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So i recently got a sister ( im 25 and my father is remarried at 51- dont even start me on that please lol), and 3 years ago he had a baby girl with his wife, now i never had a sister – it was alway me and my younger brother (he is 3 years younger than me). First i felt resentment since i really hate kids, but once i met her i dont know man… its just a new kind of feeling i cant explain- i have no kids but i can certainly say that i never cared about anyone this much in my life- i kind of feel like she is my daughter because of the age difference ( lol my parents made me when they were my age now).
So my question is basically this: how do you guys who are MGTOW settle this knowledge you have that AWALT and the fact that your daughter ( my sister in this case) will inevitably become one just like all of them simply because society will mold her and it doesnt matter how hard you try to pull the other way, she will become another AWALT. And if there is some reasoning for why she wont ( which i doubt there is since im MGTOW and cant think of one) is NAWALT actually true then? ( i dont think so but i would really like to hear the older guys who have daughters share their view)
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Why bother fighting hundreds of thousands of years of nature. They are who they are. Just be glad MGTOW showed you who they are. I always tell my daughter to treat others as you would like to be treated.
Get a vasectomy.
Great question.
My number one job is being a father, and my daughter knows this. She also takes my cues when it comes to principles, ethics, and how you treat other people.
Now this doesn’t mean when she grows up she won’t turn into the normal woman. But she knows that if she pulls the s~~~ her mother did, I will disown her and try to help her husband out financially and other things to fight her in court.
Do I think she will turn into a bitch? I know her very well, and I would bet against it. But she also knows there will be consequences to her actions. What is not always talked about is that women not only get help from the family court system, but from their families. My daughter will get nothing from me if she does this.
Like a bird on the wire, like a drunk midnight choir, I have tried in my way to be free.
Anonymous3I don’t give a s~~~ about other unrelated men. I care more about my blood relatives and relations. While I understand female nature, that has nothing to do with my blood relations.
Besides, most of the time your cousins, nieces, etc. will have a natural bond towards you as well. I actually barely talk to any of them but they are always so happy to see me, and run around doing everything they can to make me comfortable.
I have always said MGTOW is not team men vs. team women. That sort of garbage is what women and feminists engage in, it’s beneath a quality man.
The truth is, honestly most men are pure garbage too. I would never want one of my female relatives to be stuck with a piece of garbage man, which is what pussy beggars, Chads, manginas and the rest are. And even any MGTOW who thinks its cute and fun to talk about pump and dump and treat women like subhuman garbage. Why would I let any man do that to one of my blood bonded female relatives?
Women have poor judgment, and that is where a quality man matters. He steps in and lets her know that these men are trash and she’s better off with a good man. And that is what my family has always been doing. My uncles and in law cousins have always been pretty good people. And when the women act up, we side with the men because it’s actually better for the women that way, and they just need to be put in line. All a woman actually needs to see is that everyone else respects the man so she should too, it’s just that simple, but Western society won’t even do that and causes so much harm.
Good men never want to actually harm women, but have superior judgment and morality far beyond what women could possibly understand. So at times women just do not understand as they should. That’s a far cry from what bad men, and that includes average men today, all do.
We are not equal, not by a longshot. There is good and bad, intelligent and stupid, etc.
My number one job is being a father,
I always tell my daughter to treat others as you would like to be treated.
Enough said. Oldschool and JD are good men. Their daughters are very fortunate to have them as fathers.
Sandman did a good video on exactly this.
But she also knows there will be consequences to her actions. What is not always talked about is that women not only get help from the family court system, but from their families. My daughter will get nothing from me if she does this.
This is key. When my sister started desiring to get back on the cauck carousel and leave her husband just a year after having a baby with him. I looked her square in the eyes and told her “Me, our parents, your brother and several other family members are more than willing to go to court as a character witness in your husbands favor and ensure you are the one stuck paying child-support…” ect, ect.
Sorry, I’m without children but I sure as f~~~ know how to handle my dumbass bitch of a sister. I’m actually sitting back and waiting for one of the feminists c~~~s in my family to accuse one of their partners of sexual harassment/abuse. Not sure how I’ll react…most likely start laughing hysterically.No Wife - No Strife
Anonymous5I don’t give a s~~~ about other unrelated men. I care more about my blood relatives and relations. While I understand female nature, that has nothing to do with my blood relations.
