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When I look at a lot of women, I get the impression that they are trying to repel men—especially men who have some sort of grooming standards. They dress tacky (ripped up pants), they have tattoos all over the place, they have blubber all over the place, they wear thick makeup, they have pieces of metal shrapnel stuck in their heads, they have green/blue/purple-dyed hair, they constantly stare at their smartphones—even when crossing the street with heavy traffic, and the nastiest words imaginable come out of their mouths. I’ve heard conversations in the men’s locker rooms that are more decent than the ones of these nasty bitches.
Consider this: many of these women are single moms. They are teaching their kids how to be nasty, tacky, and rude. And their ignorant, thug boyfriends reinforce those values.
These women want to marry GOOD MEN (after f~~~ing bad boys, getting pregnant, and getting on the dole). They seriously believe they deserve a good man who will take care of them and put up with their mind games. He has to be tall, handsome, physically fit, educated, wealthy, smart, sociable, etc. But most of all: he must love her for who she is on the inside (and not try to shame her for having bad habits, such as: sitting in front of the TV set all day and eating donuts.).
What do modern women have to offer? They don’t cook, clean, or raise kids well. They have sex occassionally when they’re in the mood or when they’re drunk at a party. When they wipe off the makeup, and lose the “good girl” act, you’ll see them as they really are.
Some women look good, but all they have to offer is that: looking good. They won’t do anything for you, but they’ll demand all sorts of favors from you. They don’t believe in a quid pro quo relationship.
This video was the inspiration for my rant:
"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)
Totally. I had become aware of a lot of this stuff over the years. The only one that kept me in the game was the belief that “NAWALT”. This deep desire for love/approval from a woman. Once I realized that that wasn’t even “real”, I was finally able to let go and see it for what it is.
120 weight. A burden. A hassle. A headache. A liability. An Expense.
Like you said, they don’t do anything of any value. It really is insanity, on males part, that this can’t be seen universally now because it’s so out in the open. Again, the denial is significant. The only thing that keeps the game alive is the false belief in a woman’s love. Once that’s removed, women can be seen for what they really are…. a burden.
Truth has no place to live in the mind of a woman.
And what’s interesting now. Before going MGTOW, I was like, why aren’t women happy. They can do all the normal chores in less than an hour or two a day. Modern technology, washing machines, running water, cleaning products, vacuums, now we got robotic vacuum cleaners.
What has really happened, men just haven’t fully comprehended it. Modern technology has liberated MEN.
I got a washing machine, I got running water, I got a grocery store. I’m now the one who is ‘free’. Looking back, men have always talked about how women were a burden, though rare, this understanding has always existed.
Back in the day, it was an all day event just to survive. Someone had to milk the cow. Go to the well and get water. Pick the veggies from the garden, etc. It’s not that way anymore. Women were just kind of a necessity, if a man wanted to live a decent life. Be able to work, expand, etc. Otherwise he’d be stuck all day getting food, building a fire (women were the ones who cut the firewood).
We see all this stuff going on. MEN are the one’s who have been liberated by modern technology. They think women have been liberated from the daily hassles of life, but no… that’s not it at all. Men have been liberated from women.
Truth has no place to live in the mind of a woman.
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Were all good men gone ?
I don’t have idea, I’m not a real manAs always stated by c~~~s, guy who refuse to serve them, aren’t real men, so you just keep using it against them. I have to control myself, every time that I listen to this bulls~~~, because I just want to laugh so hard.
Plain and simple, there is no good guys based on their absurd standards, as stated by a research done by a dating website, 80% of the men were classified BELLOW average by them. Mathematically it doesn’t seems right, because of the obvious, their extremely inflated egos and expectations.
A woman that wants a man that loves her by what she is inside ? IS THIS BITCH WANTING SOMEONE THAT READ MINDS ? What she is inside ? Narcissistic sadistic piece of s~~~ ? Selfish ? Shallow ? Well, seems like suicide to like those atributes !
Women are insane. This has been known since the beginning of time.
Truth has no place to live in the mind of a woman.
Here’s my take…. although I am a banker I am also a Hardcore Punk. Was so back in the day and I personally dig the aesthetic you are describing, to some degree. However, why is that the norm these days? I mean that look will appeal to a very small number of people (perhaps me) so why is everybody doing it? And how punk is a single mom living in the suburbs who has green hair and tattoos. Pathetic Poseurs. Its gotten to be too much… too common…. to boring etc….
Yeah man, i don’t get it either. It’s almost as if women don’t want to be held to any standards, even the relatively lax beauty standards through which they derive all their power and advantages.
They still want all the prizes and rewards, but without even doing anything for them. Not even just taking basic care of themselves with fitness, hygeine, diet, etc.
