MGTOWs as a self fulfilling prophecy

[IggyThundersParticipant 246]

I was reading some stupid story in the British Daily Mail about men and marriage and came across one comment (out of the many dripping with misandry) in particular which really got me thinking. This ray of sunshine said, “That’s because men can’t part with their mummies and want a similar figure, grow a pair guys!!”. This comment got about 25 up arrows compared to about 6 down. Not very surprising. But I digress. Anyway, it got me thinking. She is partially right. If a little boy was raised by a ball busting shrew like this one, it would be ingrained in his psyche forever and would effect every relationship (or the lack thereof) he would have with women for the rest of his life! Bitches like this one help create the very thing they rail against. She is wrong insofar as men not parting with their mothers. I would guess they part with them to such an extent that they can wind up avoiding women altogether. But this very real psychological damage is viewed by women and society at large as some kind of a joke. “He’s got mommy issues”, “man up”, “grow a pair of b~~~~”. The only time women are accused of having “daddy issues” is if she is dating an older man. And even then its brushed off as nothing too serious. If a little girl is raised by a mentally abusive father or a man who irrationally hates women then she receives an outpouring of sympathy, therapy and an eventual book deal. If a man is raised by a man hating feminist he should just get over it.

While I love my mother dearly, she is not a big fan of men. She is not a feminist at all. Actually she is very traditional in many ways and is a Republican. Yet she has a huge problem with men. Something I was quite aware of and heard about all the time. To this very day! Just a couple of weeks ago I was commenting on something in particular about my physical appearance that I really didnt like that much and I commented that if I had the money I would seriously consider doing something about it. Instead of getting support I got a snarky comment. She snorted and said “Im glad im not a man. You bunch are so insecure. Especially at middle age” I wont even go into everything thats wrong with that statement.Thats just a small sample of what life was like under her roof. Can you imagine if a father had said that to his daughter? When my dad divorced my mother when I was ten years old I was devastated and angry at him for leaving. Yet by the time I got into my 20s I totaly understood why he split. Hell, I gave him credit for sticking it out as long as he did! Granted, he was a s~~~ty dad after he split. But still, I understood. My question is why would any woman be surprised if I (or any other man) was pretty much a MGTOW from the jump? Throughout the years I have asked myself why it was that I could have been with so many women (up until my early to mid 30s) yet not find one that I even remotely wanted to even give it a go with? Empirical evidence is why! It was a self-fulfilling prophecy! If a boy was raised by a women who is a militant feminist, or merely a women who doesnt like men, why would you blame him for being very hesitant? If you were bitten by a dog all the time while growing up wouldnt it be normal to be weary of dogs? Yet as I said, this is just seen as “Mommy issues”. You are not a “real man”. You are a joke. You have no b~~~~. Uh, no. Actually, I was psychologically damaged by a member of your sex. And as such you should give me as much respect, time and understanding as you and the whole country expect me to give to you.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Unsure if you are aware of “The Catalogue of Shaming Tactics” (can’t imagine a MGTOW who isn’t), but after reading your first paragraph, you already listed some of the most common. It is the very first post we kicked off our website with… and Barbarossa’s “The Post Feminism Man” is the first video. Your first paragraph is precisely why.

After searching for the source of the endless stream of their snide comments in everyday conversations, you can imagine my delight when I originally found them. Someone had already uncovered, collected and deconstructed them, and suddenly, it all became clear. They even went so far as to list canned replies to these empty-headed epithets, which are hurled automatically – and without any original thought to what they are saying.

It’s always interesting to hear women pretend to be authorities on “manhood” (telling men to “man up and grow a pair of b~~~~”) when even they don’t have any, and wouldn’t know the first thing about having “b~~~~”. Men who actually do “man up” threaten their very fabric of their existence. “Man up and grow a pair of b~~~~” is actually an incomplete sentence. It should be: “man up and grow a pair of b~~~~…. so I can kick you in them”.

She attacks the man at every opportunity since grade school, and then accuses him for not being one.
Women cultivate this themselves. And since when have women reacted favorably to men who actually ARE?

In everything women say, in every stupid Daily Mail article, in every useless bit of “dating advice” they yammer on about, and with every bulls~~~ attempt to get you to a “be a better man”, they don’t even WANT you to have “b~~~~”. They want you to be an insecure little girl.

I found that in a sea of garbage uttered by young women on the kind of “man with b~~~~” she is talking about. No “man with b~~~~” will call you back after you hang up on him, you stupid little child. You can get a girlfriend for that.

You bunch are so insecure

No SHE is. She has been busting her ass to RAISE him to be insecure, then gives him a list of requests (a recipe) for how to be a weakling, begging him to raise her self esteem – because she is so f~~~ing insecure. And the only way she can try and get man’s attention is to accuse him of not being one. This, in an attempt to get a “man” to run up to her and prove that he is a man with b~~~~. And the only man who would, is a complete SUCKER.

We have better and more important things to do. We don’t exist to make women feel better about themselves.

Yet she has a huge problem with men.

Of course she does. And she created that problem. The very s~~~ she asked for, is exactly what she will resent him for when he gives it to her. Women deliberately cultivate the disasters in their own personal lives – over and over and over again.

