Monk

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

Liberty and truth is more important to me and they trump any physical desires I have!
I will stop just short of saying never, but its highly unlikely that a female will prove
worthy of my trust..

My s~~~ tests would be extreme.
She would have to literally worship me and the ground I walk on
for an extended length of time before I would consider trusting her.

Love and respect

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[ChristopherParticipant 2478]

Anonymous wrote:

A question for Monks. Does your mindset change in time, without female attachments (relations~~~s or sex)? Or are you more or less the same as you always were, just with the benefit of an undisturbed equilibrium?

Macho made a very good point/observation in relation to this imho.

There are a lot of variables here. In a more ideal (non-gynocentric) world most men would naturally be the senior figure in a family unit – as has been the case for many thousands of years. Also there are men that naturally have monk inclination. In todays world of illogical feminism for those ‘MGTOW’ that choose monk mode there are obviously various types/definitions of monk mode that suit each man and his current natural inclinations, life situation, goals or realisations. Monk mode can be a powerful practical default mode that does not necessarily require much thought at all – and/or it can also be part of a philosophical or spiritual approach to life.

As a generalisation I would say obviously for those that choose monk mode the degree of mindset changes and undisturbed equilibrium accrued from monk mode varies from one individual to another and ‘may’ depend to what degree a man embraces/is interested in a certain definition of monk lifestyle consciously or subconsciously. Yes (relatively speaking) undisturbed equilibrium can occur and for very long periods. In relation to mindset yes it can change but again it depends – certain ‘unneeded’ thought patterns ‘may’ naturally fall away more uncovering a mans natural state of happiness/peace underneath – yet of course a man does not necessarily need to be monk to be happy.

Monk mode helps MGTOW to protect from the risks of relationships in todays gyno society – the advantages are well described on this thread/site. For those that have the interest/inclination celibacy has advantages that TMM described in his thread on celibacy – though of course celibacy does not suit everyone and is not meant to. Purification can also become a powerful/wonderful aspect of this in a spiritual sense but that is a whole other discussion on spiritual approaches to life. Peace.

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[JustAnotherGuyParticipant]

MoreSky wrote:

Going monk is like going MGTOW in the first place. Everyone does it in their own way for their own reasons, and it is likely easier for one, such as myself, who has been through a torrid divorce, than for a bloke bored of pumping and dumping who may see it as giving up sex rather than having an aversion to it.

I am monk because I find the thought of sex with diseased, entitled slags repulsive, but also because I do not want any form of a relationship with a woman to avoid a repeat of previous destructive experiences.

Bingo.

Awakened wrote:

I envision the “nice” thing about being Monk is that you Truly Don’t NEED/WANT Anything from a Woman. That is assuming that being Monk isn’t driving you CRAZY for Sex.

You really DON’T need anything from a woman. All those feelings you get from sex? That comes from you. That’s all a hormonal response generated by your own genes.

I’m not one of those lunatics telling you to go no-fap. That’s just retarded. I’m just saying that the state of gender relations in the west makes even casual flirting a reputation-crushing liability, so why would I want to stick my dick in the crazy and give it the coup-de-grace for free?

As I say, it’s not that every woman out there will ruin you. It’s that any of them can, and it’s trivial to do so.

Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

A question for Monks. Does your mindset change in time, without female attachments (relations~~~s or sex)? Or are you more or less the same as you always were, just with the benefit of an undisturbed equilibrium?

I have always been my mindset. The only difference is that I have more free time to explore my own brain and do what I care about. I never really appreciated just how much time you sink into getting laid, especially when you’re married. You miss anything on that honey-do list and you are cut off until you demonstrate contrition.

Christopher wrote:

Monk mode helps MGTOW to protect from the risks of relationships in todays gyno society – the advantages are well described on this thread/site. For those that have the interest/inclination celibacy has advantages that TMM described in his thread on celibacy – though of course celibacy does not suit everyone and is not meant to. Purification can also become a powerful/wonderful aspect of this in a spiritual sense but that is a whole other discussion on spiritual approaches to life. Peace.

Monk mode isn’t for all MGTOW, just like MGTOW isn’t for all men. Monk is a sub-set of a sub-set. All we monks can do is describe the benefits of it to us and, if it works for you, make it part of your own way.

Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

I make monk-like decisions from time-to-time; I was veering toward monk-dom until late 2016, when I landed TWO girlfriends. I decided to keep the one, and I don’t really need the sex. I pass up opportunities to get it from her when I consider it inconvenient or I have better things to do, like mow the lawn or play a computer game.

I’m ambivalent towards “relationship”; I have felt no “pair-bonding” connection with ANY women since the ex left and I went full red-pill. I’m simply pragmatic now.

I foresee the current relationship ending after I have had my fill of seeing places in the world that I haven’t seen. I’m planning on splitting costs (hotel, car) when I visit Europe, Asia, South America. (we’ve taken 3 vacations here in the US so far, and split costs)

I certainly don’t see any logic in sticking around into retirement; even less in marriage or cohabitation.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[WPLParticipant 2390]

My assessment is similar to Morlock’s: the appeal is gone. Every woman to whom I’ve ever become romantically attached has burned me in time — my ex-wife being the worst of the bunch. Shortly after my ex left, I did try dating again but all I found were a bunch of self-centered, shallow, greedy, lazy, narcissistic attention whores. They all wanted something from me — but offered nothing of value in return. I know that nothing has changed in their fundamental nature, but modern technology and the decline of traditional values (not that those were perfect, but they did help keep society together) have led to a situation where the only rational response is to walk away.

[Anonymous 38]

Keymaster wrote:

As long as YOU apply the pressure and do all the work, you will see some action – and may even see some sparks! But remove your foot and what happens? NOTHING. Women are very much like a grinding wheel that way. Not really a value add, unless YOU make the effort.