Besides, most of the time your cousins, nieces, etc. will have a natural bond towards you as well. I actually barely talk to any of them but they are always so happy to see me, and run around doing everything they can to make me comfortable.
I have always said MGTOW is not team men vs. team women. That sort of garbage is what women and feminists engage in, it’s beneath a quality man.
The truth is, honestly most men are pure garbage too. I would never want one of my female relatives to be stuck with a piece of garbage man, which is what pussy beggars, Chads, manginas and the rest are. And even any MGTOW who thinks its cute and fun to talk about pump and dump and treat women like subhuman garbage. Why would I let any man do that to one of my blood bonded female relatives?
Women have poor judgment, and that is where a quality man matters. He steps in and lets her know that these men are trash and she’s better off with a good man. And that is what my family has always been doing. My uncles and in law cousins have always been pretty good people. And when the women act up, we side with the men because it’s actually better for the women that way, and they just need to be put in line. All a woman actually needs to see is that everyone else respects the man so she should too, it’s just that simple, but Western society won’t even do that and causes so much harm.
Good men never want to actually harm women, but have superior judgment and morality far beyond what women could possibly understand. So at times women just do not understand as they should. That’s a far cry from what bad men, and that includes average men today, all do.
We are not equal, not by a longshot. There is good and bad, intelligent and stupid, etc.
With all due respect, your female relatives are preys, in a world of hungry, and thirsty predators.
And I’m one of those predators…
Anonymous3I don’t give a s~~~ about other unrelated men. I care more about my blood relatives and relations. While I understand female nature, that has nothing to do with my blood relations.
Besides, most of the time your cousins, nieces, etc. will have a natural bond towards you as well. I actually barely talk to any of them but they are always so happy to see me, and run around doing everything they can to make me comfortable.
I have always said MGTOW is not team men vs. team women. That sort of garbage is what women and feminists engage in, it’s beneath a quality man.
The truth is, honestly most men are pure garbage too. I would never want one of my female relatives to be stuck with a piece of garbage man, which is what pussy beggars, Chads, manginas and the rest are. And even any MGTOW who thinks its cute and fun to talk about pump and dump and treat women like subhuman garbage. Why would I let any man do that to one of my blood bonded female relatives?
Women have poor judgment, and that is where a quality man matters. He steps in and lets her know that these men are trash and she’s better off with a good man. And that is what my family has always been doing. My uncles and in law cousins have always been pretty good people. And when the women act up, we side with the men because it’s actually better for the women that way, and they just need to be put in line. All a woman actually needs to see is that everyone else respects the man so she should too, it’s just that simple, but Western society won’t even do that and causes so much harm.
Good men never want to actually harm women, but have superior judgment and morality far beyond what women could possibly understand. So at times women just do not understand as they should. That’s a far cry from what bad men, and that includes average men today, all do.
We are not equal, not by a longshot. There is good and bad, intelligent and stupid, etc.
With all due respect, your female relatives are preys, in a world of hungry, and thirsty predators.
And I’m one of those predators…
Nah, you’re a drug using pussy beggar that tries to act hard on the internet.
People like you don’t get anywhere near people like me and our families. We kill people like you.
First off, I don’t believe AWALT. I say EWALT, ENOUGH women….
Anyway, you the old saying that you don’t have to be able to outrun a bear you just have to be able to outrun the guy beside you? I try to teach my daughters just how easy it is to be in the top 10% of all women.
Just don’t act like a bitch. There you go, top 10%.
But she also knows there will be consequences to her actions.
I remember when my daughters were younger I had to yell at them to get them to do something. They asked my why I yell at them. I said “Because that’s the voice YOU picked. If you had responded to any of the other 5 times I wouldn’t have yelled. But you respond to yelling, so that’s what you’ll get until YOU decide otherwise. The choice is yours.”
Order the good wine
We kill people like you.
Just here to see how this thread gets derailed…
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First off, I don’t believe AWALT. I say EWALT, ENOUGH women….
Anyway, you the old saying that you don’t have to be able to outrun a bear you just have to be able to outrun the guy beside you? I try to teach my daughters just how easy it is to be in the top 10% of all women.
Just don’t act like a bitch. There you go, top 10%.
But she also knows there will be consequences to her actions.