Anyway, it makes no difference to me what they do…but the fact that they choose to make themselves so hideous removes a lot of temptation from my life.
This deep desire for love/approval from a woman.
For me, the most bitter after-taste of the red pill was this:
Women want love/approval/sympathy/value/gifts/sexual pleasure from me, but they have no desire to give something of value in exchange for all my giving. They just want to receive.
If guy has a unicorn girlfriend, good for him. But the rest of us will suffer when we date women or get into a long-term relations~~~ with them.
Selfish women are the black holes of the human race.
"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)
With the advent of artificial wombs, sex robots, virtual reality porn, what has become of the modern woman? Two words,
Forced. Obsolescence.
Blue-Pill Virgin: Women hate me! That's what it is.
MGTOW Man: Hate them back; it works for me.
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Anonymous6Yea they always have their list of demands and have nothing to justify receiving that.
If they can have standards, then men can have standards as well.
Give me a white or hispanic chick, or non-American black chick who works out, has a degree, can cook, clean, f~~~, make a good mother, and respect me to lead, and i will sign off this site.
Women are useless, men are better at ALMOST everything except one thing.
Women are nice to look at. Let me say this, I AM NOT GAY, but I think men are more aesthetically attractive. Men have large muscles, a normal chest, nice body proportions, beautiful muscuoloskeletal systems from hardwork, smooth flowing curves, not overly obnoxious. I can honestly say that I enjoy looking at a well built male physique, it’s something I possess and that I work towards. I.E Arnold Schwarzenegger, ancient greeks, etc.
When I look at a woman’s physique, they have over sized hips, two huge saddlebags hanging from their chest, weak jawlines, undefined muscles, and extra fat. Most also have very poor posture and musculo skeletal systems from sittying around all the time. They look weak and frail as well.
Now with that being said; biologically I am very attracted to beautiful women, I have an insane libido. That is the only thing modern women have to offer men. Modern men are well educated, well rounded, self-sufficient, renaissance men. We are the best cooks, the best hair stylist, the best parents, the best EVERYTHING. Hell by any, non biased standards, the male body is way more aestetically pleasing than a females too.
Women know this, so they only have one thing going for them, they exploit their sex appeal. I use this term loosely because most women have terrible bodies and poor fashion taste. However, nobody can deny the biological urges being exploited here. It’s actually kind of sad and pathetic when you think about it, that the only thing women have going for them is that they are cum receptacles for men. And most modern women can’t even do that.
I was once a great king, I believe you were too. I hope you believe in me, I hope you believe in you.
With regard to womens tattoos, unnatural hair colors, facial piercings, etc, I really believe that this is all by design by Communists to diliberitly make women unattractive to men, which ultimately undermines the strength of America and western civilization. Don’t believe me? Not too long ago left wing MSN.com was pushing a fashion story about how trendy it is for women to get arm pit tattoos. F~~~ing arm pit tattoos!!!! Talk about totally f~~~ing repulsive. I wish I knew how to paste link. And women will be dumb enough to do that s~~~. I’m telling you this s~~~ is by design to turn off guy to women.
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Women are useless, men are better at ALMOST everything except one thing.
Women are nice to look at. Let me say this, I AM NOT GAY, but I think men are more aesthetically attractive. Men have large muscles, a normal chest, nice body proportions, beautiful muscuoloskeletal systems from hardwork, smooth flowing curves, not overly obnoxious. I can honestly say that I enjoy looking at a well built male physique, it’s something I possess and that I work towards. I.E Arnold Schwarzenegger, ancient greeks, etc.
When I look at a woman’s physique, they have over sized hips, two huge saddlebags hanging from their chest, weak jawlines, undefined muscles, and extra fat. Most also have very poor posture and musculo skeletal systems from sittying around all the time. They look weak and frail as well.
Now with that being said; biologically I am very attracted to beautiful women, I have an insane libido. That is the only thing modern women have to offer men. Modern men are well educated, well rounded, self-sufficient, renaissance men. We are the best cooks, the best hair stylist, the best parents, the best EVERYTHING. Hell by any, non biased standards, the male body is way more aestetically pleasing than a females too.
Women know this, so they only have one thing going for them, they exploit their sex appeal. I use this term loosely because most women have terrible bodies and poor fashion taste. However, nobody can deny the biological urges being exploited here. It’s actually kind of sad and pathetic when you think about it, that the only thing women have going for them is that they are cum receptacles for men. And most modern women can’t even do that.
Cant agree with you there Raj. Women in good shape are amazingly beautiful with all their curves and neat packages. Men are just a bunch of clunky, angular bits whacked together as far as i’m concerned.
