Morality

[Darth TyrannusParticipant 349]

Since these last few years visiting numerous websites ranging from Incels, Mainstream sites, alternative websites, and numerous others…
I have things on my mind maybe others can answer. Have you ever felt as if you don’t belong on this world? I always contemplate that question with my own limited potential and seeing things for what they are. To me the corruption we see on every level isn’t just women but it’s the mindset of a ruling class those who use women as weapons against men and also use various levels of rules, regulations, special interests, and so on to disempower men. I now believe women have been deluded into seeing men as oppressors when every group has been oppressed at least…
It’s not rich versus poor but authoritarianism versus individualism.

[Sky-OParticipant 18951]

The corruption that you state exists on every level is necessary in order to bring out the good in every man that is able to fight that corruption.

Whether or not mankind as a whole, fights the corruption (which is rooted in narcissism) will depend on how much good men value their own lives.

In order for evil to exist, unobstructed, it is only necessary that forces of good standing by and do nothing.

[Branched offParticipant 11006]

Interesting topic. Its a very wide one though, making it hard to answer.

Morality tends to be what the majority say it is. The minorities feel left out.

The left got control of education and educational establishments and have driven home their take on morality to the point where they now have supremacy and can non platform those that they disagree with.

We have indeed seen the liberals becoming the moral establishment. The counter culture won the battle of cultures. After they won there was for a brief moment, freedom of thought. Now the liberals are the entrenched establishment and they are cracking down on all thought that does not fit their requirements. In truth they are no longer liberal, they are just left wing. They are anything but liberal in their views on free thought, free speech and freedom of action.

All establishments that do not have a powerful and active opposition become corrupt. Its not so much power that corrupts as the lack of opposition to someone’s power.

Its not so much that we don’t belong in this world, the market is just against our sex and against freedom.

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Forget about masculine, female, gay, black, christian, republican, liberal, rich, white, blue pill etc… this is about you understanding what you are (a human animal) and learning to maximize your inner peace/potential. That is different for each man respectively and no one else is responsible for you reaching self-actualization. Only You can figure it out for yourself. The rest of the circus going on in the world is noise, what are YOU feeling and how can you stay afloat?

[Gravel PitParticipant]

You’re not your job, yer not how much money you have in the bank, you’re not the contents of your wallet, you’re not your f~~~ing Khakis. (You’re not the Church you attend or the party-ballot you submit)

things you own, end up owning you

[Joey AlfioParticipant]

Darth Tyrannus wrote:

Have you ever felt as if you don’t belong on this world?

I felt that about the era but of the world? Never think like that. Your biology and who you are is as natural as it gets brother. Even if you feel like you don’t belong you were birthed on this planet and you will die on it too. You are simply a product of your environment — you’re not to blame for any of this nor are you responsible to fix it because this rat race we’re all in was never designed to be fixed. On this world either you enter the race or back away from it. Now it can be rigged but fixed? I don’t think so.

Again, all the f~~~ery in this world has nothing to do with you and should be of no concern to you any longer. You took the red pill because you were going in circles with no results, so now you can go your own f~~~ing way on a path however you see fit. You’re not in a race anymore so try to envision it the way you do when going out for long walks, hiking, etc. Try to test yourself now and see what you need to improve in your life or address and so forth.

Darth Tyrannus wrote:

I always contemplate that question with my own limited potential and seeing things for what they are.

It’s quite normal to feel this way especially if you’ve broken away from the blue pill programming, but take it as a gift being able to see the bigger picture of things. When you, and everyone of us here, was blue pilled you saw things from a narrow and small lens and that opened up doors to all sorts of brainwashing, deceit, lies, etc. I’m not saying I’m the happiest person alive now that I’m red pilled but when I was blue pilled you should have seen how f~~~ing miserable and hopeless I was. I consider myself blessed that I was able to break free even if reality turned out to be a big disappointment at least I don’t have to live a lie for the rest of my life.

I see that you’re a critical thinker and obviously since you are MGTOW you have higher than average IQ so to truly achieve mental and physical peace you need to start veering that energy into creative/scientific subjects otherwise your active mind will leave the gates right open to the past, how f~~~ed up the world is, personal issues, etc. I believe Schopenhauer emphasized the importance of this and it works beautifully. Try even programming it’s been shown to improve memory among other useful things.

What you experienced in your blue pill days should be a closed chapter in your life by now. There’s no looking back anymore because all your’re going to feel is more contempt and pity.

Darth Tyrannus wrote:

It’s not rich versus poor but authoritarianism versus individualism

To be frank, I don’t think individualism ever existed. We’re still too sheep like and the herd instinct is strong in our programming to let go anytime soon. Maybe with genetic engineering to achieve high IQ and advanced AI we can part ways and truly become independent without big brother looking out for us but I can assure you that talk of men being their own men was never the case, ever.

