s~~~ hit the fan and everyone is gonna get covered in s~~~! Triple digit inflation? Extreme market fluctuation? Government bubbles popping left and right? Sound familiar? Nothing stable and sound anymore, the ship is listing and taking on too much water, the bilge pumps (taxpayers) are not able to pump out the red ink faster than it pours in. It all spells a sinking ship. A third world nation just like Venezuela, they were the pride of South America only a couple decades ago, now they rank last in the world, even lower than North Korea.
    Management was everything, Marxists don’t manage a damn thing!
    They only manipulate the destruction in ways to secure their absolute power that has corrupted absolutely!

    As Venezuela goes so goes the united states under Marxism.

    One sure fire sign of a nation in distress is when it’s citizens start stealing live copper wire, and pluming from boarded up homes, sound familiar?

    #281486
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    Very true @ MGTOW. It also doesn’t help that us men are forced to pay into the system that gives single mothers every resource in the world. So they can kick back, post dumb s~~~ on twitter all day and night & have all their expenses taken care of by the state & by the fathers they left.

    #281490
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    So they can kick back, post dumb s~~~ on twitter all day and night & have all their expenses taken care of by the state & by the fathers they left.

    Yes agreed, but MGTOW break that cycle by preserving our sovereignty above all else. It’s been a game of cat and mouse as men learn to walk away. The women keep changing their tactics as they continue to assassinate men on all fonts.

    It leads to one of two choices for a man, either live free or die, either choice annihilates their monopoly and returns men to some kind of a resemblance to a happy life not wasted in gynocentric misery.

    I’m playing for keeps while they still think its a game.

    MGTOW; CHECK MATE!

    #281492
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    So they can kick back, post dumb s~~~ on twitter all day and night & have all their expenses taken care of by the state & by the fathers they left.

    Yes agreed, but MGTOW break that cycle by preserving our sovereignty above all else. It’s been a game of cat and mouse as men learn to walk away. The women keep changing their tactics as they continue to men on all fonts.

    It leads to one of two choices for a man, either live free or die, either choice annihilates their monopoly and returns men to some kind of a resemblance to a happy life not wasted in gynocentric misery.

    I’m playing for keeps while they still think its a game.

    MGTOW; CHECK MATE!

    Same here. Let them think we are a tiny corner in the shadows of the internet. One day we willllll resemble herbivores in Japan. There will be slight differences but you catch the drift of what i’m saying. 🙂

    #281650
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    Generational theft, leaves the following generations with debt they had no hand in creating.

    It absolutely blows my mind how a lot of our government programs work. Even worse than the debt is the unfunded liabilities…trillions of dollars worth of pensions, healthcare, and social security that previous generations have promised themselves while they failed to fund it properly and/or manage it properly…now they want my generation to pick up the tab.

    The sad thing about it is how stupid my generation is…they’ll all run out and vote for some chump like Bernie Sanders. The government has forced trillions of dollars worth of debt upon us…let’s all run out and vote for big government candidates to make things better! People are so dumb its like the plan is to kick the can down the road and hope the system doesn’t implode before they get their share. My plan is just to get the f~~~ out and when it implodes be laughing at all the good little socialists with their hands out waiting for government freebies that aren’t coming, while I’m relaxing on a beach in South America or Asia.

    #281657
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    People are so dumb its like the plan is to kick the can down the road and hope the system doesn’t implode before they get their share.

    You can’t kick a can that’s been crushed flat by a train or kick it any further as the road has already come to an end.
    We’re coming to the cliff part when everyone screams as the train goes off the demolished trestle of trust and truth.

    Good night gentlemen, I have to get up in the morning and spend all day sweating my nuts off and getting nothing done. Fkn heat wave!

    #281722
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    Houses are f~~~ing expensive nuff said.

    A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

    #281732
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    OldBill
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    Multi-generational living used to be the norm, and not just because farms required lots of stoop labor. You lived with your parents, siblings, grands, plus your parents’ unmarried siblings because housing – both houses and apartments – was expensive before the post-WW2 boom era.

    You moved when you and your spouse could afford your own place or the arrival of children required more room and even then there would be a few relatives in tow.

    Such living arrangements used to teach the younger members how to live, work, and behave. Such living arrangements used to teach social functionality.

    Now, such living arrangements teach nothing but social dysfunction.

    More adults are living with parents and grand these days because, just as before the post-WW2 boom, more adults are relatively poor.

    Further muddling the situation, more adults today are relatively poor because they have no financial sense. They continually confuse their needs with their wants. You’ll see a young adult who “cannot” afford their own apartment with unnecessarily large cell plans and car payments plus any number of luxury items. He’ll have thousands in gaming systems and she’ll have thousands in shoes, but they’re too “poor” to live as singles and they’re too “spoiled” to consider living with others their age.

    Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

    #281862
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    Such living arrangements used to teach the younger members how to live, work, and behave. Such living arrangements used to teach social functionality.

    Now, such living arrangements teach nothing but social dysfunction.

    This ^. I use to believe people living together in an “inter generational sense” COULD be a good thing….but in today’s culture where people literally have little purpose/place/work all it seems to do is breed in fighting whether from my own personal experience or from the people I know.

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