Monkey-branching behaviour?

[Just MikeParticipant 393]

I work as a telecoms technician and part of my job involves making house visits for appointments, installing new services, fixing old ones etc. A lot of the time my phone contact is the hubby, who’s at work. I call him before attending the job and usually wifey’s at home waiting for me to arrive. Other times a woman is the phone contact and she tells me she’s waiting at home. With these ones it’s not immediately clear if she has a partner or not.

I can tell you a few things:

* When hubby’s the contact point ie. taking charge of the appointment even when he’s going to be at work for it and is basically delegating the responsibility to wifey to ‘be there and manage it’, the house is usually a lot cleaner. Just a point.

* When a woman is the contact point, if I arrive and the house is clean, at some point she’ll usually mention hubby as a matter of discourse in conversation. She won’t be trying to point anything out like ‘hey look, I’m married’, she’ll just be saying ‘oh, hubby tried this, hubby tried that’, trying to give an overview of a phone fault etc. In other words, *she doesn’t try to deny his existence*.

* As an addendum to the above (unrelated to the overall topic but still of interest), clean house or not, evidence of hubby or not, most women simply don’t want to listen to what the f~~~ I’m telling them, even if it will solve their problem or save them time. What I tell them is very simple, even in trade-talk. I make it simple to understand. I can see their eyes glaze over and their brain go on strike and I know *exactly* what they’re thinking. It’s not that they can’t learn, it’s that they don’t want to. If it f~~~s up again they figure, even at the detriment of their time and service, that another guy, any other f~~~ing guy, will eventually come and fix it up again.

* Two-thirds of the time with kids/evidence of kids in the house, evidence of hubby or not, the house will be a f~~~ing pigsty. I’ve chucked runny s~~~s neater than a lot of those houses. Now, there’s reasonable kid mess and there’s f~~~ing food, diapers, s~~~ all over the floor mess. I’m talking about the latter. Again, the one-third of the cleaner houses with kids/evidence of, most of the time hubby will be the phone contact or she’ll allude to him during conversation. Kids are a lot more polite, and the women are nicer.

* With the two-thirds messy as f~~~ houses/women phone contacts, those bitches almost *never* mention hubby/partner of any type. They are generally fatter, uglier, lazier and their kids, if present, are much more feral. Evidence of kids but not present? You can tell she sits on her fat f~~~ing ass all day, useless as t~~~ on a bull. I guess these women are the single mums or they’re partnered up but *feel they have something to gain by not disclosing the partner*. The way they interact with me is also a lot different. It’s flirty and it f~~~ing disgusts me, sends shivers down my spine; not just because they’re about as physically desirable as a s~~~-covered rag…the behaviour itself sets off major alarm bells in my head because I understand why they do it. It’s much more subversive.

So, what do they know about me? They know I have a job and that I’m neat, professional, well-spoken and knowledgeable about it. I look after myself. I speak confidently and I have an inherent, good masculinity about me. And…boom, that’s it. That’s all they need to know and I’ve already demonstrated, without trying, that I’m of a much higher or more desirable value to them than what they’re probably used to. I don’t know if it’s a rule but with what I’ve written above, put the pieces together and tell me what you think. Keep in mind that my stats, even if rudimentary, are based on thousands of house calls.

How does it manifest? Apart from that disgusting flirting behaviour (like they had a f~~~ing chance! But I can tell they have no idea and they think their worth is equal to mine cos vag) my favourite is a woman immediately grabbing a broom upon my entry into the house and trying to clean in an utterly vain attempt to shift mess that *will* take days or possibly weeks to clean up (you think I’m kidding with weeks? I’m dead serious with some of these houses). Why? Of course she can’t make a jot of difference while I’m there…but the fat bitch is trying to demonstrate value. ‘Hey, look at me, I can clean when I want to. I could still have some value to you as a partner *wink wink*’.

If only they knew how f~~~ing far below the bar they fall from my point of view. I’d prefer them to look ashamed and disgusted because there’d be truth in that. Trying in desperation to clean, to flirt, to show some sort of value…for f~~~s sake. It depresses me because it shows how far out of whack their perceptions are and what they think they’re entitled to.

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[ChristopherParticipant 2478]

Interesting post. Thanks for your insights/observations.

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[Anonymous 42]

Just Mike wrote:

But I can tell they have no idea and they think their worth is equal to mine cos vag

I’ve seen the pigsties you’re talking about! You know what they say about cleanliness is next to godliness…

Life in a modern women’s pigsty is a life living in hell!

Not to mention the litterbox that hasn’t been changed in weeks and I’m puking! I can’t stand the smell of cat urine and feces! I’d execute every motherf~~~ing one of them!

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

Just Mike wrote:

…my favourite is a woman immediately grabbing a broom upon my entry into the house and trying to clean in an utterly vain attempt to shift mess that *will* take days or possibly weeks to clean up (you think I’m kidding with weeks? I’m dead serious with some of these houses). Why? Of course she can’t make a jot of difference while I’m there…but the fat bitch is trying to demonstrate value. ‘Hey, look at me, I can clean when I want to. I could still have some value to you as a partner *wink wink*’.

Women are fond of pointless demonstrations of trying to do something. I think it is the female version of when men do dumb s~~~ (stunts, risky behavior, etc) to impress women.

The semi-decent women usually at least TRY to act helpful. Often, the gf does try to help me with stuff, but sometimes a lot of what I do is a one-person job that a second person in my space would literally slow me down. But I don’t always discourage her, because there are somethings she can do that actually does help, for example weeding.