I remember when my daughters were younger I had to yell at them to get them to do something. They asked my why I yell at them. I said “Because that’s the voice YOU picked. If you had responded to any of the other 5 times I wouldn’t have yelled. But you respond to yelling, so that’s what you’ll get until YOU decide otherwise. The choice is yours.”
That last part is good, i will definitely adopt this.
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Anonymous5I don’t give a s~~~ about other unrelated men. I care more about my blood relatives and relations. While I understand female nature, that has nothing to do with my blood relations.
Besides, most of the time your cousins, nieces, etc. will have a natural bond towards you as well. I actually barely talk to any of them but they are always so happy to see me, and run around doing everything they can to make me comfortable.
I have always said MGTOW is not team men vs. team women. That sort of garbage is what women and feminists engage in, it’s beneath a quality man.
The truth is, honestly most men are pure garbage too. I would never want one of my female relatives to be stuck with a piece of garbage man, which is what pussy beggars, Chads, manginas and the rest are. And even any MGTOW who thinks its cute and fun to talk about pump and dump and treat women like subhuman garbage. Why would I let any man do that to one of my blood bonded female relatives?
Women have poor judgment, and that is where a quality man matters. He steps in and lets her know that these men are trash and she’s better off with a good man. And that is what my family has always been doing. My uncles and in law cousins have always been pretty good people. And when the women act up, we side with the men because it’s actually better for the women that way, and they just need to be put in line. All a woman actually needs to see is that everyone else respects the man so she should too, it’s just that simple, but Western society won’t even do that and causes so much harm.
Good men never want to actually harm women, but have superior judgment and morality far beyond what women could possibly understand. So at times women just do not understand as they should. That’s a far cry from what bad men, and that includes average men today, all do.
We are not equal, not by a longshot. There is good and bad, intelligent and stupid, etc.
With all due respect, your female relatives are preys, in a world of hungry, and thirsty predators.
And I’m one of those predators…
Nah, you’re a drug using pussy beggar that tries to act hard on the internet.
People like you don’t get anywhere near people like me and our families. We kill people like you.
I’m not acting hard, broski.
I’m just stating facts.
You might be right, I might be a pussy beggar, but remember, I’m only 24.
I’m a young predator, but trust me, my skills are becoming better, and sharper, each and every day.
Knowledge is power!
You do your best.
There are societal controls that restrain hypergamy/awalt.
Good old fashioned parenting where kids are accountable for their actions is one.
Never permitting disrespect to be tolerated. Never. Always consequences to deal with.
A real, strong Christian faith that is not light on law and accountability and biblical diferences in roles of men and women are another.
Even without that, just consistent application of the golden rule on them so they learn consequences and that they better treat others they way they want to be treated. Consistent.
Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.
Anonymous43I don’t know how my daughters will turn out. They told me they do not want me in their lives. Now that I understand how women are programmed, I can only hope that in the future men are kind to them and that they make good choices in their lives.
Up to this point I believe my children are healthy and are doing well in school, based on you tube videos I have seen. But that’s all I have to go on, 10 seconds here, 20 seconds there. The most recent video I have seen is 6 months old.
I have to trust they will grow up and make their own decisions. I have zero input.
I don’t know how my daughters will turn out. They told me they do not want me in their lives. Now that I understand how women are programmed, I can only hope that in the future men are kind to them and that they make good choices in their lives.
Up to this point I believe my children are healthy and are doing well in school, based on you tube videos I have seen. But that’s all I have to go on, 10 seconds here, 20 seconds there. The most recent video I have seen is 6 months old.
I have to trust they will grow up and make their own decisions. I have zero input.
Sorry to hear that mate.
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This is a very good question and it does show up a weakness in the AWALT approach (I hear the sound of rifles being c~~~ed at levelled at my chest and b~~~~ as I write). AWALT is a necessary tool to combat NAWALT and so I am happy to accept it as a cornerstone of this site but the reality is that All women can be like that, all women will be like that some times but all women are not always like that all the time -the world clearly shows us this is not true.
Not every newly married man is divorced within the year, not every husband is a cuckold all the time. But every husband is at risk of divorce rape to a greater or lesser degree and every wife is open to the charms of chad and his thunderous appendage to a greater or lesser degree. How it comes out will depend on many things, the individuals, society and luck. A man needs to protect himself against our messed up society. So does a a woman actually and as a father of a girl your duty is to teach her to do this.
