Mo money, No problems

[MonkSimonParticipant 73]

Hello Brothers,

I have been casually been strolling around, seeing what you are all up to in your lives, how some of you make money for instance.

I would like to share with you, how I make my money, hopefully, this helps someone who is in a hard bind or someone who wants to make more on the side.

—

A bunch of us went to my uncle’s bachelor party in Las Vegas, we had a blast, gun ranges, strippers, party favours and booze. everything a young blood could ask for.

I was wandering around the hotel, in all of a sudden, I see people speed walking to a room off to the end of the hall, there is one of these grand conference areas was a seminar about business. I peeked inside knowing full well I wasn’t authorized to be there, Didn’t know who the dude was on stage or what he was talking about, except one thing… leverage.

I was there for about 10 minutes listening to this man speak, absorbing every word while I can until this little Asian chick slid past glaring at me “where is your badge, sir?”.

I was promptly removed by security.

I did retain good chunks of information about what he said, and I applied it to my work and made self-sustaining businesses.

so his idea was to leverage experts work to further your own, for example, if I wanted to start a construction company but have no staff or labour, I would subcontract the work, get the ok on jobs that need all the windows and doors in a subdivision done in a weekend, BOOM you have work but no workers, you go to the smaller companies with 5 or so guys in it, and keep collecting till you can double out your output per home, once you have that keep doubling your subcontractor numbers untill you’re done. you get a huge payday and you pay for piecework not hourly.

keep recycling contractors with high output and carry over to other jobs.now you have an army of close to 200 + men building homes and doing renovations.

leverage as a middleman, that’s the fastest way to make money my friends.

I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. - Galileo Galilei

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Hummm I pass, too much stress, I just need enough €€ to retire at 50 nothing more.

Gonna keep life as simple and boring as sub humanly possible

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[It’sallbsParticipant]

MonkSimon wrote:

Hello Brothers,

I have been casually been strolling around, seeing what you are all up to in your lives, how some of you make money for instance.

I would like to share with you, how I make my money, hopefully, this helps someone who is in a hard bind or someone who wants to make more on the side.

—

A bunch of us went to my uncle’s bachelor party in Las Vegas, we had a blast, gun ranges, strippers, party favours and booze. everything a young blood could ask for.

I was wandering around the hotel, in all of a sudden, I see people speed walking to a room off to the end of the hall, there is one of these grand conference areas was a seminar about business. I peeked inside knowing full well I wasn’t authorized to be there, Didn’t know who the dude was on stage or what he was talking about, except one thing… leverage.

I was there for about 10 minutes listening to this man speak, absorbing every word while I can until this little Asian chick slid past glaring at me “where is your badge, sir?”.

I was promptly removed by security.

I did retain good chunks of information about what he said, and I applied it to my work and made self-sustaining businesses.

so his idea was to leverage experts work to further your own, for example, if I wanted to start a construction company but have no staff or labour, I would subcontract the work, get the ok on jobs that need all the windows and doors in a subdivision done in a weekend, BOOM you have work but no workers, you go to the smaller companies with 5 or so guys in it, and keep collecting till you can double out your output per home, once you have that keep doubling your subcontractor numbers untill you’re done. you get a huge payday and you pay for piecework not hourly.

keep recycling contractors with high output and carry over to other jobs.now you have an army of close to 200 + men building homes and doing renovations.

leverage as a middleman, that’s the fastest way to make money my friends.

There are thousand of people.companie sout there doing that aexploitingteh poor contractor and fcuking ub teh job marekt tehy arecalel dRecruitment Consultants.

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[MonkSimonParticipant 73]

Yeah I fight with this a lot with myself, I want a lot of money for the crazy things I do and I want a simple life, so I fixed that problem as well, I found that my time was taken up by the constant communication, but since I was making a lot of money I figured it was time for me to detach and see if the business can float on its own. I trained 4 guys to replace me and broke up my team of 200 into 4 groups which made it easier for everyone.

then I go on vacation.

I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. - Galileo Galilei

[Anonymous 42]

Knowledge is leverage, if your brain isn’t aching from feeding it the latest technology in your field, then you’re stagnant with atrophy and necrosis settling in.

My product is being shipped transcontinental, my brother said something profound, we Americans are only 1 in 17 of the world’s population, why not go after the other 16 with internet marketing directly to the customer “levering out” everyone “in between”.