And like a grinding wheel… it’s as if they are generally designed to RESPOND.

I never made any overt promise or declaration to “swear off women”. I just had better s~~~ to do. Applied the pressure and pursuit elsewhere

JustAnotherGuy wrote:

I have always been my mindset. The only difference is that I have more free time to explore my own brain and do what I care about. I never really appreciated just how much time you sink into getting laid, especially when you’re married. You miss anything on that honey-do list and you are cut off until you demonstrate contrition.

It is very true. When you stop, everything stops. I’ve done this and women will still drop hints, but none will make a real move. Suits me.

The mindset aspect is most interesting to me. As I age and accumulate knowledge and wisdom, I’m moving from looking at life as a problem to life being some kind of creative endeavour. ‘Self-actualisation’? Perhaps, though there’s no need to label it really. It’s almost like you’ve faced that question of how do you want to spend your remaining years? A. chasing, dealing with or merely thinking about women, or B. putting all of my time and effort into myself, creating and exploring new opportunities – and choosing B. So having already ‘chosen’ that answer, women are just irrelevant now.

What a great feeling when I think of the last couple of years and how much of a simp I was back then.

[MonkParticipant 16979]

Once you see them for what they are, see what they have to offer, and then internalise that information, it’s relatively easy to go Monk.

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

The mindset aspect is most interesting to me. As I age and accumulate knowledge and wisdom, I’m moving from looking at life as a problem to life being some kind of creative endeavour. ‘Self-actualisation’? Perhaps, though there’s no need to label it really.

As the Oracle said, “You’ve already made the decision. What you’re trying to figure out is the question.”

Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805

[AwakenedParticipant 35200]

Daryll55 wrote:

AWAKENED, you sure we weren’t bro’s in another lifetime??

Could be same father different mothers type thing, maybe the Ole man got around more then I give him credit for ?? LOL

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

I have many brothers from other mothers
!

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

It is very true. When you stop, everything stops. I’ve done this and women will still drop hints, but none will make a real move. Suits me.

Same here MGTaoist. Like KM said and others, when you don’t chase — its a near perfect way to have nothing to do with women. Eventually, in my case, its been so long (and I never had that much experience with women anyway) that I literally don’t understand them beyond theory. Women are like sentient aliens living in parallel with us. They seem like they belong but I don’t know them at all. They are foreign to me.

If you want to resign from it all, you don’t have to leave the city. I live smack in the middle of 3 million souls yet I’m alone nearly 24/7 with only one male friend I meet weekly for dinner or hang out. Other than that, I’d isolated amidst the crowds.

monk for me, is just plain ol MGTOW anyway. I can’t seem to apply what I know in theory about women, and put it into practice…nor do I want to because Im fairly sensitive and I pretty much hate their guts after a few days of knowing them. I always say, I love women’s bodies but I hate their attitudes. They’re the ultimate tease…every fiber of your being wants them desperately but the moment you get in their head and are socially interacting with them, it’s torture and misery.

[ChristopherParticipant 2478]

JustAnotherGuy wrote:

Monk mode isn’t for all MGTOW, just like MGTOW isn’t for all men. Monk is a sub-set of a sub-set. All we monks can do is describe the benefits of it to us and, if it works for you, make it part of your own way.

Yep I agree. Nicely put.

Feminism was funded by bankers/politicians to create more taxpayers. MGTOW IS FREEDOM https://archive.org/details/mgtowisfreedomblurayready

[Parker (Freedom Fighter)Participant 99]

Good post, brothers!

I have been monk for many years and I have to admit, there came a point (at least for me) where you don’t miss the sex anymore. This really infuriates women and blue pill men and confuses them at the same time. The reason for this is because sex is the main weapon women use to entrap men. Women know this and use it to their complete advantage to rope the guy in. Blue Pill men get upset because they know, at their deepest core, the red pill guys are right. Anger, shame and jealousy are the attitudes of the blue pill man towards the red pill monk. The blue pill man cannot and does not have the b~~~~ or the spine to stand up to cupcake and break the cycle. Their testicles have been neatly tucked away in the bottom of cupcakes purse. The blue pill man knows the red pill mans testicles are firmly attached to the rest of his body; another thing the blue pill man despises about himself and the red pill man.

Since going monk, I don’t have to worry about getting a woman pregnant, getting an STD or getting into the love triangle thing. I don’t have to put up with all the relationship drama that is part and parcel of sex. In today’s world, the monk keeps a healthy distance from any false sexual assault accusations, especially in the workplace. That in itself is very freeing. While going monk, others sense that about you. Especially women. I am not approached, flirted with or given any attention from women that is of a sexual, flirting or romantic nature. All my interactions with women are on a business level only. Women are perceptive that way and they see I am not a blue pill man, so they don’t even try with me.

Keep up the good fight brothers! Going full on monk for some men might not be easy, but in the long run, it is definitely worth it in my opinion! I am a Christian and I often point fellow believers to 1 Corinthians, Ch. 7. The whole of chapter seven talks about this very thing. I think the Apostle Paul is spot on when he writes about this!

Take care, brothers and keep up the fight!

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant]

Parker (Freedom Fighter) wrote:

I have been monk for many years and I have to admit, there came a point (at least for me) where you don’t miss the sex anymore

I didn’t really care about sex until the ex cornered me. That sex was pretty amazing. “Psychopaths” and “narbipolbitchistic can’t understand normal thinkers” are always exciting lays.

But most women just lay back and expect you to do all the work. Most of the time you can’t enjoy yourself because you are expected to do EVERYTHING.

Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805

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