She wanted a weakling, and that’s exactly what she got.

No man worth anything would ever want to give that s~~~e a go.
She doesn’t deserves a man with b~~~~.
She deserves exactly what she asked for – and got.
… and to be ignored, by a man with b~~~~.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[VileNordParticipant 766]

I don’t blame the modern woman for hating men. In the purest sense, it is an acknowledgment that we are superior by birth. Shaming is simply a tactic to belittle a man till she feels that he is brought down to her level. Shaming is her only recourse because she realizes that she is powerless in all arenas except reproduction. Women HAVE to be manipulative in order to thrive. A man who can see through her actions is a real threat to her because he has removed most of her agency. Add to this equation a man who can satiate his lust through other means and she is rendered impotent.

“You have a tiny dick”!
“Your a disgrace to your mother”!
“You make me sick”!

Bitch, you could recite poison ad infinitum; but I have absorbed the red pill, I am immune.

Lust for comfort suffocates the soul

[IggyThundersParticipant 246]

My main point of writing this was really to posit the question, “Can being raised by a woman who is a feminist or man hater create the very thing they hate? Namely, a MGTOW?” Also, how damaging is it to a young mans sense of self, his entire manhood, to be trapped in this situation? Do they just become manginas? MGTOWs? I think this especially an important question now as so many boys are now being raised by p~~~ed off and feminist single mothers. Not to mention lesbian couples who have recentley been thrown into the mix. I think this is a much more deep and complex issue than mere female shaming tactics. Especially females who are just women out in the sexual market place. Who gives a s~~~ about them?

[VileNordParticipant 766]

Can being raised by a woman who is a feminist or man hater create the very thing they hate? Namely, a MGTOW?

I can only speculate on a question like this. I wasn’t raised by a man hating mother but I was raised by a very strict religious mother and so were my 3 siblings. My sister and I both grew up to vehemently oppose religion, one brother got married out of high school and is raising his own religious brood, and the other brother claims to still be religious but is an “evil homosexual”. If I can equate my family’s religious indoctrination to a man hating indoctrination, I would say that based on my experience it is never a sure thing how a child will turn out as an adult. I mean, Jeffery Dahmer had a terrific upbringing by all accounts and he grew up to be a serial killer. The effects of a child’s environment while he is maturing has great impact on the way he thinks as an adult, but I know from experience that once you are on your own and exposed to the real world, a person has the opportunity and capacity to change. It isn’t easy to shrug off a life-long held paradigm but it can be done. It is up to the newly formed young man to decide the way he wants to live his life.

What is a greater threat than the family bubble, is the fact that no matter where a boy goes in this society, women and girls have adopted the same mentality. If it was simply an issue you had to deal with at home, at least you could find an escape outside of the house. Here is a clip from a Q&A session by Karen Straughan at a CAFE event. She does a good job of highlighting the issues that young boys face and that there are no male only spaces left where they can seek refuge from the demonic western girl.

Lust for comfort suffocates the soul

[KeymasterKeymaster]

@iggythunders

Can being raised by a woman who is a feminist or man hater create the very thing they hate? Namely, a MGTOW?

Of course. And my reply specifically lists examples of how women cultivate the men they hate and resent.
I intentionally answered you that way and provided examples.

The (short) point being: Give her what she wants. Do what she says. Listen to her, and she will hate/resent you for it.
We see this play out over and over and over again – and so do they.

SHE: “I want a nice guy who…_____ (insert list of bulls~~~ girly s~~~ here)_____”.
YOU: “Hey, Im a nice guy!” and then you do all of that for her.
SHE: “You’re a really great guy, but you’re not my type”…. while she goes off an bangs an asshole who is NONE of that stuff she said she wanted.

That’s how you end up with the links I provided of miserable and unfulfilled hateful women who resent the s~~~ out of their husbands and boyfriends for listening to her and giving her what she wanted. On the surface, wile women may APPEAR to want that type of “man”, and all kinds of control in a relationship or marriage…she will become miserable if permitted to do so,

Timothy 2:12 “Never permit a woman to teach or have authority over a man”.

F~~~ing, no kidding.

Whether you are religious or not is irrelevant. It’s in the bible and was written centuries ago a for a reason.
DO NOT let women raise sons on their own

EVERYTHING a woman will teach you (and wants of you) is HARMFUL to you and unhealthy. Even attempting to “protect” you from rick-taking behavior is harmful and will hold you back from achieving greatness. If women raised sons who wanted to be an astronaut or a test pilot and break the sound barrier, Men would never have gotten off the ground! Let alone in to space because “its much too dangerous”. Consider the female values:

• Feelings are more important than FACTS.
• Sensitivity is more important than TRUTH.
• Commitment is more important than individuality
• Safety is more important than fun
• (unborn) children are more important than (living) people

It’s all bulls~~~. And its’BAD for you. If women got their way, they would drag you to the altar and make you sign a damaging contract where the divorce may likely drive you to RUIN — AND EVEN SUICIDE. No man should ever marry a woman who hates him enough to let him go through with it.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Soul ManParticipant 1856]

@batcave

Agreed 10,000%…

HISTORY...learn from it, memorize it, DON'T repeat it...

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