But with the latter, strategy and direction usually need to be applied. For example, she will try to clear a well-defined area of weeds entirely, instead of targeting a specific species that is about to go to seed. I cherry pick over a much larger area and skip over stuff that isn’t going to seed or sending out runners. (her method would result in weeds farther away sending seeds into the disturbed soil she just cleared)

So with women, you have women who have no desire to be helpful, and others who want to be helpful, but even the latter will usually need guidance.

As for women, they are likely evolutionarily programmed to have at least 3 potential replacement mates lined up.

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[JustAnotherGuyParticipant]

Just Mike wrote:

But I can tell they have no idea and they think their worth is equal to mine cos vag) my favourite is a woman immediately grabbing a broom upon my entry into the house and trying to clean in an utterly vain attempt to shift mess that *will* take days or possibly weeks to clean up (you think I’m kidding with weeks? I’m dead serious with some of these houses).

I run before and after work every day. Long story short, I’m too cheap to get a gym membership so I just do laps around the business park where I work. It’s very easy to tell which cars belong to the women, even if I didn’t do enough time outside to observe just about everybody (300-400 people) and their habits.

As a point of comparison: Cute early-twenties blonde who shows up every day with a Starbucks and an off-label “faux designer” purse? Car is f~~~ing disgusting. Food waste, discarded open makeup containers, back seat is just stacked with all kinds of random boxes and fast food refuse.

Slovenly obese late-twenties dude who is easily 150 pounds overweight: car is sparse. Has a car seat on one side. I don’t know if he’s a single dad or married, but other than some dust on the dash console (which is normal and totally understandable, my dashboard is dusty as hell), his car is pristine.

The girl LOOKS cute and put together, but her personal space is a travesty and a blight against humanity. The guy LOOKS like a complete mess and a slob, but his personal space is immaculate.

I’m chalking this up to testosterone.

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[AwakenedParticipant 35203]

Just Mike wrote:

You can tell she sits on her fat f~~~ing ass all day, useless as t~~~ on a bull

Just Mike wrote:

my favourite is a woman immediately grabbing a broom upon my entry into the house and trying to clean in an utterly vain attempt to shift mess that *will* take days or possibly weeks to clean up (you think I’m kidding with weeks?

This is the Useless “t~~~ on a bull” attempting to put “lipstick on a pig”. LOL

These lil trolls have to just make you LOL with Every Meeting.

It must be nice to have a job t hat provides regular entertainment.

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[RusskyParticipant 13503]

I fix appliances for a living right now, so I do house calls every day too. Most of them are good – nice areas, intact families, pretty clean – upper middle class and lower upper class – anyone who has money to fix appliances for cash or money to buy brand new (warranty service). Once in a while I have to do warranty service in some section 8 apartments – those are the absolute worst. But most of the time I run into no issues or any tension – housewives of upper middle class view me as a grunt help, not a man – I pretty much don’t exist to them.
Most common problems I experience with females at work fall into two categories – pathological liars, and those who have something in mind and wouldn’t take no for an answer.
Example of the first one: “My washer fills with too little water. But I swear it was filling in faster a week ago”. Biggest problem is not being able to call them on their bulls~~~.
Example of the second one: Usually they use their cuck hubby as a proxy in this case. You talk to him trying to explain the problem, but he wouldn’t listen. And then you understand that wife gave him an ultimatum: “I’m scared to use this stove, you have to get it replaced”, or “Do whatever it takes to get it replaced”.
Only once I had some liberal married cougar real estate agent trying to hit on me, I told my boss I feel uncomfortable going back there, so he sent someone else

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[Just MikeParticipant 393]

I’m chalking this up to testosterone.

How so, specifically?

I was gonna say, I rent a house on my own and this f~~~er is as tight as a drum cleanliness-wise. You could set an atomic clock to my habits and routine; it’s an important part of my life that gives me control, pride and mastery of my time. It’s also why I choose not to sub-let a room. People I’ve generally lived with in the past have simply not made the cut for keeping house and being cool, with a few exceptions. It’s a hard wire to balance on.

A lot of people think I’m OCD. I’m not. I’m just a motherf~~~in’ spartan warrior and I put their life skills to shame. They don’t like that so they label it as something detrimental. No matter; I run rings around them and they know it.

I know a lot of guys like that, too, who either keep their s~~~ organised or just get rid of a lot of it so they don’t have to spend so much time organising in the first place. Interestingly enough, the more a guy has his s~~~ in order among these guys, the higher they generally punch in life so I can see the testosterone correlation. Some of these guys clean more than their wives/partners even after having worked a full day while she stayed home with or without kids.

I’ve read on here before that men create and maintain things whilst women just let things go to s~~~ and buy another when it gives out. They consume. I agree with that. Just trying to piece together how testosterone specifically could be the precursor to it.

I’d talk through it and hack a theory together but today my brain has been mush. So be it.

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[GregB0Participant]

Just Mike wrote:

what they think they’re entitled to.

Survey says: A 24/7 provider.

This provider will pay for all household expenses.
In addition, they will unquestioningly pay for any object, service, trip, event, or demand that she makes.
As a parting gift once it is all over, they will provide alimony, child support, a home, personal property and much, much more!

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[JustAnotherGuyParticipant]

Just Mike wrote:

How so, specifically?

Testosterone gives you drive and focus. Men are naturally more organized and care more about their personal space having some semblance of order, even if it’s piles.

Women lack any sense of drive or focus. They try to pass it off as “multi-tasking,” but it’s really failing at a dozen things simultaneously.

Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805

[narwhalParticipant]

I’ve noticed that whenever I need to have a service guy come to the house for whatever reason, I always get along great with them these days. That didn’t seem to happen when I was married or even when I was single before then. I would imagine some of that has to do with changes in my personality, but much of it has to do with getting a chance to work for a guy who respects them and what they do, and shows an interest in their profession.

Ok. Then do it.

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