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[Gravel PitParticipant]

Joey Alfio wrote:

authoritarianism versus individualism

(Joey quoted too) ..I don’t think individualism ever existed. …. herd instinct is strong in our programming

Freenil rant* TLDR

The self doesn’t exist. The part of your mind where your conscious voice randomly says/thinks s~~~ is a delusion. Your identification as you, the part you think has a unique identity. That is an illusion.

Our programming (I like that Joey used that word) is Biologically Determined.

It’s all a causal, preordained domino drop. When it comes to self-agency, we’re no more free of autonomy than wildebeest on a neolithic Savannah, destined to chew grass, s~~~ and die… Indeed, our experience cognitively is vastly richer than a dog, but we’re granted no more agency than that of a house fly. Whether you think it’s “God’s Will” that runs the Iron Physcial Laws or whether you think its just inanimate forces rippling in robotic unison…we do not orchestrate biological matter. Your intense feeling that you author your actions IS an illusion.

BUT nevermind causality or freenil because IT’s NEW TO YOU every single moment of your life. It doesn’t matter that a big enough computer could accurately predict where you will be 20 years from now and what shirt you will be wearing. We have a conscious for a reason! We evolved it and the ability to ‘deliberate’ because its a tool that helped us survive. It has much to do with fear and preservation of the flesh. The ability for an animal to have foresight and cognition to reflect on circumstances and survive the brutality of existence, another trick of the trade (or perhaps you think God gave you freewill…same difference because either God did it, or the universe did…but YOU didn’t).

Sorry I trailed off. The real reason I came back is to assure you of one thing. You will not find the meaning of life in the bottom of a beer bottle. The sweet amber liquid is fun for awhile but it’s ultimately an abyss of suffering. (If you can enjoy it responsibly GREAT! This message is not for you). But for the real druggies and drunks among us, consider permanent sobriety. If you require prescrip drugs, that’s between you and a doctor. Take it from someone who lived the drug/drunk life and the sober life too. If you can somehow turn up sober, and manage to live sober, the rewards are ENDLESS and beyond description.

Ill probably catch some s~~~ from the “highly-functional” users here. I love those guys too and I hope they dont cut their lives short unnecessarily just to have partied it up… I loved Christopher Hitchens, a true Witty Genius who never gave up whiskey and smoking. He paid the f~~~ing price gladly for it too, dying painfully of cancer at 62. He could have lived another 20 years if he had quit dicking with that s~~~.

[Joey AlfioParticipant]

I agree with everything you just said GP and considering how slow our evolution has been we have a long ways to go until we can truly experience ‘freewill’. I mean for f~~~ sakes look how things are becoming even more centralized despite having an intellectual/technological edge over our predecessors we still have not come close to self-sufficiency nor have we come close to limiting the powers of the government. The Founding Fathers ideally wanted that to happen but as you said biologically we are cattle content even with s~~~ty leftovers so as long as there’s some protection or watchful eye over us.

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[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

I can agree that the world is pretty screwed up. I figured that out not so long after I arrived here in it, and nothing I’ve seen since my arrival has changed my mind much. But what has changed is the way I perceive myself in a screwed up world. I also once thought I didn’t belong in it. I thought that because I was trying to fix it, or I was trying to create a family within it that was not so screwed up (fix a little bit of it). I wasn’t willing to join it and just accept that I was going to be screwed up too. So I felt like I didn’t fit into it.

But with age, my perspective changed (I’m in my 50’s now). It is not my job to fix it. I did not create it, and I did not screw it up. I also do not own or control it, so I am not responsible for it. As I’ve aged, I’ve realized that I’m just passing through. I’m not the most religious person in the world, but I’m willing to believe that there is a creator of all this, if for no other reason than that I don’t have a better explanation for how it all came to be here.

If I ever meet my creator, and I am asked why I made the decisions I made, my response will be that I didn’t create the world, and I didn’t screw it up. I didn’t even choose to be placed in it. I just passed through it. When I saw how screwed up it was, I tried first to keep it from screwing me up. Once I had distanced myself from all the f~~~ery enough to keep myself from becoming part of the problem, I then tried to make some small positive impact wherever I saw the opportunity. That’s all I’m capable of, and so that’s all I’ll take responsibility for. If I ever have to explain how I lived my life, I’m comfortable with this explanation.

While it’s true that I didn’t fix the whole thing, I am only one guy. And the whole thing was not all my problem to fix. I saved myself, I made my small positive ding in the universe where I could, and then I moved on.