I agree with your post in nature, wanna buy any used construction equipment? I’m onto a global market with a very fine and limited niche in my favor.

[MonkSimonParticipant 73]

I don’t see it as f~~~ing up the job market at all, these guys now have more money in their pockets, on jobs they would not have gotten in the first place, I made money so my pockets are full, and the subdivision owners are happy the work is finished before schedule.

this type of employment loophole would not really be a thing if the market wasn’t already saturated

I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. - Galileo Galilei

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8283]

I’d like to add:

Check up on those subcontractors. Make sure they’re doing their jobs right.

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

[MonkSimonParticipant 73]

oh, they do I have 2 quality inspectors plus I vet the subs to make sure they are worth my time and energy to deal with. if not then I give them the boot.

I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. - Galileo Galilei

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

Yup. I just got a call that they want me to work in California on a large project for 30 bucks an hour in San Francisco. Oh well. I guess child support grows on trees in Oregon. They made me stay here, they made pulled me from my training program. They can fix this s~~~ with a some kind of made up warrant too.

You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

[DocParticipant]

It’s showing initiative and that is to be applauded.

Can’t fault you for that.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[AwakenedParticipant 35200]

I’m just a little confused by the business model that you are presenting and have a few questions.

MonkSimon wrote:

if I wanted to start a construction company but have no staff or labour, I would subcontract the work, get the ok on jobs that need all the windows and doors in a subdivision done in a weekend,

At least where I am from, there are a few issues with needing licensure as a contractor as well needing to be Insured and Bonded to perform any larger scale work before any general contractor will even look at you, and weekend work is EXPENSIVE.

MonkSimon wrote:

you go to the smaller companies with 5 or so guys in it, and keep collecting till you can double out your output per home

What does “double out your output” mean ?, and how does having more subs make anything more cost effective ? They EACH still need to be Paid ?

MonkSimon wrote:

you get a huge payday and you pay for piecework not hourly.

You are indirectly paying not only hourly, but also for every other expense of the sub plus the profit margin built in by each sub otherwise the sub wouldn’t be able to be in business.

There is such a thing as “brief case contractors”, but that model operates differently then what you’re presenting here.

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[MonkSimonParticipant 73]

The business isn’t very cut and dry, there is a lot of haggling and manoeuvring for payment. but it works.

the main thing here is that you’re the middleman, there is an overwhelming amount of little construction companies around here, lots just go under because they cant find the work or they just don’t know how to land jobs, I find the work, I pay them piece work (per home, not hourly) because of the market I can do this.

I am incorporated, I do follow all the guidelines and legal mumbo-jumbo. this is a legit business, but the only thing is it’s technically a temporary position for most guys, where you have it structured where you can cherry pick all the best guys to compound into a strong employee pool that you keep for yourself and build on that.

think of it like entering the aftermath of a bloody war and you search for survivors that you can add to your own growing army.

and when I talk about double your output I mean doubling the number of guys you have to the point where it doesn’t cut into your margins, leaving you with a healthy 30 to 50% net

you have a person with money but no workers, you have workers but nobody is hiring says them, last but not least is you, the middleman, the bridge to which you can facilitate this supply chain.

you are filling an order and that order is labour, no different than if you sold hoodies or dropshipped from China. just a more premium commodity.

I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. - Galileo Galilei

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22508]

MonkSimon wrote:

Hello Brothers,

I have been casually been strolling around, seeing what you are all up to in your lives, how some of you make money for instance.

I would like to share with you, how I make my money, hopefully, this helps someone who is in a hard bind or someone who wants to make more on the side.

—

A bunch of us went to my uncle’s bachelor party in Las Vegas, we had a blast, gun ranges, strippers, party favours and booze. everything a young blood could ask for.

I was wandering around the hotel, in all of a sudden, I see people speed walking to a room off to the end of the hall, there is one of these grand conference areas was a seminar about business. I peeked inside knowing full well I wasn’t authorized to be there, Didn’t know who the dude was on stage or what he was talking about, except one thing… leverage.

I was there for about 10 minutes listening to this man speak, absorbing every word while I can until this little Asian chick slid past glaring at me “where is your badge, sir?”.

I was promptly removed by security.

