misidentifying womens motives

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Im currently making The Bend, or whatever yall want to call it, where prior, I was largely ignored by females. Now Im somewhat being accounted for on their radars. Not saying Im suddenly attractive and Im not qualifying anything with age. Honestly, theres not much difference between before and after The Bend, but you notice a few peculiar things.

I noticed a large Red Pill (misidentified at first) that initiated a positive change in me last year, after years of Going My Own Way. That is that two post wall women in their mid 40s showed serious interest in me. Im 33. These encounters were separate and the women were also very different economically.

Both these women initiated interest and met with me privately. Sex seemed to be a very high likelihood but it never coalesced. Why? Why did they bark up my tree but then disappear instead?

Honestly, I didnt ‘get it’ last Summer. I was physically repulsed, emotionally jarred from these seeming rejections. I began cycling and running avidly as a result and havent stopped.

What finally occurred to me today, a year later, is that these women had chalked me up to being a Chad type. They thought I was going to be direct and perform soft porn on them the moment I was alone with them. Instead, they were put off by the truth that I was a ‘nice guy’ looking for a relationship.

I didnt understand this rationally until now. I only understood it emotionally at the time. My emotions of disgust (at their nature) compelled me to GMOW even harder than before. I didnt understand the emotion though. I thought it was because I was ugly and needed to lose weight, so I began exercising. But Im average looks and pretty fit. Thats not why I morphed.

Only now can I see, the clear, visceral, repulsion I felt was not insecurity at possibly being “not good enough” for these women who were clearly below my SMV, but the feeling of dread and my subsequent flight into personal fitness was a natural, sane and healthy reaction to the ambivalence I felt that day.

On the one hand, I was finally at The Bend, ready to melt into the ecstasy of female affection after years of no contact. Id arrived. But whats this? What’s exactly on offer here (?) whether it was a 45 year old lady or a 25 year old babe. It wasnt romance or love on offer. There wasnt gonna be any ‘love’ or auroraic embrace. Im just a Pole to her. Im just one of the plastic ponies on the Carousel. And this is what led me to pursue myself instead, that red pill unearthed. They passed on the love, and I passed on all of them forever.

Sometimes the destination turns out to be a facade, so you turn back and relive the journey instead. And there are tears shed at this. The loss of a dream. The debasement of the sacred feminine. The corruption of what men have made women out to be in legends.

Im not the one to sulk about it, so I rode on.
Im not the one to take part in it either, so I rode on. Not my problem.
Going My Own Way.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22514]

The “love” you speak of is an illusion. Rejecting you they did you a massive favor. Considering awalt I wouldn’t ever be thinking in terms of being able to “love” a woman, not a modern one, anyway.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[Sky-OParticipant 18936]

The moment that a man sees the illusionary facade of romantic love for being what it is:

He is able to begin living a fully authentic and genuine life, with goal directed action and pursuit of his dreams and aspirations as his calling.

[EGParticipant 1852]

Gravel Pit wrote:

What finally occurred to me today, a year later, is that these women had chalked me up to being a Chad type.

*People* have always chalked me up to be a Chad type. My speech and mannerisms tend to throw them off. Sometimes, when they find out they’re barking up the wrong tree, they throw their flawed perceptions back at me as if it’s some sort of flaw I need to fix. I’m not “queer” enough I guess. Or I’m “a waste”. F*ck these people. They want to inflict change upon me and I’m more than happy to disappoint, always.

[EGParticipant 1852]

Gravel Pit wrote:

Sometimes the destination turns out to be a facade, so you turn back and relive the journey instead.

^ This right here is brilliant.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

I always said that I want to be with someone who wanted to be with me, not needed to be. I have yet to meet her. Not that I’m looking anymore. At my age I KNOW that I’m just the last chance at making up for 30 years of s~~~ty financial planning. Nothing about that would make me feel wanted.

To be wanted, not needed. They can’t even fake wanting you anymore. Pass.

Order the good wine

[AwakenedParticipant 35201]

You really have no idea what the hell was going on in their lil hamster wheels as it’s not based in logic, but in feels/emotions.

I guess the IMPORTANT part is that regardless of why they weren’t interested at least you REMAINED FREE !!

THIS is what should be remembered/embraced and focused on…..No Need to waste YOUR Time, Energy, Effort, and Focus on them.

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[MonkParticipant 16988]

Gravel Pit wrote:

… two post wall women in their mid 40s showed serious interest in me. Im 33. These encounters were separate and the women were also very different economically. Both these women initiated interest and met with me privately. Sex seemed to be a very high likelihood but it never coalesced. Why? Why did they bark up my tree but then disappear instead?