It would have been nice to have been in a world where I felt that I fit in better than I do in this one. But in this world, that would have meant that I was pretty screwed up too.

At the end of my life, when I look back on it, I’d rather be the lone guy who didn’t accept a corrupt mindset just to fit into a corrupt world… than to look back on a corrupt existence I chose just so I could fit in with a world I already knew was corrupt. The first option is easier to defend, easier to look at myself in a mirror, and easier to sleep at night.

The morality of the world may be screwed up, and you may not fit into it so well because your morals are not. But the world’s morality is not your problem to fix, and you have neither the need nor obligation to fit into the corrupt mindset that it has become.

‘Just my opinion… if you don’t agree, you get a full refund… 😉

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Whether it’s legislation and judicial enforcement on tomatoes in fairtrade markets… or legislation and judicial enforcement on sexual acts and the ‘right’ to abort… the one ingredient common across the board is Morality

Morality is supposed to inform the parameters of law

The problems abound when morality is defined outside of natural systems, skewing into the “super”natural…
For example: A question like gay marriage; yay or nay? suddenly becomes less about the sociological consequences demonstrated in biology, and more about ‘metaphysical guarantees of eternal damnation.’ You have a better chance of defeating Gay Marriage by demonstrating it’s negative social effects on youth, rather than by arguing that God condemns it.

So people can argue that religious morality is sorely needed or absent… yet I just showed how in a court of law where government is built… that it has failed us. Religious Morality is not the last word on morality.

Morality is a discourse where progress has been stifled since antiquity. All other human discourses have flourished and progressed (agriculture, medicine, industry, geographical exploration, economics etc…). But our studies into the most important field remain grid-locked in superstitious timidity.

We will rid ourselves of the confines of religious morality or we will stumble ever more painfully forward into modernity. You can see how painful it’s getting to ignore this 2000 year old oversight…

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

I agree with many things said already, but i must add i used to think that i dont belong to this insane and corrupt world, but (insert ass picture, thabk you popp) now i like it, i enjoy this rotten world, my only regret is im just a regular guy, if i could make it worst i wold.

I get a hard on when i read about france, Venezuela, i laughed a lot when i saw the plastic contaminated sea in dominican republic, i now believe im here to contaminate, corrupt, kill and destroy eveeything i can, there is no hate, i just do my job, like a woodchipper mowing down a tree.

This is beautifull, i have seen clean rivers, green mountains, i enjoy nature and beauty in the same mesure i enjoy caos, death and destruction, i just dont care anymore.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Wanna go for a swim at the atlantic sea?

Be my guess.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[Joey AlfioParticipant]

Carnage wrote:

i now believe im here to contaminate, corrupt, kill and destroy eveeything i can, there is no hate, i just do my job, like a woodchipper mowing down a tree.

Maybe we truly were put here to do such things. Every other life form does it including microscopic cells I don’t see how we’re any different. God damned us anyway when that dumb bitch Eve bit the fruit so f~~~ it I now consider myself a pupil of Carnage.

BURN MOTHERF~~~ERS!!!!!

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[AwakenedParticipant 35209]

I have feel like a stranger/immigrant living in a very strange land….The home I knew only exists in old memories, movies and music.

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[bladeParticipant]

Sky-O wrote:

In order for evil to exist, unobstructed, it is only necessary that forces of good standing by and do nothing.

That stood out . People are me me me and not we . Communities broken . Families broken . Now countries broken .

They want everyone devide the people .

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

I have no use for the morality of people that would let new born babies suffocate to death. There are lines I will not cross.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

The scum that propagate vileness and degeneracy will reap their rewards when a civil war breaks out. House-to-house death squads until there are none left, will be their reward. Retroactive abortions for all of the useless degenerates. No mercy, no quarter given. Rwanda x 50.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[ZoidbergParticipant 965]

Darth Tyrannus wrote:

Have you ever felt as if you don’t belong on this world?

Definitely. It is part of the reason why I don’t want kids. Not to start arguments, but the way I see it (without the rose-colored glasses, and without being depressed), Life itself is a corruption. Life with a capital L: organic matter’s obsession of going on at all costs for the sake of going on. The s~~~-show we are part of today is not a fluke, it’s Life’s Standard Operating Procedure. The medieval expression vale of tears is as apt as ever.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

blade wrote:

Sky-O wrote:

In order for evil to exist, unobstructed, it is only necessary that forces of good standing by and do nothing.

That stood out . People are me me me and not we . Communities broken . Families broken . Now countries broken .
They want everyone devide the people .

Soo gentlemens lets sit back and enjoy the fire.

Popcorn?

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[SpiderHerderParticipant 3794]

Got chocolate ?

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