I did retain good chunks of information about what he said, and I applied it to my work and made self-sustaining businesses.

so his idea was to leverage experts work to further your own, for example, if I wanted to start a construction company but have no staff or labour, I would subcontract the work, get the ok on jobs that need all the windows and doors in a subdivision done in a weekend, BOOM you have work but no workers, you go to the smaller companies with 5 or so guys in it, and keep collecting till you can double out your output per home, once you have that keep doubling your subcontractor numbers untill you’re done. you get a huge payday and you pay for piecework not hourly.

keep recycling contractors with high output and carry over to other jobs.now you have an army of close to 200 + men building homes and doing renovations.

leverage as a middleman, that’s the fastest way to make money my friends.

For someone throwing out a hypothetical on stage, he ignores the negatives of reality. Logistics, overseeing things to ske sure they are done right, proper vetting of workers, quality control, when s~~~ is done wrong how that gets resolved and out of whose pocket that comes,….

Things are never that simple in reality, and all the negs are glossed over as minimal and not a big deal. Their schpiels are to get you amped up to buy whatever they are hawking on stage that day.

Not saying the concepts are invalid, I am saying that his pitch treats the actual reality people experience trying to implement the concepts very unbalanced – heavy on roses and low on manure.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

People who give seminars on how to make money make their money giving seminars. If the techniques worked they would be rich doing that, and not sharing it with you. You have to evaluate the risk. Usually the risk is so high in these schemes it negates the effort.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[It’sallbsParticipant]

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

whatever they are hawking on stage that day.

Which was probably a recruitment area franchise where you did the selling and they did the back office for you, whilst taking $50,000 upfront plus big fees form you every month.

That is usually what is happening in these type of seminars,same the world over.

Guess what the wolf of wall street now does -sells sales training to business owners.

It’sallbs bredrin-everything -the world is built on it.

The variety different species of snake oil salesmen is endless.

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[MonkSimonParticipant 73]

oh well, I make enough to live a good life, service brokering is still a great business. got to make your bones somehow.

I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. - Galileo Galilei

[ForeverDoneParticipant 2928]

[Gravel PitParticipant]

So you’re one of those guys who sneaks into the country club and uses the facilities without being a member eh!? the nerve of these guys! lol

A lot of paid speakers talk out of their ass. Ive been to many conventions and sometimes they give useful information must of the time it was not applicable to my business. Take it all with a grain of salt.

If you ever have plans to start a small business, run the plan through a few of us here. It could save you a fortune. Most small business lose big time. Don’t be the moronic 25 year old girl who somehow has $50,000 to spend, so she leases a small space, spends half of it to renovate and thinks that she’s going to be a millionaire owning a Yoga studio. 8 months later she is penniless, getting evicted and the IRS and state tax collectors are on her like white on rice. I’ve seen this scenario happen so many times, lives ruined, life savings evaporated.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

I know a guy who did this with coding jobs. He was a free lance coder and only took jobs he could do himself if need be. When he started to get backlogged he had a few other people he’d kick jobs out to and offer them compensation that was low enough he could skim a little profit off.

The thing was though…like I said…he only took jobs he could do himself. If his contacts didn’t want the work, or wouldn’t do it at a price he could skim a a little, he’d just do it himself.

You pretty much want to do the same thing…but on a much larger scale and with work you can’t do on your own. One bad bid can cost you a lot of money, or even just failing to find willing contractors for the price you offer at the time you need them and not getting work done on time can find you at best running a business with a s~~~ty reputation, but likely in legal trouble. I’d be very cautious if I were you, and you seem to be quite naive if you think you can just magically find work that people who make a living in the industry can’t find and dole it out to them while lining your own pockets.

FrostByte wrote:

People who give seminars on how to make money make their money giving seminars. If the techniques worked they would be rich doing that, and not sharing it with you. You have to evaluate the risk. Usually the risk is so high in these schemes it negates the effort.

Yeah lol…kinda what I was thinking. Reading the OP reminded me a lot of listening to people talk who have got sucked into sales pyramid schemes. In theory it sounds like they found an easy way to make a lot of money, but in practice it never works out as they imagine. In the end, if this guy was crushing it doing what he was talking about, why would he basically want to be selling his secrets to potential competitors when he could just be growing his business and making globs of money?

Generally if it seems too good to be true, its because it is.

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