Its why beautiful cars and objects are mostly designed with the curves of women in mind. Its that beauty that keeps a lot of guys on the hook hanging to get a piece. When they dont have that, they dont offer much.
Men are just a bunch of clunky, angular bits whacked together as far as i’m concerned.
Bulls~~~. You see it that way because most men are repulsed by other men (unlike women) naturally.
Ester Villar talked about it in “The Manipulated Man”
and I quote:It is lucky for the adult woman that men do not consider themselves
beautiful, since most men are beautiful. Their smooth bodies, kept trim by
hard work, their strong shoulders, their muscular legs, their melodic voices,
their warm, human laughter, the intelligent expression of their faces, and
their calibrated, meaningful movements overshadow those of women completely,
even in a purely animal sense. And since they, unlike women, work
and their bodies are therefore preserved for continued future use, men also
retain their beauty longer. As a result of their inertia, women’s bodies rapidly
decay and, after the age of fifty, they are nothing but indifferent heaps
of human cells. (One has only to observe a fifty-year-old housewife on the
street and compare her appearance with that of a man of the same age.)
Men are not aware of their own beauty and no one mentions it. There is
so much rubbish written and talked about the charm of women. Even children
and animals are considered graceful, adorable, and delightful – but
never a man. Men are at best praised for their steadfastness, courage, reliability
– all qualities useful to women, having nothing to do with physical
appearance. It would be difficult to find a description of the male body except
in a medical textbook. And outside of these, who would ever dream of
going into great detail about the exact shape of his lips, the precise shade of
his eyes in a special kind of light? And as for the delicacy of his nipples or
the pleasing shape of his scrotum and his testicles – just imagine a man’s
amazement and amusement if they were the subject of hymns of praise!
Men are not used to having their looks discussed. Grown women, as a
rule ugly creatures, have time and opportunity to admire men, but rarely see
them. It is not that a woman is mean or envious; it is that she thinks of him
as a machine – a machine for the production of material goods. And who
regards a machine as an object of beauty? It is something that functions,
and men judge themselves similarly. They are far too worn out by their role
as providers and by the eternal rat race to think of being objective about
their own looks.
All this is a pointless discussion anyway, for basically men are not interested
in the possibility of being beautiful. What point would that give to
their labors? Women must be the ones who are beautiful, helpless, adorable
– they must be, in fact, lacking a more precise definition, “the fair sex.”beauty is in the mind of the beholder and this comes straight from the horse’s mouth
Women do see men as beautiful, but society teaches us to denigrate men and worship women, so we learn to pretend that only women can be beautiful. Also if start talking about men’s beauty – then you must be gay, so men never talk about it and accept Hive’s version hook and sinker – that men are ugly
I have a curse and a talent of seeing things from female perspective also, and so are those who can see a Chad from a mile away. This is what women find beautiful. It’s just a different kind of beauty, but beauty nevertheless.
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Women do see men as beautiful, but society teaches us to denigrate men and worship women, so we learn to pretend that only women can be beautiful.
That was a very nice piece that you quoted.
Yes, I enjoy looking at women as much as anyone. But overall men are the more beautiful of the two for exactly the same reasons from your excerpt.
As far as the design of cars, the most beautiful cars are rigid and angular in design, with sharp edges. Lamborghinis, Ferraris, Ford GT, Jeeps. Look at any man’s physique, rigid and angular.
Look at car designs that are “curved” volkswagon beatles, volkswagon minibus, mini coopers. These are not beautifully designed cars. They are cares favored by hipsters and liberals alike for their soft angles and curvy bodies.
Men are more beautiful inside and out.
Cant agree with you there Raj. Women in good shape are amazingly beautiful with all their curves and neat packages. Men are just a bunch of clunky, angular bits whacked together as far as i’m concerned.
I was once a great king, I believe you were too. I hope you believe in me, I hope you believe in you.
Very litte? I think there is ZERO value if not worse. She is a liability, not an asset.
Bulls~~~. You see it that way because most men are repulsed by other men (unlike women) naturally.
Its not bulls~~~ at all, you may disagree with me if you like and that is your right, but i disagree and many others would too. I find the curves and neatness of the female form at its finest much more alluring. Its just a pity the management system that controls it is so f~~~ed up..
My observation is that modern women are rude, hard, cold, and aggressively masculine. I’m not into dudes especially the ones with vaginas. The mistake I made was conflating their looks with their character. They look good so they must be good, but the opposite is true. The better they look the worse their character is.
Now they do everything in their power to look as repulsive as they can and they are succeeding bigly.
They reach for the sky expecting Prince Charming to rescue them from the “drudgery”…
Us men, we just want a simple life…Comfortable and peaceful….
I stand with feet apart and let my balls hang free...Manginas dont have balls...See how they stand and sit at the whim of their masters...
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