Probably looking for Chad or ‘I’m a cougar’ validation from a younger man. Given their ages, there’s also the possibility that they are now looking for a retirement plan.

As to why they disappeared, it may well be that – like animals – they sensed that something wasn’t quite right.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Gravel Pit wrote:

chalked me up to being a Chad type. They were put off by the truth that I was a ‘nice guy’ instead

Sorry I was long winded about it. Its just weird when it finally happens to you. And you have to lay some delusions to rest. The emotions make it more cloudy than it needs to be.

Thanks Gents

Gravel Pit wrote:

Im just one of the plastic ponies on the Carousel. And this is what led me to pursue myself instead

I might play the Pony Role a few times to try it out, or maybe not. I have plenty going on…

EG wrote:

they throw their flawed perceptions back at me as if it’s some sort of flaw I need to fix.

Yup. Im not the one who is broken! I get it, that its hard not to stereotype people, but holy sh!t they dont even acknowledge theres more beneath the surface in this world. Im more than a bearded Dad-Bod. Who is the sex symbol now? Who is the object or prize now? And they do this right after having been objectified themselves! So they learned nothing, or atleast lack perspective.

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

Rejecting you they did you a massive favor.

Its true. One was all dressed up nice, makes a lot of money, invited me over to her place after she had a dinner function. She wanted to be thrashed Im sure of it. I was too clouded by the fact that one was getting close. I ALWAYS think they are feeling emotional and vulnerable and romantic. Not at all, they feel a need to be dirty and mistreated is what it really is. The moment you let on youre a normal, well-intentioned male, her puss dries up.

I think Awakened is correct on the 2nd woman though. I cant know whats going in her hamster wheel. She was just neurotic and had a brief moment of wanting to be Chadded, but she really wanted a drug buddy or a steady wallet… Drug addict women are a mess. She had recently gotten clean for realz, but she was too far gone mentally at that point to make much sense. I never followed up with her, she is probably relapsed by now. Once a mind is broken by decades of crack/meth, its basically irretrievable.

Sky-O wrote:

He is able to begin living a fully authentic and genuine life

Yup. The epiphany of the red pill is an awesome thing. Like a religious experience or contemplative awakening.
The lights come ON.

Awakened wrote:

you REMAINED FREE !!

the solace of the male mind is the best place to reside. You make your own space in there, where no greedy woman can reach you.

Monk wrote:

‘I’m a cougar’ validation

Millennial women are now hitting Cougar Age. I presume many will deny they are cougars and resent the label until they are so far post wall that Cougar starts sounding better, like they have some trace of SMV left when in reality its gone.

[black_knightParticipant 2602]

Great thread. I’m past my red pill learning now, and it’s been internalised to the point where I’m at peace with it, genuinely going my own way. But, I do enjoy reinforcing it from time to time with the type of wisdom and knowledge seen throughout this thread. There’s too many succinct conclusions here to single one out for praise.

But I will reiterate one point made: women are very often not to be read as romantic and vulnerable. Most, if not all approaches I’ve received are women definitely looking for a thrashing. Unfortunately for them, I’d rather spend an hour dissecting Philip Larkin’s poetry, comparing and contrasting classic dystopian novels, or strolling round a classic semi-truck show. Needless to say, if I had £1 for every time a woman, once rejected, asked “are you gay?” I’d have enough to buy myself a slap-up meal in a good restaurant and enough left over for a good bottle of wine on the way home.

[Daryll55Participant 2950]

black_knight wrote:

every time a woman, once rejected, asked “are you gay?”

LOL, I have had that happen to me too a few times. Sometimes I tell them “yes” (I’m not, it’s just easier to put ane nd to it all that way.)

Like other MEN here have said: The women notice now because ya buff from riding/exercise and now see you as “worthy” THey could care less about “love,” or the real GP; i’s just about their vanity and SMV.

GP,…
Sounds like you have “Ascended” to true red-pill! Most men have to get to where you are now the hard way,(divorce) and are in their 40’s. You got there early, and beat the emotional/financial hardship.
Congrats

Marry again, Hell NO ! ( Even JESUS was hung on a cross just once)

[bstoffParticipant 4863]

TaxGuy wrote:

At my age I KNOW that I’m just the last chance at making up for 30 years of s~~~ty financial planning.

Ohhhh Man!
This sooooo reminds of of my last handful of girlfriends and ex-wife!

It’s easy to spot them now, thank GOD!

[Parker (Freedom Fighter)Participant 99]

I am sooooo glad I am off of women’s radar! I don’t have to deal with all the BS women put out nowadays.

Best way to do it, gents, is to ghost in plain site!

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