At some stage in any person’s life they will do badly -all men and all women will- so all women will be like that at some time in some way so yes, AWALT is in the strict sense true but its the balance of a person that counts in the end. As a parent you accept that your child will do badly some times, you work towards the balance coming out on the right side. You work with the child’s weaknesses and strengths and try your best to prepare them for life. There is evil in us all and there is good in us all. Men have their challenges too all men are like that too in their way.
Women are prone to certain weaknesses more than men, so we try to prepare our daughters against them. However we know we are fighting society here and our effort as fathers is only one influence they will be exposed to. I tell my daughters about hypergamy. I tell them to understand it, go with it (you can’t fight it and it is of itself no evil it is a driving force of natural selection) do not be fooled into the half measures of feminist hypergamy. You cannot have your cake and eat it. You can’t dedicate yourself to a career, ride the c~~~ carousel till you hit the wall, marry a filthy rich man at that exact moment, have as many children as you want, divorce rape him, become a cougar and then materialise into a well loved grandmother of many and die a fulfilled complete woman. Something has to give.
Instead seek a good man at all cost. Invest in him as your best resource. Be a good wife so that he may be a good husband, love him and work hard for you as a couple, give him as many children as the two of you can afford. Monkey branching is ill advised because if you have shown you are not loyal, how will he ever trust you enough to love you how you want to be loved?. The c~~~ carousel is a ruiner of women. I tell them these things. Will they listen? I can only do my best and hope. They are going out into a world where they are privileged and raised to feel entitled. That privilege is at some point going to come up against cold hard reality. Then they need to have the wisdom and strength to adapt.
I have several daughters. I will never write any off them off just because they are women. To do so would be (I can’t find an English word for it and must find an older Latin word) nefas (a sin that is simply so bad you cannot even utter its name). Everyone needs a mother. Unless you had a really bad mother you will know your mother, for all her weaknesses and selfishness, was the best gift nature ever gave you and probably your best defender in childhood and youth. She didn’t always have your dad’s back but nature made her fiercely on your side, probably over protective actually. Raise your daughter to be a good mother and win the game of natural selection.
Your daughter will have her faults. You have yours too. MGTOW is about standing up to a gynocentic society and refusing to be a cuck or a donkey but finding a way to turn aside from it all. It is not about misogyny. As men we know all about how unfair the daily misandry is. We don’t have to hand it out in return.
A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own
I can only hope that 20 years of no BS logic, a reason for every action, will beat out nature. Despite that I don’t hold out any hope to raise one true NAWALT out of three.
They are their own people, and they’ll win or suffer based on their decisions.
Don’t buy your little sister any Princess stuff, and help her realize that she walks among the real world.
Intelligence, effort, and her natural gifts are the way to achieve success. If you impress independence, actual self reliance without a net then you may help to give her a chance. Just don’t be surprised when you see pictures of her divorce party in 2047.
I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.
Anonymous5It’s hilarious how some will treat other peoples daughters like garbage, but when come to their, or some relatives, they want to retaliate.
No, f~~~ you!
The same way you treated other peoples daughters, is the same way yours will be treated.
Karma is a bitch!
I’m actually sitting back and waiting for one of the feminists c~~~s in my family to accuse one of their partners of sexual harassment/abuse. Not sure how I’ll react…most likely start laughing hysterically.
Then tell those partners to tell the women that they have much higher standards than them for a woman, that they are not that desperate, and so forth, and have no reason to harass them.
It’s hilarious how some will treat other peoples daughters like garbage, but when come to their, or some relatives, they want to retaliate.
No, f~~~ you!
The same way you treated other peoples daughters, is the same way yours will be treated.
Karma is a bitch!
True. Your daughters will expect to be treated how you treated women. Yeah we all have treated women well and we all have treated women not so well some times. But the better solution should be clear. Do not be a chad (because that is a huge waste of your energy). Teach your daughters to watch out for chads as they are a huge waste of energy for women too. It won’t all go how you want it to but try your best.
The game of the sexes is played form two sides. Play as fair as you can. If you are coaching a girl you will coach differently from coaching a boy. In the end the prize is to reproduce the best you can. The strategy is different on each side. (Thinking it could be the same for men and women or equal is just more gynocentric bulls~~~)
A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own
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